MYSTERY IN THE SKY - WTF? - MH370 & MH17 & QZ8501 & More

[Midwest Spy]

I highly doubt the plane is in Pakistan.

Just too many radar facilities the plane would have had to avoided. Or, it would have to be a huge multi-national conspiracy.

Don't see it being even close to what actually happened.

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An Australian Orion aircraft has found two pieces (one circular, one rectangular) of debris in the Indian Ocean in the search area off Perth. An Australian Navy boat, HMAS Success, is said to be steaming towards the coordinates to recover the debris for possible identification.

[Duchess]

For the families, I hope this is something positive.

[crash]

I agree. If I had a loved one on that damned plane, I'd be ready to yell STFU at all the speculators out there. Some of the theories are just window licking craziness..

[Duchess]

The Malaysian Prime Minister has confirmed that satellite data shows the plane is in the Indian Ocean but the article went on to say "if confirmed" this would be a major breakthrough so obviously it hasn't been confirmed. WTF.

[HairOfTheDog]

The Malaysian Prime Minister has confirmed that satellite data shows the plane is in the Indian Ocean but the article went on to say "if confirmed" this would be a major breakthrough so obviously it hasn't been confirmed. WTF.

Just saw Prime Minister Najib Razak telling media that new analysis of satellite data by a British satellite company and accident investigators shows that the plane went down in the south Indian Ocean; remote location with no landing possibilities.

The relatives of the passengers and crew were informed via text from Malaysian Airlines of the conclusion and told that there was no possibility of survivors.

A press conference with details of the latest developments is scheduled for tomorrow.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia...?hpt=hp_t1
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Very sad for the loved ones of the passengers -- some seemed to be holding out hope that the plane had been landed and there would be survivors.

[Misguided]

Wait for confirmation,....

[HairOfTheDog]

Wait for confirmation,....

I've never thought there was more than a slim chance that the passengers were alive, no matter what happened to the plane. And, of course I'm looking forward to confirmation of more details.

The intel from your biker site about the plane being flown to Pakistan is fully unsupported by the flight data and doesn't tie in to any known details about the passengers, the pilots, the flight or anything else. It's nutty, IMO.

[Maggot]

They are all still strapped to their seats at the bottom of the ocean and all the little craps and fish are eating their faces now. But that's just my opinion.

[Misguided]

I have found out that the debris they found match some that are documented for the airline which is why they probly told the family's.
Interesting other info is that some questions about why no cell phone calls came out from passengers.It has been spoken/discussed that if they(passengers) were under water,cell phones would not work.Why no calls were received from passengers attempting to reach out prior to the crash has not been figured out yet other than the speculation that the altitude climb and then sudden dive by the pilots(if that actually did occur) could have been intended as a way to incapacitate the passengers,maybe make them pass out?
Yet,...some families said they had had gotten ringing when calling the passengers phones,...up to 4 days AFTER the crash was supposed to have occured.Maybe it's normal or legit that they would ring,I have no idea if they do or not.

[crash]

An Australian vessel Ocean Shield has reportedly now twice locked on to a pulse signal consistent with that of a black box recorder 1700km north west of Perth in the Indian Ocean, according to local news reports this evening. Apparently one more signal lock is required before an unmanned submarine drone can be deployed to map the ocean floor where the signal is originating from, some 4500m (15000ft) below sea level.

[Midwest Spy]

Theories anybody, as to how this plane ended up in the ocean 1700km northwest of Perth?

Hijacking, mechanical issue, pilot sabotage?

[Duchess]

Has the plane been found? I haven't seen much news today.

[Midwest Spy]

It would appear those in the know have their best lead yet.

[JsMom]

Theories anybody, as to how this plane ended up in the ocean 1700km northwest of Perth?

Hijacking, mechanical issue, pilot sabotage?

I feel its either a hijacking or pilot sabotage. But what do I know.

What's your take??

[HairOfTheDog]

SEARCH HONING IN? -- A RACE AGAINST TIME



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PERTH, Australia (AP) — An Australian aircraft hunting for the missing Malaysian jet picked up a new possible underwater signal on Thursday in the same area search crews previously detected sounds that were consistent with an aircraft's black boxes.

The Australian navy P-3 Orion, which has been dropping sound-locating buoys into the water near where the original sounds were heard, picked up a "possible signal" that may be from a man-made source, said Angus Houston, who is coordinating the search off Australia's west coast. "The acoustic data will require further analysis overnight," Houston said in a statement.

If confirmed, this would be the fifth underwater signal detected in the hunt.

The Australian navy has been dropping buoys from planes in a pattern near where the Ocean Shield's signals were heard. Royal Australian Navy Commodore Peter Leavy said each buoy is dangling a hydrophone listening device about 300 meters (1,000 feet) below the surface. The hope, he said, is that the buoys will help better pinpoint the signals, along with the Ocean Shield, which is slowly dragging a U.S. navy pinger locator through the water.

Meanwhile, a hunt for debris on the ocean surface intensified Thursday, with the search zone narrowed to its smallest size yet — 57,900 square kilometers (22,300 square miles), or about one-quarter the size it was a few days ago. Fourteen planes and 13 ships were taking part in the hunt for floating debris, about 2,300 kilometers (1,400 miles) northwest of Perth.

Finding the flight data and cockpit voice recorders soon is important because their locator beacons have a battery life of about a month (HOTD: experts indicate they could keep pinging up to 6 weeks), and Tuesday marked one month since Flight 370 disappeared.

But if the batteries fail before the recorders are located, finding them in such deep water — about 4,500 meters, or 15,000 feet — would be difficult, if not impossible.

A data analysis of the signals heard Saturday indicated they were distinct, man-made and pulsed consistently — indicating they are coming from an aircraft's black box, Houston said.

Full story:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10...23691.html

[Duchess]

I read a report earlier today that said the United States had to deny a story that said our government let the plane land at one of our airports over there. Wherever the hell "there" is. WTF. Is that plane at the bottom of the Indian Ocean? Are those reported pings really pings?

[Duchess]

I ask like any one of you can answer that.

[Midwest Spy]

Wouldn't it be amazing if this was some huge international conspiracy?

The lack of ANY debris is baffling to me.

[Duchess]

It's bizarre.

That ocean is massive. Bigger than I can get my head around but to lose a plane is boggling.

I also read a report that said the co-pilot tried to make a phone call and he was cut off. He was picked up by a cell tower whose range is 7000 feet up. That plane was flying VERY low.