INDIANA -- TEEN GIRLS KILLED WHILE HIKING; Liberty German and Abigail Williams

[Duchess]

I've jumped to conclusions in Mock's crime forum before, and been wrong, and having said that, I don't think any of those ^^^^^ are a coincidence, I think they are evidence of his guilt.

[BigMark]

Who is RA?

[Duchess]

Richard Allen

[BigMark]

did they find any dna on the girls

[Duchess]

...asks the detective's son.

[GirlBoss]

It didn’t mention his dna on girls in arrest warrant
But, they could be testing some of the items collected recently from his home for their dna - but has been so long since murders probably minimal possibility of finding any

Wonder if it’s possible they didnt have his dna on file yet at time of arrest - hopefully more to come.

[GirlBoss]

Breaking news from Fox59 in Indianapolis

Richard Allen overlooked in 2017 due to a clerical error, described as misfiling by civilian employee in FBI.

This could have been solved years ago.

[Duchess]

Oh my god that's a very serious error!

Makes me wonder how often that happens.

[MirahM]

That is really sad.

[GirlBoss]

Gag order issued today.
Hearing set Jan 13^th to decide if it will remain in place

Only other small tidbit I learned RA goes by Rick/Ricky

[aussiefriend]

RA is the bridge guy. What a dumbass. His shell casing found in between girls bodies. Dirty fuck. The wife must have known it was him, oh come on. No wonder the town is pissed.

[GirlBoss]

Got a copy of the interview transcript of Keegan Kline.

He was arrested in 2020 on a variety of charges regarding child porn. He was in early 20s at time of murder.
In the transcript it becomes clear that he got on LE radar due to Libby and Abby investigation.  And an account of his ( “Anthony Shots”) on a social media site (Kik) interacted with Libby online on the date of the murder.
KK cooperated with LE -denied meeting Libby, denied being in Delphi, and denied killing the girls. Said he’s only been to Delphi once and that was in hs for a football game. Said didn’t know Monon High Bridge at all.
KK gave dna, hair sample, and offered polygraph and turned over all electronics to LE.
There’s 25 pages with some bombshells in A&L investigation- it’s kind of all over the place and a bit complex so I’ll try to summarize:
KK’s dad - they call him Tony Kline also had access to KKs electronics & social media accounts.
LE could tell by change in diction/punctuation etc that there was more than one person using KK’s Anthony Shots account.
KK says he thinks he was with his dad all day on day of murder.
Also says his dad might have been using his social media to talk to underage girls - even though great relationship now, he was abusive to him growing up, assaulted his step-mom, and always liked underage girls. Caught his dad having sex with a friend of his in hs - girl was a minor.
Asked KK if he knew Ron Logan or if his dad did - KK not familiar with the name. ( A&L bodies were found on RL’s property).

This interview was way before RA came into picture so will be interesting to see if connection between TK and RA - and maybe even RL.

Some of the videos on KK electronics were of really young girls being violently assaulted - when they told KK he said he didn’t want to hear about the details, was not interested in that young of girls, not his.

So much depravity in this case. Sickening.
But I have to say KK is believable and seems like investigators had reason to believe he was credible too.

[BigMark]

[GirlBoss]

Yes he does , and the crazy thing is all three RA, TK, RL all have some resemblance to the still of BG
I think RA looks a lot like initial sketch too.
Thankfully LE has a video with more than a still and his voice. Should be able to have decent height and weight estimate. We know RA had similar clothing to video still - collected when RA house searched - and wife had pics of him in similar clothes on FB

And the second drawing looks a lot like KK

Apparently KK and TK lived in Peru, IN and RA lived in Mexico, IN before move to Delphi - pretty close.

Some talk of possible sex ring that KK would sell access to his Anthony Shots account to other pervasive and pics of girls … like dark web shit.

I hope LE is able to definitively prove who was/was not involved.

They’ve been able to keep KK locked up due to his felony porn charges - which don’t include murder - so KK is very motivated to save himself - even though seems forthcoming to LE - can’t lose sight of what a pos he is and be skeptical

[MirahM]

I feel sick to my stomach immedietly.

[BigMark]

they don't know hot to sweat people.

[GirlBoss]

There is a big discrepancy in height for RA (5’6) and TK (6’).
With initial reports of Bridge Guy - it said something like no taller than 5’8.

RL died of COVID - and being mid 70s at time of murders - just doesn’t seem like he physically could have done this.
Also, LE says scene was staged - like girls killed somewhere else than displayed there. Why would he leave them on his own property?

Things we know about RA:
1. Under 5’8
2. Admits to being on bridge at time of murder
3. Has similar clothing as BG
4. Has gun matching type of bullet found at scene
5. Admits he parked at place of interest

Of course after his initial info given to park ranger ( I think) gets mis-filed he never comes forward again to offer that up when police asking for info about cars parked at that spot.

[aussiefriend]

This should not even be a discussion anymore. It's the dude on the bridge. He is it. Slam dunk. You don't even have to be that good at this to see that. The walk, look at when he walks out of court with his head down and same demeanour, he's the dude. There will be other supporting data to give the full picture, but just start off with that's him, it's him, it's him.

addit: not saying KK, TK etc. are not involved. Gross the thought. Apart from winning the award for the "Worst Catfish Ever" he probably had some input and that's why he has done a deal.

KK would have collapsed the bridge. Come on, be sensible.

[GirlBoss]

This should not even be a discussion anymore. It's the dude on the bridge. He is it. Slam dunk. You don't even have to be that good at this to see that. The walk, look at when he walks out of court with his head down and same demeanour, he's the dude. There will be other supporting data to give the full picture, but just start off with that's him, it's him, it's him.

addit: not saying KK, TK etc. are not involved. Gross the thought. Apart from winning the award for the "Worst Catfish Ever" he probably had some input and that's why he has done a deal.

KK would have collapsed the bridge. Come on, be sensible.

I do think RA is Bridge Guy but LE will know better than us just going off a couple second grainy video/still.

And, even if he is BG they STILL need to prove he was the murderer and not just on the bridge. 

Discussion and questioning what we know, what actually happened, what evidence points to this l, to multiple perps, etc  should continue.

[aussiefriend]

I heard a theory that KK and TK were involved along with the owner Ron all part of some sick child ring. It will all come out eventually.