The Crying Game / TRANSGENDER DISCUSSION

[Clang McFly]

Yeah what Duchess said.Youtube makeup tutorials.They have drag makeup tutorials as well.

I took it for granted that Clang would know I was referring to drag makeup tutorials. It wouldn't do any good to give him tips on how females do it. It's quite different.

How different? I'd probably prefer to do it like females. Most drag queens makeup looks ridiculous and they use too much.

[Clang McFly]

Yeah what Duchess said.Youtube makeup tutorials.They have drag makeup tutorials as well.

Clang I don't know what you look like, but as long as you feel happy while you're dressed and made up as a woman, than that's all that matters. Whether you look attractive or not to others is strictly their problem, not yours.

Thanks IB.

[Clang McFly]

I don't need to see you in drag, I've seen you as a man. There is no make up or clothing in the world that is going to make you look anything other than a fat guy in drag. It would be like putting a dress and lip stick on John Goodman. You're not some skinny Filipino guy that can pull it off.

John Travolta pulls it off pretty well in Hairspray and I look better than that. And as for clothing there is always corsets, girdles, body shapers, panties with hip and butt pads to enhance what I don't have.

[sally]

Can you sing and dance, Clang? Would you be able to do a Drag show?

I tricked my husband into going to one when we were in Key West. At first he was all grumpy and said he's not walking a mile from our hotel room to a damn gay bar, but I got him to drink shots at various bars along the way and we ended up there. Once he was there he was so drunk I couldn't get him to leave, he even posed for pictures with them.

[Clang McFly]

Can you sing and dance, Clang? Would you be able to do a Drag show?

I tricked my husband into going to one when we were in Key West. At first he was all grumpy and said he's not walking a mile from our hotel room to a damn gay bar, but I got him to drink shots at various bars along the way and we ended up there. Once he was there he was so drunk I couldn't get him to leave, he even posed for pictures with them.

Sing yes(I sing every week in the Church choir), dance no. I was born with 2 left feet(not literally).

[Carsman]

Several years ago, I really didn't want to go, but my better half talked me into going to a female impersonator show in Vegas. Cher, Madonna, Dolly, Liza, and others, I had to keep reminding myself, these are guys, they were that good. They were all males, except for one, who was female, who I thought was a male anyway. They all took their tops off in the end, and the female had hooters. But now a days, you never know, some impersonators get MM hooters, so.

[Duchess]

How different? I'd probably prefer to do it like females. Most drag queens makeup looks ridiculous and they use too much.

Maybe I should have clarified different as being compared to how I do it, not every woman in general. I only use mascara, liner & gloss, many women use foundation, eyeshadow, concealer and lipstick as well as a brow pencil. There may come a time when I need all that but for now I can get away with only using a couple things.

In all seriousness, Clang, if I were closer I'd give you a hand and be really happy to do so.

[Cutz]

The only person they have to please is themselves. Nobody else gets a say.

You make your own choices, but in a relationship the other person gets a say. If you entered a marriage and then found out your partner was hiding billions in debt from you the entire time, would you feel fine and dandy about it? They didn't want to tell you about it because they were afraid they'd lose you... but you're already married, now their fraud is your responsibility. Should you have gotten a say somewhere along the dating line about knowing this info? Hell yeah.

Part of my issue with sex change operations is that you're not installing a womb, or a functioning prostate, etc. Being incapable of reproduction greatly affects the other person in the relationship. I got no problem with cross dressing or being attracted to the same gender, and I can accept transgendered people despite my personal bias, but as it affects another person? You've got no right to hide it.

[Cutz]

Can you sing and dance, Clang? Would you be able to do a Drag show?

I tricked my husband into going to one when we were in Key West. At first he was all grumpy and said he's not walking a mile from our hotel room to a damn gay bar, but I got him to drink shots at various bars along the way and we ended up there. Once he was there he was so drunk I couldn't get him to leave, he even posed for pictures with them.

My friend in college used to do Drag shows. I've seen several. Actually sober.

In all seriousness, Clang, if I were closer I'd give you a hand and be really happy to do so.

[Duchess]

Not that kind of hand!

[Clang McFly]

Ew. Gross. Duchess is old enough to be my great grandmother. Seriously though, thanks Duchess, it's the thought that counts.

[Duchess]

You're welcome, young man.

[sally]

How different? I'd probably prefer to do it like females. Most drag queens makeup looks ridiculous and they use too much.

You can't do it like a female because you're not a female. There is nothing feminine about your features. A little lip gloss and some mascara isn't going to do it. You'd have to use a ton of makeup just to resemble an ugly woman.

[Blindgreed1]

How different? I'd probably prefer to do it like females. Most drag queens makeup looks ridiculous and they use too much.

You can't do it like a female because you're not a female. There is nothing feminine about your looks. A little lip gloss and some mascara isn't going to do it. You'd have to use a ton of makeup just to resemble an ugly woman.

Such a sweetheart.

[sally]

Actually BG would probably make the best looking woman out of all the guys here.

[Blindgreed1]

Actually BG would probably make the best looking woman out of all the guys here.

[Blindgreed1]

[Duchess]

I remember that crazy fuck.

[sally]

Do you tuck, Clang?

The good news is you don't have to bother abducting a fat girl to make a skin suit out of, you've got more than enough.

[IroningBroad]

The only person they have to please is themselves. Nobody else gets a say.

You make your own choices, but in a relationship the other person gets a say. If you entered a marriage and then found out your partner was hiding billions in debt from you the entire time, would you feel fine and dandy about it? They didn't want to tell you about it because they were afraid they'd lose you... but you're already married, now their fraud is your responsibility. Should you have gotten a say somewhere along the dating line about knowing this info? Hell yeah.

Part of my issue with sex change operations is that you're not installing a womb, or a functioning prostate, etc. Being incapable of reproduction greatly affects the other person in the relationship. I got no problem with cross dressing or being attracted to the same gender, and I can accept transgendered people despite my personal bias, but as it affects another person? You've got no right to hide it.

Thanks Dr.Phil.