Posts: 3,206
Threads: 115
Joined: Feb 2009
(02-13-2019, 06:27 AM)Duchess Wrote: (02-12-2019, 08:38 PM)Maggot Wrote: Trump will not build a "wall" in that I can be sure but he might build a "barrier" which would be fine
That's ^^^^^^^^ called a walk back, folks.
Bullshit!
It would be dingenuous at the very least to call it a walk back.
Try following this. Early in his campaigning Trump identified illegal immigration across the unprotected southern border as a huge issue.
In order to reduce the numbers coming in he wanted to do a number of things to disincentivise illegal immigrants coming in. But he also recognised that without a physical impediment to just walking across an unprotected barrier, none of that matters....at all.
So he had to sell it to the people who would support it (this was not a message for folks like you, Duchess). He spoke in visuals of a wall.
Some people respond well to statistics, some to metaphors, some to theories, and some to visuals.
But no one has been ignorant of the fact that approximately 18 fucking months ago he had announced that given the ability of agents not to see through the wall and THEIR concerns that they could get blindsided by people throwing things over the wall at them and that drugs could be thrown over both by people the agents could not see coming, a concrete wall was not going to work and that a wall or barriers with gaps between to allow agents to see would be better.
Trump supporters accepted that reasoning and he moved on acknowledging for good reason that this would be what would get built.
There is no back tracking or walking back.
At this stage for ANY democrat to pretend that they are only opposing Trump's concrete wall in the funding or pretending they think that is where the money going is retarded.
What he is building and requesting money for is clear. The reasons for it are clear and have not changed. He has been actively saying this and has clarified this a billion times in the last 18 months and anyone pretending he is walking anything back after having been clear for this time is being dishonesty. That is completely on them and not Trump
Posts: 3,797
Threads: 47
Joined: Apr 2018
This happened at a cafe called Blue's Egg in Wisconsin. Apparently the blue part of the name set this guy off. And yeah, I'm gonna blame Trump for this shit.
Sally, the flaming asshole of MockForums
Posts: 3,206
Threads: 115
Joined: Feb 2009
(02-13-2019, 07:31 PM)Rootilda Wrote: This happened at a cafe called Blue's Egg in Wisconsin. Apparently the blue part of the name set this guy off. And yeah, I'm gonna blame Trump for this shit.
Of course you will. But then you are an idiot, so......?
Posts: 3,797
Threads: 47
Joined: Apr 2018
The President Is Hallucinating and I Think We Should Be Concerned
Trump is declaring a fictional emergency to complete a wall he hasn't started in response to an incursion that doesn't exist. It's Wayne Hays in the White House.
by Tim Miller
February 15, 2019 4:55 am
Season three of True Detective follows Wayne Hays, a stoic, world-weary cop, played by Mahershala Ali, as he tries to uncover the truth behind the kidnapping of two children in three separate timelines over the course of three decades. The final stanza depicts Hays in his twilight years. His gut and instincts are still there. The elements that drew you to love (or hate) the character haven’t dimmed. But he’s not the same. His memory is fading. He’s experiencing vivid hallucinations including his deceased wife, an ominous and non-existent sedan on his street, and threatening beings in his home. In one vignette he wakes up on the street in his bathrobe.
The show has not yet given us a medical diagnosis of what exactly is afflicting him. And I’m no doctor. But as I’ve been watching the show and the news the past week I am becoming increasingly alarmed by the prospect that Wayne Hays and the president of the United States may be suffering from the same condition.
I do not offer this possibility lightly. I know that the Trump administration and its allies take very seriously false accusations of health problems. And I am aware that the president just recently received another glowing review from the plenipotentiary vice-minister of medical services in the White House and has in the past availed himself of the top-of-the-line medical advice that is afforded the wealthy in our free market system.
But even so, I feel compelled to abide by the DHS mantra of “see something, say something,” so here it is.
The president seems to be hallucinating about marauding Hispanic invaders. I think we should be concerned.
Maybe Trump isn’t in the same deteriorating mental place as Wayne Hays. After all, Hays is a fictional character on prestige cable and Trump was a character on a network reality series. You can’t equate the two, of course.
So maybe Trump is really a 243-pound (lol) septuagenarian Haley Joel Osment, and he’s seeing the corpses of contractors he and his father have screwed over in decades past? Or maybe he’s gone deep down a YouTube suggested video rabbit hole and he’s watching clips from a Middle Eastern war zone that have been mislabeled as present-day Mexico and Trump is convinced its real because the people are brown-skinned and it looks kinda like what he imagines the border to be. I don’t know. As I said, I’m not a doctor.
We should also consider the possibility that a member of the Deep State has been dosing his Diet Coke with acid. After all, they never found out who wrote that anonymous New York Times op-ed.
What I know for certain is that here on the physical plane of existence there is no security emergency at the U.S.-Mexico border.
The incursion the president describes is not the lived reality of any actual Americans. Border crossings are down, crime is down, employment is up. Yet the president’s hallucinations persist, and in the past week they seem to be growing more severe.
At a speech in El Paso, rather than just talking about the imaginary caravan of people invading the country, Trump actually claimed that he had invented the word “ caravan” altogether. (In fact, the word is sourced from medieval Latin, caravana, picked up during the Crusades from Persian karwan “group of desert travelers.” Donald Trump is very old but this is slightly before his time.)
He has also begun touting the construction of an imaginary wall. “ The wall is being built. It’ll continue. It’s going at a rapid pace,” he said. “Now you really mean ‘finish the wall’ because we’ve built a lot of it,” he continued. None of these statements are remotely true. And rather than be alarmed that the president is having a wall-themed seance, everyone is going along with it. After all, the wall is in our hearts.
So then I start to wonder—maybe I’m the crazy one. Maybe this is all just equal parts Trumpian hyperbole and good old fashioned gaslighting.
But if so, what explains the other delusions, like the blubbering tough guys crying whenever they meet Trump. And it’s not just this one time. Trump seems to keep meeting “monster” sized buff men who are brought to tears by their gratitude to him. For a wall that doesn’t exist. That’s designed to stop an infiltration that isn’t happening.
The layers of unreality build upon itself.
After-all, whatever happened to the president’s friend “Jim” who used to go to Paris every year but now doesn’t? He was scared of the imaginary brown-skinned “ infiltration” of the City of Lights. We haven’t heard from him in a while. Are you in there Jim?
Now the dots are being connected . . . Pepe Silva . . . Time replaced by a fever dream . . . Paris under siege. The apparitions in Trump’s delusions are having menacing delusions of their own.
So now the Orange King is set to act. Haunted by these threats he is poised to declare an extralegal national emergency to prevent a U.S.-Carcosan nightmare. This, you would hope, would be the moment for those close to the president recognize this illness and shake him back to reality. To stand with him by the window and with kind eyes let him know that, no there is no ominous car out there. There are no barbarians at the gates.
But no, the delusions persist. The fantasy is fed. And at times even those who can see the light can feel our definitions fading.
https://thebulwark.com/the-president-is-...concerned/
Sally, the flaming asshole of MockForums
Posts: 86,959
Threads: 2,951
Joined: Jun 2008
What the hell is up with the President of the United States giving a press conference in a sing song voice? Just what the actual fuck was that? Jesus. I hope I can find a clip to share with everyone.
Posts: 86,959
Threads: 2,951
Joined: Jun 2008
A reporter asked trump who shaped his views and he went on to name Sean, Rush and Coulter. I already knew that but to actually see him say it was fuckin' incredible.
Posts: 3,206
Threads: 115
Joined: Feb 2009
So fucking what? No honestly, so fucking what?
If the opposite was done on the Democrat side you would not raise an eyebrow.
If it was Hillary and she said that Maddow, Michelle Obama and the Young Turks all thought something, you would not think that incredible.
Posts: 3,206
Threads: 115
Joined: Feb 2009
(02-15-2019, 12:48 PM)Rootilda Wrote: The President Is Hallucinating and I Think We Should Be Concerned
Trump is declaring a fictional emergency to complete a wall he hasn't started in response to an incursion that doesn't exist. It's Wayne Hays in the White House.
by Tim Miller
February 15, 2019 4:55 am
Season three of True Detective follows Wayne Hays, a stoic, world-weary cop, played by Mahershala Ali, as he tries to uncover the truth behind the kidnapping of two children in three separate timelines over the course of three decades. The final stanza depicts Hays in his twilight years. His gut and instincts are still there. The elements that drew you to love (or hate) the character haven’t dimmed. But he’s not the same. His memory is fading. He’s experiencing vivid hallucinations including his deceased wife, an ominous and non-existent sedan on his street, and threatening beings in his home. In one vignette he wakes up on the street in his bathrobe.
The show has not yet given us a medical diagnosis of what exactly is afflicting him. And I’m no doctor. But as I’ve been watching the show and the news the past week I am becoming increasingly alarmed by the prospect that Wayne Hays and the president of the United States may be suffering from the same condition.
I do not offer this possibility lightly. I know that the Trump administration and its allies take very seriously false accusations of health problems. And I am aware that the president just recently received another glowing review from the plenipotentiary vice-minister of medical services in the White House and has in the past availed himself of the top-of-the-line medical advice that is afforded the wealthy in our free market system.
But even so, I feel compelled to abide by the DHS mantra of “see something, say something,” so here it is.
The president seems to be hallucinating about marauding Hispanic invaders. I think we should be concerned.
Maybe Trump isn’t in the same deteriorating mental place as Wayne Hays. After all, Hays is a fictional character on prestige cable and Trump was a character on a network reality series. You can’t equate the two, of course.
So maybe Trump is really a 243-pound (lol) septuagenarian Haley Joel Osment, and he’s seeing the corpses of contractors he and his father have screwed over in decades past? Or maybe he’s gone deep down a YouTube suggested video rabbit hole and he’s watching clips from a Middle Eastern war zone that have been mislabeled as present-day Mexico and Trump is convinced its real because the people are brown-skinned and it looks kinda like what he imagines the border to be. I don’t know. As I said, I’m not a doctor.
We should also consider the possibility that a member of the Deep State has been dosing his Diet Coke with acid. After all, they never found out who wrote that anonymous New York Times op-ed.
What I know for certain is that here on the physical plane of existence there is no security emergency at the U.S.-Mexico border.
The incursion the president describes is not the lived reality of any actual Americans. Border crossings are down, crime is down, employment is up. Yet the president’s hallucinations persist, and in the past week they seem to be growing more severe.
At a speech in El Paso, rather than just talking about the imaginary caravan of people invading the country, Trump actually claimed that he had invented the word “caravan” altogether. (In fact, the word is sourced from medieval Latin, caravana, picked up during the Crusades from Persian karwan “group of desert travelers.” Donald Trump is very old but this is slightly before his time.)
He has also begun touting the construction of an imaginary wall. “The wall is being built. It’ll continue. It’s going at a rapid pace,” he said. “Now you really mean ‘finish the wall’ because we’ve built a lot of it,” he continued. None of these statements are remotely true. And rather than be alarmed that the president is having a wall-themed seance, everyone is going along with it. After all, the wall is in our hearts.
So then I start to wonder—maybe I’m the crazy one. Maybe this is all just equal parts Trumpian hyperbole and good old fashioned gaslighting.
But if so, what explains the other delusions, like the blubbering tough guys crying whenever they meet Trump. And it’s not just this one time. Trump seems to keep meeting “monster” sized buff men who are brought to tears by their gratitude to him. For a wall that doesn’t exist. That’s designed to stop an infiltration that isn’t happening.
The layers of unreality build upon itself.
After-all, whatever happened to the president’s friend “Jim” who used to go to Paris every year but now doesn’t? He was scared of the imaginary brown-skinned “infiltration” of the City of Lights. We haven’t heard from him in a while. Are you in there Jim?
Now the dots are being connected . . . Pepe Silva . . . Time replaced by a fever dream . . . Paris under siege. The apparitions in Trump’s delusions are having menacing delusions of their own.
So now the Orange King is set to act. Haunted by these threats he is poised to declare an extralegal national emergency to prevent a U.S.-Carcosan nightmare. This, you would hope, would be the moment for those close to the president recognize this illness and shake him back to reality. To stand with him by the window and with kind eyes let him know that, no there is no ominous car out there. There are no barbarians at the gates.
But no, the delusions persist. The fantasy is fed. And at times even those who can see the light can feel our definitions fading.
https://thebulwark.com/the-president-is-...concerned/
There is a national emergency at the border 400000 illegal immigrants a year is a national emergency. This view is shared by many. Saying otherwise is a subjective opinion. The only one who ultimately makes the decision as to which subjective opinion is right, is the President.
Posts: 86,959
Threads: 2,951
Joined: Jun 2008
(02-15-2019, 12:48 PM)Rootilda Wrote: The President Is Hallucinating and I Think We Should Be Concerned Roo, does this mean Mexico isn't going to pay for the wall? Say it ain't so.
Posts: 3,206
Threads: 115
Joined: Feb 2009
(02-15-2019, 01:28 PM)Duchess Wrote: (02-15-2019, 12:48 PM)Rootilda Wrote: The President Is Hallucinating and I Think We Should Be Concerned Roo, does this mean Mexico isn't going to pay for the wall? Say it ain't so.
Are they going to pay this in a lump sum, in piecemeal or installment? Is it going to be in kind as a measure of offset or benefit?
You.....don't actually know do you? You know if the wall saves money that Mexican illegal immigration would cost when it is unfettered by a physical barrier, that would do it. Save teh cost of teh wall over 5 or 10 years and Mexico is paying for the wall by way of cost offset.
Posts: 17,885
Threads: 49
Joined: Nov 2015
It was delicious to not hear half the people around you loudly jabbering away in Spanish this week.
Posts: 37,639
Threads: 1,590
Joined: Jun 2008
I was thinking of learning Spanish just to understand WTF they are saying.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
Posts: 17,885
Threads: 49
Joined: Nov 2015
Tio hit tia then she threw his stuff in the front yard while screaming at 2 am, then the cops came and tried to take him to jail but she fought them and now bofe are in yail tanks god in a sanctuary city. blah blah blah
Posts: 37,639
Threads: 1,590
Joined: Jun 2008
I watched a couple spanish dopes get stuck in the snow because they were trying to do donuts in it, they ended up hooking a rope to the idler arm and tearing that out, then they tried to stick the car mats under the tires for traction they flew across the parking lot. Then a truck pulled up and they hooked a rope to the plastic bumper tearing that off. The car looked like hell when they were done .............unduley undulay was all I caught but it sure made my lunch time happy...............I was laughing like crazy that day.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
Posts: 86,959
Threads: 2,951
Joined: Jun 2008
(02-15-2019, 03:21 PM)Maggot Wrote: unduley undulay
That's what I say when I'm at the tail end of traffic at the light and I actually make it through by the hair on my chinny chin chin.
Posts: 37,639
Threads: 1,590
Joined: Jun 2008
(02-15-2019, 03:30 PM)Duchess Wrote: (02-15-2019, 03:21 PM)Maggot Wrote: unduley undulay
That's what I say when I'm at the tail end of traffic at the light and I actually make it through by the hair on my chinny chin chin.
I have a boat horn that I blast when the person is in front of me and is on their phone when the light turns green and they just sit there. It wakes them up.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
Posts: 17,885
Threads: 49
Joined: Nov 2015
Jesus gave me a built in one.
Posts: 10,755
Threads: 417
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 37,639
Threads: 1,590
Joined: Jun 2008
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.
Posts: 10,755
Threads: 417
Joined: Jul 2010
(02-16-2019, 10:20 AM)Maggot Wrote: (02-15-2019, 09:17 PM)Carsman Wrote: (02-02-2019, 07:24 PM)Carsman Wrote: The Donald is close by at Mar-Largo this weekend, and damn, because of that it changed the "flight paths" of many commercial planes taking off and landing at PBI!
Every 10 to 15 minutes planes that never flew overhead here in my area when he's not here, are now roaring overhead thanks to that!
Damn, tonight he's back in town again, here comes the planes overhead again! Stay the hell in the WH already!
Cars you should go visit him in Mar Largo.
With my luck, if I was there, that's when the all nuts would come out of the woodwork!
Carsman: Loves Living Large
Home is where you're treated the best, but complain the most!
Life is short, make the most of it, get outta here!
|