SS Vs Welfare . . . .

[Midwest Spy]

Trim your quotes.










And your bush!!

[Maggot]

Well thanks cars for making that font bigger.

[Carsman]

Well thanks cars for making that font bigger.

The Large font thingie was applied only to the previous posters quote line: "If and when society blocks that avenue, they will steal."
And the whole friggin quote blew up!

[Blindgreed1]

Yes most likely, but then they go to jail, where they still get 3 squares a day, & a roof over their head, & medical & dental, all for free. It will remain a fairy tail, until "we the people" make it stop.

This is a different topic all together, but usually they don't go to jail unless they're repeat offenders. Right now they're too lazy to work OR steal.

[Blindgreed1]

This just in:

The fast-food worker movement for higher pay is about to go global.
Workers from dozens of countries on six continents are joining the push for higher pay and worker rights, it was announced Wednesday at a press conference outside a McDonald's restaurant in Midtown Manhattan by Fast Food Forward, which represents U.S. fast-food workers.

The group announced nationwide strike plans for May 15 -- a date which mirrors the $15 per hour pay they are demanding. On that same date, workers from dozens of countries on six continents will hold protests at McDonald's, Burger King and KFC outlets. It is not known how many workers will strike, but thousands of the nation's estimated 4 million fast-food workers are expected to take part in the one-day strike.

"We've gone global," said Ashley Cathey, a McDonald's worker from Memphis, Tenn., who makes $7.75 an hour after six years on the job. "Our fight has inspired workers around the world to come together."

For the fast-food industry, this seems to be the issue that just won't go away. It's expected to be front-and-center later this month when McDonald's hosts it annual shareholders meeting on May 22, in Oak Brook, Ill. While not specifically addressing fast-food workers, President Obama has called on Congress to raise the national minimum wage from $7.25 to $10.10 an hour, and earlier this year signed an executive order to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 for individuals working on new federal service contracts.

Earlier this week, workers and union leaders from dozens of countries met for the first global meeting of fast-food workers, organized by the International Union of Food, Agricultural, Hotel, Restaurant, Catering, Tobacco and Allied Workers' Associations, a federation comprised of 396 trade union in 126 countries representing 12 million workers.

In the U.S. strikes are expected to include the first walkouts in Philadelphia, Sacramento, Miami and Orlando. Outside the U.S., the protests are expected to include protests in Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe, South America and Central America.

Some of the foreign protesters say they are taking action specifically in sympathy with U.S. workers. Louise Marie Rantzau, who is a McDonald's worker in Denmark, says she makes $21 an hour. She says she was surprised to hear U.S. workers have to fight so hard to make $15 an hour, and she says is "committed" to supporting their cause.

[Duchess]

Twenty one dollars an hour. That's incredible to me.

[crash]

Incredibly good or bad?

[Duchess]

I think it's a great deal of money to be paid for a job that doesn't really require an education. There are many laborers who don't make that kind of wage, it's far less and they do a hell of a lot more than ask if you want fries with that.

[crash]

I guess it's all relevant. I'm guessing that's a € figure adjusted to $A. So it's probably more like € 14/hr. A US gallon of gas would cost them € 6.10.

[BlueTiki]

hah: What makes you think they'd consider working if it was $10.10/hr? If they had jobs, they'd soon lose their foodstamps and section 8 housing. Then who will take care of the 4 kids and the one on the way? $10.10/hr wouldn't motivate those slobs to work. Don't kid yourself.

Amen!

And Cars . . . why stop at raising the minimum wage?

Let's give all of these welfare cunts a "premium" of, let's say, an additional $2.00 an hour for every kid she has, too.

Same for the deadbeat dads who sire the little bastards.

Why should the spawn suffer?

I love paying for others life-choices . . . be it through taxes or increased consumer costs!

[Blindgreed1]

hah: What makes you think they'd consider working if it was $10.10/hr? If they had jobs, they'd soon lose their foodstamps and section 8 housing. Then who will take care of the 4 kids and the one on the way? $10.10/hr wouldn't motivate those slobs to work. Don't kid yourself.

Amen!

And Cars . . . why stop at raising the minimum wage?

Let's give all of these welfare cunts a "premium" of, let's say, an additional $2.00 an hour for every kid she has, too.

Same for the deadbeat dads or moms who sire the little bastards.

Why should the spawn suffer?

I love paying for others life-choices . . . be it through taxes or increased consumer costs!

Just made a minor adjustment there. My 2 kids have a deadbeat mom. One's 26 and in college now and the other is learning to drive. Not a penny was ever received from their mother. I'm not alone. There are plenty of dads out there raising their kids on their own. The courts don't go after deadbeat moms, only dads.

[BlueTiki]

Just made a minor adjustment there. My 2 kids have a deadbeat mom.

My bad.

Gender bias obviously overran my thought process.

Thanks for the catch.

[Blindgreed1]

Just made a minor adjustment there. My 2 kids have a deadbeat mom.

My bad.

Gender bias obviously overran my thought process.

Thanks for the catch.

My point is, regardless of the plumbiung you're born with, raise your fucking kids assholes!

[HairOfTheDog]

If the federal minimum wage was raised just to coincide with inflation since its real value peaked in the late 60s, it would be around $10.50 per hour.

The minimum wage not only affects fast food workers (who I personally don't have any reason to look down upon, they work), but also restaurant servers and maids (before tips), carwash workers, and a host of other workers who are typically not college graduates. The minimum wage is also the baseline used by some businesses to set higher-than-minimum wage rates for jobs that don't require a college education but do require some experience and people-skills.

I understand that there are lazy, irresponsible people who will seek welfare over employment no matter what and who can't or won't take care of their kids -- that's an obvious given and not arguable. What I don't really understand is using that subset of the population as a reason not to increase the minimum wage for the subset of the population which isn't too entitled or lazy to work for a living, no matter what the job.

For those who oppose the increase, do you think...

-the federal minimum wage should be raised, just not by $3 per hour?

-the federal minimum wage should continue to result in a below poverty-level income for those who choose to work?

- the federal minimum wage should be abolished and minimum wage should instead be set solely by the states, or counties (or perhaps even industries)?

As it stands, twenty states already establish their own minimum wages which exceed the fed's. (San Francisco county has its own at $10.55, which exceeds the state's minimum of $9.00 -- Washington state is already at $9.32 with Seattle pushing for $15.00 over the next few years). Is there any reason why each state shouldn't be able to determine its own minimum wage without the imposition of a federal minimum requirement?

[Duchess]

I'm not opposed to people making a decent wage, I respect a good work ethic. It's just that I've always viewed a job at Mickey D's as an after school job for a kid not a job for those raising a family.

[cannongal]

I think maybe fast food workers (and some other jobs like Walmart/convenience stores) want the wages increased because they can't get a full 40 hour week.

Most places like that will only give 25 to 30 hour weeks so they don't have to provide benefits.

I wonder if the workers were allowed to get a 40 hour paycheck, would it help them at all?

[HairOfTheDog]

I'm not opposed to people making a decent wage, I respect a good work ethic. It's just that I've always viewed a job at Mickey D's as an after school job for a kid not a job for those raising a family.

That view holds true for roughly half of workers earning at or less than the minimum wage; about 50% of them are between the ages of 16 and 24.

Roughly 3.6 million Americans were paid $7.25 an hour or less in 2012, according to the Labor Department, representing 4.7% of hourly workers.

Women are twice as likely as men to earn the minimum wage, according to government data.

^ Those are numbers included in February's non-partisan Congressional Budget Office report which analyzed and predicted the impacts of an increase in federal minimum wage.

I'm struggling with the cost of mandatory health care for over 20 employees (federally, it's 50 employees), new mandatory overtime premium laws that became effective Jan 1^st in the state, mandatory earned/sick pay, and a couple of other San Francisco-specific labor laws that make it very hard to remain profitable because my client base is largely on a fixed income and can't bear a price increase that would help to significantly cover the ever-increasing cost of labor/service.

I'm trying to take those unique county-specific challenges out of the equation when looking at the broader federal minimum wage debate. I don't have any answers, but, as usual, plenty of questions to which the answers are starkly different depending on the politics of the economic analysts answering them.

The Congressional Budget Office's report is reportedly nonpartisan. I found this chart interesting; a visual depiction of the pros and cons of two suggested minimum wage adjustments.



Highlights from the congressional budget report were published in the WSJ:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10...1355442502