WANNA HAVE SOME FUN?

[HairOfTheDog]

You seem to love picking and fighting on the internet Donovan -- with your guy frienemies and with female posters alike -- and seem to be virtually spatting, breaking up or making up with someone more than most.

So, I kinda figured you'd be the same in person, especially when the behavior modification again failed you. But, maybe the internet just lets you express a different side of your personality.

Anyway, I remember you posted that you were attracted to your now-ex because she was edgier and more fiery than the school marms and other exes you claim to have driven over the edge, or something to that effect. So, I won't call your ex names or bag on her because I don't know what really went down or how she perceives it and three years is nothing to sneeze at. Plus, I don't like people bagging on my loved ones, current or ex.

I do sincerely hope that you and your son and she and her grandson and the Spaniel all do alright with the adjustment and that things work out for the best for everyone. Ending serious long-term relationships isn't easy.

(That's as sappy as I'm gonna get for a while, promise.)

[aussiefriend]

I always think people who give others another chance are generous. I'm not generous. The only chance I give anyone is the one they are enjoying right now. If you fuck that up, I'm done.

Yes that is right, you get one chance, and you are lucky to have that. Having that attitude and mindset gives you a personal power. Mine is, don't even THINK of disagreeing with me, let alone speak it and pulling any stunt will see you out the door so fast it will make your head spin.

[aussiefriend]

You seem to love picking and fighting on the internet Donovan -- with your guy frienemies and with female posters alike -- and seem to be virtually spatting, breaking up or making up with someone more than most.

No he's not. Don't project your shit onto him. His logic and argument regarding his decision for ending the relationship made sense, whereas yours sounded like something that was heading for Forensic Files. Own it.

[FAHQTOO]

she was jealous of YOU bitches.

Did you let her read Mock with you or are you talking about someplace else?

We would have welcomed her if she had joined.

Message boards in general and specifically any WOTI messageboards. She is insanely jealous and even of people who live hundreds or thousands of miles away that I'll never meet ouside the internet. She was particularly jealous of Ilyanna who lives in Germany for fuck sake. I never told her about Mock. God forbid she knew I was chatting about poop and Jedi mind tricks with this many actual attractive women in one place?

That, to me, goes beyond jealousy. A little bit of jealousy is kind of nice...insane jealousy is a deal breaker. I don't have the time or desire to walk around on eggshells to make sure my partner is feeling secure. Fuck that!

[HairOfTheDog]

You seem to love picking and fighting on the internet Donovan -- with your guy frienemies and with female posters alike -- and seem to be virtually spatting, breaking up or making up with someone more than most.

No he's not. Don't project your shit onto him. His logic and argument regarding his decision for ending the relationship made sense, whereas yours sounded like something that was heading for Forensic Files. Own it.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about aussie. I don't have internet frienemies or drama, and I didn't question Donovan's rationale for ending the relationship. Go back and read.

You keep presenting yourself as some expert on relationships, continue to label and name-call, and offer your diagnosis of a woman you've never met. That's fine. It's not my style. I don't care that it's yours or whether you own it or not.

I prefer to talk straight to Donovan. I see a difference in his on-line behavior and statements vs. what he's told us about this personal situation. That's my observation, which isn't a criticism. And, I wish him and the others involved the best with a difficult situation. That's what I said and I have no problem owning it, regardless of how or why the relationship ended.

Maybe you'll get lucky and Donovan will latch on to your "she's a psycho bitch and she put your life and the life of your child in jeopardy!" drama and he'll wanna rag and cry on your shoulder, aussie. That's fine too.

[Clang McFly]

I forgive and forgive and forgive. People make mistakes. However, once the switch is flipped and I'm done forgiving, that's it. If I get to the point where I don't care anymore, there's no going back. When I'm done I'm done. The funny thing is you can fuck up big a few times and I'll forgive you. But then ypu can do something really stupid and minor but that will be the last straw. I never know what it will be or when it will happen but when it does, you no longer matter to me.

Reminds me of my Mom. God rest her soul. Mothers forgive, but never forget. Happy belated Mothers' Day,rams(and Mock ladies).

[ramseycat]

Thank you Clang!

[Duchess]

What does WOTI mean? The Urban Dictionary says, "warm on the inside". Hahaha!

[username]

Nah, the argument was one she started over something stupid and then escalated when I refused to fight.

^^This is what I don't get. To you, it was a stupid argument but to her clearly it wasn't or she wouldn't have gotten to the point of wanting to kick you out of the car 800 miles from home.

Some people think that ANY disagreement with them is "stupid". My husband exhibits that some times and it's a freaking miracle we're still together all these years later (although I've been pissed enough at him a few times to move to a hotel for a few days so I could calm down enough not to cut his dick off in the middle of the night or something similar).

Maybe is WASN'T a stupid argument she was picking. Maybe you just viewed it as such and she realized you were dismissing her point of view and she had to kick you out as the result of sheer frustration at your pig-headedness. She may have felt you were being condescending, totally dismissing her feelings/thoughts and couldn't stand the sight of your fat head a moment longer.

You have to explain this supposed "stupid fight" she "picked" before I can decide whether she was being a twat or you were being an insensitive prick and deserved to have your ass thrown to the curb.

[HairOfTheDog]

Hey now, user. There's no room here for adult discussion and fair-mindedness.

Aussie has proclaimed that Donovan was in love with a weird, abusive, psycho and that's that. He is an innocent victim who's lucky he made it out alive!!

To his credit, Donovan seems to be handling his own break-up more maturely and less spastically than aussie is attempting to handle his break-up for him.

Anyway, based only on internet interactions and observations, Donovan doesn't appear the least bit averse to conflict, nor does he seem like someone who gets trampled on by women (or men).

Personally, I think your questions are reasonable ones to ask if you wanna fairly weigh in on most any break-up story, Donovan's included.

[aussiefriend]

HoTD, do you know what you are? An exaggerator. You exaggerate what I say to fit your hypothesis. It's a dangerous mix of ridiculousness and self righteous uninformed ignorance. If she left him 800 miles stranded with a child. That is not a stroll in the park with the dog. It's a friggin' long way. You need to get with the program soldier, because your poor safety standards may get you shot in the foot.

[Jimbone]

[HairOfTheDog]

Uh huh, aussie. I'm an exaggerator.

You're either lying, have a very poor memory, or in denial. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's one of the latter two.

It only takes a couple of minutes to read what you wrote or repost it, aussie. I'll even help you. Here you go.

And, she's off........

Donovan, you got a lucky escape, what if she was a psycho bitch that was a stalker or something, at the very least she is weird and abusive.

aussie on the defensive -- in response to a polite question and alternate viewpoint...

You would think that someone who was the forum moderator would show a little more insight and intelligence into dysfunctional behaviour rather than blindly mouthing off about psychotic rants as being acceptable in a relationship.

aussie the dramatic psychic...

The only thing that I am mad with Donovan about is that he took her back. She cried and manipulated him and he fell for it. Hearing the story I could see what a manipulative mad cow she was and it's like "oh God here come the waterworks". My sister took her ex back after he pulled a knife on her! I was hysterical, literally. I broke down at work and had to go home, it was embarrassing. Giving a psycho a second chance when you have had a lucky escape could cost you your life.

aussie the badass...

...you get one chance, and you are lucky to have that. Having that attitude and mindset gives you a personal power. Mine is, don't even THINK of disagreeing with me, let alone speak it and pulling any stunt will see you out the door so fast it will make your head spin.

You posted ^ those exaggerated, dramatic, over-reactions to Donovan's original post and to my opinion, which happens to differ from yours. (I posted the last quote because you've proven that one is true, sadly.)

My opinion hasn't changed. I don't believe that anyone who leaves a spouse (and teenager) during a heated conflict must be a psycho. He or she might be, but I don't believe that's a given.

I think sometimes it's crazier not to create distance and not to make time to calm down. I don't know the details on this one. So, unlike you, I'm not sucking up to anyone or degrading anyone in the process of assuming that I do. Why you let that bother you so deeply is your problem. This isn't a contest. Just a discussion.

[aussiefriend]

It's sadly so obvious that you don't have kids. What about if it was an animal? Does that make a difference to you? I don't know what you are doing quoting or rather out of context so misquoting me. I don't mind a debate even if it gets heated but I refuse to engage in ridiculous nonsense that even those who are born with english as their first language cannot decipher.

[HairOfTheDog]

It's sadly so obvious that you don't have kids. What about if it was an animal? Does that make a difference to you? I don't know what you are doing quoting or rather out of context so misquoting me. I don't mind a debate even if it gets heated but I refuse to engage in ridiculous nonsense that even those who are born with english as their first language cannot decipher.

Those words that you cannot decipher are your own exact words. You apparently forgot them when you said my paraphrasing was an "exaggeration".

The context is right upthread; it's not been missed.

You're truly nutty, aussie. Even when you're DIRECTLY quoted and the parts in question are highlighted for you, you can't own what you just said.

Anyway, there's no debate with you. Even a neutral question sets you off and you become all-knowing and highly emotional, no logic.

It's funny, which I can appreciate for what it is.

[username]

Aussie was married to and divorced a gay guy. I think that right there precludes her from being an expert in relationship advice. You can't really fuck up more than that in my book.

[ZEROSPHERES]

That's why I believe in sex before marriage. Imagine Aussie being handed a strap-on and her groom asking her to wear it that night after their wedding ceremony. He then gives her instructions on the best positions for his greatest pleasure while Donna Summer's disco hit "Hot Stuff" plays filling the room with eroticism. All the while he is enticing her by making up his own lyrics. This all could have been avoided with some pre-marital sex.

[ZEROSPHERES]

Years later as the divorce is imminent, he nostalgically finds himself drawn back to that room and that night, other lyrics circling in his head. "looking for a lover who won't blow my cover, she's so hard to find" and a tear wells up in his eye and finds its way down his cheek.

[aussiefriend]

Yes HoTD, my own words out of context and misquoting me HoTD. Let's finish the sentence and get real. You are being manipulative. The fact that you are distorting the truth so much, I cannot understand what on Earth you are on about. That is what I cannot "decipher".

[HairOfTheDog]

Sure thing, aussie.

Those are your exact words in the context of what's being discussed in this thread.

You can't manipulate the truth out of that, even if you try to redefine "misquoting" and "out of context".

I don't even know why you keep trying. You're entitled to your opinions and your characterizations, reflected in your words. And, I get to have mine or remain undecided...still not a contest.