ATHLETIC ASSHOLES

[Duchess]

Like Ray, he got a slap on the wrist. I read they hit him where it hurts, they took him off the air for a week.

[Cutz]

I think part of it is cultural bias. I've seen white girls act stupid, or even uncouth, but I never saw a female be quite as crazy and daring someone to hit her until I worked in a black school. There's a difference between a dude who gets drunk and beats his wife and a woman that gets straight up in a dude's face, screaming at him, begging him to hit her, and then slap him in the face and call him a pussy. I think that was the behavior that Stephen was trying to warn against. As unpopular as my comment may be, the feminists fight for equal rights, not 'equal unless it benefits us to hide behind patriarchal values' rights.

[Duchess]

I think that was the behavior that Stephen was trying to warn against.

I think so too and I believe those women deserve what they get. I can't apologize for that. I'm not one of those people who think women never deserve that because that's not the case at all.

[Duchess]

If this is true, he's a POS.

New Pittsburgh Steelers defensive lineman Cam Thomas is being sued by a San Diego woman for allegedly giving her herpes.

In the lawsuit filed in San Diego, and obtained by TMZ, the woman named “Adrienne” claims Thomas not only gave her herpes, but also hid it from her multiple times, saying that a zipper malfunction caused the sores.

Thomas is a nose tackle who played for the San Diego Chargers last year.

Adrienne is also claiming Thomas was physically abusive to her during their relationship.

She’s suing for sexual battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, fraud through intentional concealment and negligence, and asking for unspecified damages.

Story

[Maggot]

Sometimes women keep yapping when they should just step back. It's in their nature though and once you accept that its easy to just smile and say "yes dear"

[HairOfTheDog]

I think part of it is cultural bias. I've seen white girls act stupid, or even uncouth, but I never saw a female be quite as crazy and daring someone to hit her until I worked in a black school. There's a difference between a dude who gets drunk and beats his wife and a woman that gets straight up in a dude's face, screaming at him, begging him to hit her, and then slap him in the face and call him a pussy. I think that was the behavior that Stephen was trying to warn against. As unpopular as my comment may be, the feminists fight for equal rights, not 'equal unless it benefits us to hide behind patriarchal values' rights.

I don't think that anyone's argued in favor of women hitting men here, nor that this is a "feminist" or "equal rights" issue. Not all feminists are united in their goals and values in any case.

It's a people thang, for me. Someone's up in your face, you walk away. If they won't let you walk away and they slap you, you might have to put your hands on them to restrain them or slap them back to diffuse the situation. I understand that. That's not the same as knocking out your spouse, over whom you have significant physical advantage, in the course of an argument. Knocking someone unconscious in a domestic dispute is seriously fucked up and dangerous.

Anyway, I don't know if Stephen A was saying what you inferred -- that it's really a black chick thing to get in men's faces and provoke men into physical violence. Maybe you're right and he was trying to say that those crazy bitches should step back before a brother has to haul off and hit them. Maybe. He had a hard time making a coherent point.

[Duchess]

I think any female who presents herself like that is fucked up white trash, even when she's black. I might want to get in someone's face but I would never actually do it, that would make ME look bad and I'm not going there. Noooo.

[HairOfTheDog]

I think any female who presents herself like that is fucked up white trash, even when she's black.

Say what?.....

Yeah, it's trashy behavior regardless of whether it's a female or male doing it and regardless of whether they're black, white, hispanic...

[Duchess]

Hahaha! Aww, hell. It's kinda like when I say that one doesn't have to be black to be a nigger, it's an attitude not a color, not to me anyway. That black bitch can be white trash because it's an attitude not a color.

[HairOfTheDog]

Drunken Drivin' Dribblers -- NBA



It's just come out in the media this week that Phoenix Suns forward and fan fave, P.J. Tucker, was arrested for Super Extreme DUI back in May. I had no idea there even was such a charge. Super Extreme DUI means that the person's blood alcohol level is .20 or higher, nearly 3x the legal limit. That's a car wreck waiting to happen.

Just last week, Tucker signed a three-year $16.5 million contract with the Suns after a season in which he averaged 9.4 points and 6.5 rebounds a game. He signed with the team as a free agent in August 2012 after building his skills and ramping up in Europe. The Suns reps have confirmed to the media that they knew about the charges when they finalized the new contract with Tucker.

So, what if he's convicted? Well, it's a minimum of 45 days in jail, but that sentence can be reduced if Tucker agrees to install an ignition interlock device in his car and submits himself to house arrest (an option which I suspect the NBA will require him to choose; he'd be a fool not to do so).

Last season, the NBA suspended then-Brooklyn coach Jason Kidd and Dallas player Devin Ebanks for the first two games of the regular season because of their offseason DUI convictions. If Tucker is convicted, I expect the same.

Stories:
http://hoopshabit.com/2014/07/29/p-j-tuc...enix-suns/
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nb.../13299361/

[crash]

Wow.. 0.20 is four times the legal limit here, and that's only if you have a full licence. If you hold a provisional licence, drive a truck, bus or a taxi, it's 0.00.

[Cutz]

Lol. Who the fuck is naming laws in Arizona? Super extreme DUI. What else is there? Totally Awesome Indecent Exposure? 'When a righteously hot girl is completely naked walking down the road.' Hardcore Forgery? 'When you write a fake check worth like, millions of dollars bro.'

[HairOfTheDog]

Wow.. 0.20 is four times the legal limit here, and that's only if you have a full licence. If you hold a provisional licence, drive a truck, bus or a taxi, it's 0.00.

It's beyond terribly irresponsible to get behind the wheel in that condition. I like Tucker on the court, but he's an asshole for putting his life and the lives of others at risk like that. He will probably be required to take alcohol safety courses as part of whatever sentence he is handed down (assuming he's convicted).

In the US, it's up to the states to set the legal blood alcohol level for driving, but all 50 states have now set it at .08. For commercial/professional drivers, it's typically a few points lower here too.

Last year I read that the National Transportation Safety Board recommended that states lower the limit to .05 like Australia and Europe have done (with a reported nearly 20% decline in DUI fatalities). But, I think the recommendation was largely disregarded -- despite the NTSB's claim that at .08 BAL, a driver is over 100% more likely to cause an accident than a sober driver. And, despite the fact that drunk driving fatalities have decreased by 50% since stricter DUI penalties were implemented and the legal BAL in the US was dropped from .10 to .08 (it took like 20 years of lobbying before states made the change).

I remember the head of the American Beverage Institute going off at the NTSB for trying to criminalize "perfectly legal behavior" when they recommended the .05 level. Well, yeah, lady -- everything is perfectly legal, no matter how unsafe, until the law says it's not. IIRC, it's only Canada, Iraq, and the US that are still up at .08.

Anyway, if you've got a BAL of .08, you've got a nice little buzz, pro athlete or spritzer-sippin' soccer mom. It's not too much to ask that you refrain from driving at that point.

[HairOfTheDog]

Lol. Who the fuck is naming laws in Arizona? Super extreme DUI. What else is there? Totally Awesome Indecent Exposure? 'When a righteously hot girl is completely naked walking down the road.' Hardcore Forgery? 'When you write a fake check worth like, millions of dollars bro.'

The name of the violation made me laugh too.

Some new laws currently under consideration by the Arizona State Congress:
-Extremely jacked-up jaywalking.
-Terribly sneaky tax evasion.
-Really gnarly robbery.

[Maggot]

This gives me something to think about.

[crash]

And, despite the fact that drunk driving fatalities have decreased by 50% since stricter DUI penalties were implemented and the legal BAL in the US was dropped from .10 to .08 (it took like 20 years of lobbying before states made the change).

That's fucking crazy. I have a breathalyzer that's as accurate as what the highway patrol use over here and I can tell you that at 0.100 PCA, I'm well past a 'good beer buzz' and I'm 6'4" 200 pounds on any given day.

I guess you guys just hate losin' your rights to fuck yourselves and other people up. Carry on..

[ramseycat]

You're 6'4? Well that puts a whole different spin on things.

[HairOfTheDog]

And, despite the fact that drunk driving fatalities have decreased by 50% since stricter DUI penalties were implemented and the legal BAL in the US was dropped from .10 to .08 (it took like 20 years of lobbying before states made the change).

That's fucking crazy. I have a breathalyzer that's as accurate as what the highway patrol use over here and I can tell you that at 0.100 PCA, I'm well past a 'good beer buzz' and I'm 6'4" 200 pounds on any given day.

I guess you guys just hate losin' your rights to fuck yourselves and other people up. Carry on..

It was lowered from .10 to .08 in California about 25 years ago.

I don't know if you meant all Americans, or people at Mock, or what when you referenced "you guys", but I don't personally know anybody who would be all hateful about the legal BAL driving limit being reduced to .05. Certainly the beverage industry peeps would fight it, but that's business and all.

Carrying on...

[crash]

And, despite the fact that drunk driving fatalities have decreased by 50% since stricter DUI penalties were implemented and the legal BAL in the US was dropped from .10 to .08 (it took like 20 years of lobbying before states made the change).

It was lowered from .10 to .08 in California about 25 years ago.

Ahh ok. From the '20 years of lobbying' comment in the quote ^, I took it that it was not long ago.

It was also the same comment that led to my generalisation about Americans and rights. In spite of nearly all other countries that have introduced tougher gun reforms achieving less gun related crime and all other countries that have introduced stricter blood alcohol whilst driving laws recording less DUI related incidents and deaths, the US will still lobby the fuck against common sense so they don't lose a right..

My 'carry on' was simply that; I don't have a vote in your country, what you do doesn't affect me directly. It's just an opinion..

[HairOfTheDog]

My 'carry on' was simply that; I don't have a vote in your country, what you do doesn't affect me directly. It's just an opinion..

Thanks for clarifying, crash. I understand that these are just our opinions and like reading them all, but wasn't clear to whom yours pertained. I'm with you now.

Yeah, it's frustrating to me as an American that sometimes laws that would ensure greater public safety take so long to pass or are inconsistent across states. Often, there's a strong national business lobby or group dedicated to blocking such laws and regulations.

On most issues, I support the states' rights to decide for themselves. But, when it comes to life or death for thousands of people per year, I sometimes wish there was more consistency, even if that meant more federal laws and regulations (of which we already have too many, IMO).

Universal background checks for guns in every state is a no-brainer to me. Lowering the BAL driving limit makes sense to me, too. But, I read up a little on the resistance to lowering it again and understand better why the NTSB's recommendation is getting so little traction.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) and a couple of the other "don't drink and drive" organizations -- whose national campaigns and lobbying efforts were instrumental in the reduction to .08 -- are not advocating in favor of the NTSB's .05 recommendation.

Instead, they're focused on pushing laws related to breathalyzer ignition interlock devices in autos, steering wheels that measure BAL from skin contact, etc... because rendering the vehicle inoperable to all .08 and above drivers would be more effective in reducing fatalities and injuries than hoping that drunk drivers at .08 or above get caught before it's too late and then stop driving drunk. "Preventative vs. punitive" kinda thing -- that's their mid to long term goal, I think. I understand the reasoning and imagine if they succeed in achieving that goal, they'll then focus on getting the BAL lowered to .05 or .02 (like Norway, Sweden, Poland...).

MADD's current goal and focus, however, is making it mandatory in all 50 states for convicted DUI offenders to have an ignition interlock device placed on their vehicles. If any level of intoxication is registered on the breathalyzer unit, the vehicle ignition locks. MADD has succeeded in getting that requirement implemented in 25 states, which have reportedly seen a 30% reduction in drunk driving related fatalities as a result.

I like the ignition interlock device requirement for DUI offenders -- it keeps P.J. Tucker and other super extreme drunken drivers off the road, along with keeping those who get busted for driving after overdoing it a bit from continuing to take such selfish risks.

Refs:
http://www.madd.org/drunk-driving/ignition-interlocks/
http://www.icap.org/table/BACLimitsWorldwide