THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY

[Duchess]

Hippo crip

Says the trump supporter. *spits* Bitch, please.

[BigMark]

The Orange idiot...


Our current immigration system has been broken for far too long. We need comprehensive immigration reform, not just piecemeal efforts.

We cannot continue to allow people to enter the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. The American people are a welcoming and generous people, but those who enter our country's borders illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of the law. We need to secure our borders, and support additional personnel, infrastructure, and technology on the border and at our ports of entry. We need additional Customs and Border Protection agents equipped with better technology and real-time intelligence. We need to dismantle human smuggling organizations, combating the crime associated with this trade.

[Fry Guy]

The Orange idiot...


Our current immigration system has been broken for far too long. We need comprehensive immigration reform, not just piecemeal efforts.

We cannot continue to allow people to enter the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. The American people are a welcoming and generous people, but those who enter our country's borders illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of the law. We need to secure our borders, and support additional personnel, infrastructure, and technology on the border and at our ports of entry. We need additional Customs and Border Protection agents equipped with better technology and real-time intelligence. We need to dismantle human smuggling organizations, combating the crime associated with this trade.

Yup

[Maggot]

The Orange idiot...


Our current immigration system has been broken for far too long. We need comprehensive immigration reform, not just piecemeal efforts.

We cannot continue to allow people to enter the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. The American people are a welcoming and generous people, but those who enter our country's borders illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of the law. We need to secure our borders, and support additional personnel, infrastructure, and technology on the border and at our ports of entry. We need additional Customs and Border Protection agents equipped with better technology and real-time intelligence. We need to dismantle human smuggling organizations, combating the crime associated with this trade.

That sounds like what Obama said in 2006

[Clang McFly]

The Orange idiot...


Our current immigration system has been broken for far too long. We need comprehensive immigration reform, not just piecemeal efforts.

We cannot continue to allow people to enter the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. The American people are a welcoming and generous people, but those who enter our country's borders illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of the law. We need to secure our borders, and support additional personnel, infrastructure, and technology on the border and at our ports of entry. We need additional Customs and Border Protection agents equipped with better technology and real-time intelligence. We need to dismantle human smuggling organizations, combating the crime associated with this trade.

That sounds like what Obama said in 2006

Agreed. That sounds way too intelligent and coherent for Trump.

[BigMark]

it was a test of the national emergency system

[Rootilda]

He was offered $25B last year for all of that (minus 2K miles of wall) which he turned down because his hardcore religious right didn't want the DACA deal that was included.

TWENTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS.

He can sit on a tack.

[Duchess]

Today would be a good day to indict Jr.

[Rootilda]

Trump thinks he's living in a Mad Max movie.

[Duchess]

Jesus Christ.

A week or so ago he said his generals "are better looking than Tom Cruise and stronger too."  Whatta dufus.

[Rootilda]

I'm sure some asshole (FryGuy) will say some shit like "they knew what they were signing up for."  Fuck you.

[MirahM]

The Orange idiot...


Our current immigration system has been broken for far too long. We need comprehensive immigration reform, not just piecemeal efforts.

We cannot continue to allow people to enter the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. The American people are a welcoming and generous people, but those who enter our country's borders illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of the law. We need to secure our borders, and support additional personnel, infrastructure, and technology on the border and at our ports of entry. We need additional Customs and Border Protection agents equipped with better technology and real-time intelligence. We need to dismantle human smuggling organizations, combating the crime associated with this trade.

Very well said.

And what is the solution to assylum seekers-those coming across legally?

I don't think Mexico and South and Central America are our only problems with illegal immigration happening. So much money is being poured into a wall-but what is being done for the system?
Plus there was money being spent on the private prisions to keep these people. 
What is being done at airports? Are we ignoring other threats? Are we being prejudicial and allowing some in illegally even, looking the other way while blocking others completely?

Also I don't agree with bulldozing through some natural butterfly habitat for this wall-wtf.

[Duchess]

Also I don't agree with bulldozing through some natural butterfly habitat for this wall-wtf.

How 'bout churches?

[Fry Guy]

Butterflies...think of the butterflies

[pyropappy]

My biggest problem with the Cheeto in chief is (just like Clinton) he has no core principles. It is a problem shared by the vast majority in DC. In my misspent youth I was a huge fan of The National Lampoon; their editor, P. J. O'Rourke, identified the problem years ago. 

When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.

Washington is the problem, I have seen it first hand. They will never voluntarily give up power; it is past time we hold a an Article 5 Convention of States.

[Duchess]

trump - "Critics say a wall is a medieval kind of defense but some medieval things are still awesome. Like wheels. There were wheels in medieval times and there are also wheels now. So if wheels remain awesome and existent, why not walls"

[Maggot]

I thought it was karma when Trump went to the border and just a few towns over they found 21 bodies from the drug war going on. Nothing on the news though because there are no drug dealers fighting  near the border right? 

[HairOfTheDog]

I thought it was karma when Trump went to the border and just a few towns over they found 21 bodies from the drug war going on. Nothing on the news though because there are no drug dealers fighting  near the border right? 

I read about it in the news Mags.  The bodies were found in a cartel-occupied town in Mexico, 50 miles from the Texas border.  Mexican authorities believe the massacre was the result of a bitter gang war.  

The cartels don't send drugs over in backpacks with people trying to sneak into the U.S. or apply for asylum on foot, of course.  They get drugs into the U.S. primarily through official ports of entry.  It's not an 'immigration' problem.  It's a drug smuggling problem.

So, The Wall wouldn't put a dent in the drug smuggling problem.  But, better detection technology/processes and programs to reduce the demand for the drugs in the U.S. would address drug smuggling across the border.

[HairOfTheDog]

I don't find The Wall itself  to be "immoral".  It's just inefficient and illogical as Trump described it during his campaign.  Since he was elected, he's described it differently and in conflicting terms whenever he pushes immigration back to the forefront and depending on who he's trying to influence.  

It makes much more sense to repair, improve, and extend border fencing where it's needed/effective as a deterrent; invest in better surveillance and detection technology;  increase the number of border control against and provide ongoing training, etc...

There's no dispute about the need for investment/enhancement in border security.  Both parties in Congress agree and have funded it year to year.  

And, for years and years, both parties have also been working to get a comprehensive immigration reform bill passed, to address the issue of people entering illegally and improve the process for people coming over legally.  McConnell wouldn't take most bi-partisan bills to vote on the Senate floor when Obama was President.  And, now, he won't push forward on Senate votes unless he knows Trump will support the outcomes.

Congress's job is not to work for or against any specific President. But, that's exactly what's been happening over the last 8 years, in my opinion.  Congress is obliged to work/legislate for the people, with equal and separate powers as the Executive.   I really hope our elected Congressional representatives are pulled back to doing what they're supposed to do now that there's a split Congress.

[Fry Guy]

I thought it was karma when Trump went to the border and just a few towns over they found 21 bodies from the drug war going on. Nothing on the news though because there are no drug dealers fighting  near the border right? 

I read about it in the news Mags.  The bodies were found in a cartel-occupied town in Mexico, 50 miles from the Texas border.  Mexican authorities believe the massacre was the result of a bitter gang war.  

The cartels don't send drugs over in backpacks with people trying to sneak into the U.S. or apply for asylum on foot, of course.  They get them into the U.S. primarily through official ports of entry.  It's not an 'immigration' problem.  It's a drug smuggling problem.

So, The Wall wouldn't put a dent in the drug smuggling problem.  But, better detection technology/processes and programs to reduce the demand for the drugs in the U.S. would address illegal drug smuggling across the border.

The truth is, of course, you have not the slightest idea whether or not the drugs that are not discovered, tracked, seized and otherwise accounted for. Like not in the slightest. You can say for absolute certainty where drugs that have been seized and discovered came from and perhaps if you tracked them, where they came from. Speculating about where drugs you have not discovered or tracked is actually JUST speculation. You CAN appeal to authority if you like but it will neither deny that point and will not strengthen your premise.

Any premise built on such a premise are more and more speculative as they have been built on speculative base.

This is why people should laugh in your face over comments like "So, The Wall wouldn't put a dent in the drug smuggling problem.  But, better detection technology/processes and programs to reduce the demand for the drugs in the U.S. would address illegal drug smuggling across the border."