THE DEMS PLAN A COMEBACK

[pyropappy]

How do other places manage healthcare and America can't? I don't think I've ever looked into that.

just one of the many things you never looked into; couldn't have anything to do with size of population

[Duchess]

Hey Pappy! How 'bout those Republicans. Hehehe

[HairOfTheDog]

How do other places manage healthcare and America can't? I don't think I've ever looked into that.

just one of the many things you never looked into; couldn't have anything to do with size of population

I'm not following you, pappy.

China has public healthcare and they've got almost 5x the population of the U.S.

India also has public healthcare and a larger population than the U.S.

[Maggot]

America has health care and its very good in fact people come from other countries to be treated here for free.

[Carsman]

America has health care and its very good in fact people come from other countries to be treated here for free.

And some of them are even legal!

[HairOfTheDog]

America has health care and its very good in fact people come from other countries to be treated here for free.

I don't disagree that the U.S. generally has good healthcare.

The point is that not every American has access to that healthcare like the citizens of many other developed countries.

Fortunately, Obama's ACA helped provide access to millions more Americans; particularly those who couldn't afford health insurance or who couldn't get it because insurers turned down people with pre-existing conditions.

And, yeah, U.S. doctors and medical researchers do work pro-bono on some cases; same as in India, China, and other countries with a public health option available to all their citizens (which is not tied to employment/employer, as is frequently the case in the U.S.).

[Maggot]

Do they need a car? Because there are plenty out there. To drive to their free health care I mean. Who registers "the car"? The state? And gets it inspected and stuff.

[HairOfTheDog]

My jibberish translator is on the fritz, Mags.

I don't know what the hell you're trying to say, though I assume you're attempting to associate public healthcare with communism or full-bore socialism, like you have in the past.

If you're seriously asking a question and interested in a response, hit me again with a coherent inquiry.

[Duchess]

I haven't paid much attention to what Democrats are doing in quite awhile. Republicans are so much more interesting. Their drama is riveting.

[Maggot]

I can't say that I blame you Dems are a bit droopy lately. The only thing missing is a drool string.

[HairOfTheDog]

I haven't paid much attention to what Democrats are doing in quite awhile. Republicans are so much more interesting. Their drama is riveting.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, the Trump Administration's success in turning the U.S. Presidency into a largely scripted reality tv show drama.......... is an attraction, not an affront, to millions of Americans.

The fact that so many people believe the misinformation, deflection, and conspiracy theories are true, because they re-enforce their existing biases and frustrations, is discouraging to me. To support Trump despite all of the blatant bullshit is one thing. To support Trump because one actually believes the very transparent bullshit is indicative of a widespread lack of critical thinking, or a preference for entertainment vs. substance in government.

But, that's where we're at. And, I think it's working in Trump's favor when it comes to maintaining his base. That's still not a majority of voters, not by a long shot. But, it's still enough in the right states to win him the electoral college and thus the presidency.

Anyway, I'm very interested in the substance of what Perez, Ellison, and Sanders come up with in hopes of keeping Democrats fired up enough to vote in the midterm elections, winning back some swing voters, and bringing new voters into the fold.

[Maggot]

You have to knock-em down before you can pick them up. Everyone knows this. Right? Working the crowd sure is tough.

[HairOfTheDog]

^ No, Maggot, I don't know that and disagree with the premise. That's what authoritarians and dictators do. It's the worst kind of leadership, in my view.

Anyway.........Bernie Sanders is working hard in attempt to help the Democratic party rebuild and continues telling it like it is.

He's traveling all over the country meeting with people in rural America, people he's said for years have been neglected by the Democrats (which left an opening for Trump).

He's not trying to knock them down, he's talking to them about how the government and its leaders should be working to help them build themselves up, without tearing other people down. Interview: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bern...a0ea68fa17?

And, on International Women's Day yesterday, Hillary Clinton released a Snapchat statement encouraging liberals and Democrats to continue standing up, resisting, and getting involved in government.

[BigMark]

Looks like she woke up after a bender aka an Aussie.

[aussiefriend]

I don't normally overindulge these days, thank goodness.

[HairOfTheDog]

Hillary for Mayor?

It's been reported repeatedly over the last couple of months that Hillary Clinton is seriously considering challenging DeBlasio in the NYC mayoral election in November, 2017.

However, Clinton herself has not confirmed those reports.

While a poll after the 2016 election did show Clinton leading De Blasio 49 percent to 30 percent, a recent survey in March revealed most New Yorkers don't want Clinton to jump into the race--with 58 percent of likely voters saying she should stay out. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03.../21896689/

But it's unclear how quick Clinton will be to fully embrace polling following the 2016 presidential election if she is considering a mayoral run.

Clinton should do as she sees fit and let voters decide, of course. Personally, I'd rather not see her challenge one of her biggest and most vocal presidential election supporters. I don't think she'd win.

[Duchess]

I hope she doesn't. Nonono

[Maggot]

The Dems couldn't plan a pizza party for a group of 5 yr olds right now.

[HairOfTheDog]

I sure wouldn't bet on that and become complacent if I were a member of the RNC or a conservative zealot, Maggot.

There have been millions of people, presumably mostly Democrats and Independents, hitting the streets and Town Halls in objection to Trump's immigration/travel ban and healthcare reform proposals.

The immigration/travel ban has been judicially rejected in both of its iterations so far, and the AHCA in its current form is weak and total shit (I don't think many objective non-politicians would argue that fact). Even Trump told Tucker Carlson that he knows the current bill would hurt his rust belt base supporters more than anyone else and he's looking at it.

Democrats and Independents (and even some disillusioned Republicans) are mobilizing over such key issues. Bernie's all over the country and the issues, and Perez and Ellison are working to pull together a united DNC strategy.

Stay tuned.

[Maggot]

OK It would be nice if they could get their shit together without violence.