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. . . . . . . . . . . is being Fired by NBC!
(Their weasel words, cancelled)
2 days ago Megyn Kelly Today" program aired and she unleashed a comment that it's okay to wear blackface at Halloween.
Now NBC has said the MKT show is being cancelled because of that statement! I'm not a big fan of hers, but c'mon!
Has NBC PC gone completely overboard by this action? What is your reaction?
(What ever happened to free speech? Is her 1st amendment right being violated?))
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She has a history of making racial statements that cause controversy.
I used to watch her once in a blue moon on FOX. She was very serious and passionate in her insistence that Santa Claus is white!!! She made the same impassioned claim when it comes to Jesus.
Anyway, NBC gave her over $60 million to join their network after she made a splash taking on Trump in 2016. That's way more than the other morning show hosts make. And, she's reportedly created a very tense working environment and has not delivered the ratings they'd hoped for.
I think the black face comment was probably just an excuse or final straw to justify booting her.
As far as 1st amendment rights......they don't apply on the job in private business. The employer determines what's allowable or not. She might win a settlement if there's nothing specific in her contract that applies to her statement and NBC just wants her out though.
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Yeah they were looking to boot her but she walks away with 69 million. In todays social justice court house people especially celebrities need to just be neutral in quite a few things. Measuring their statements, look at Roseanne and a few others like Cathy Griffith (although she was a bit over the top) I really don't care but it's kinda pitiful.
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One of our finest has worn blackface with the complete support of her husband.
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I've seen that photo circulating before. It's not Hillary and Bill Clinton (though there is a resemblance to Bill).
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(10-26-2018, 08:26 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I've seen that photo circulating before. It's not Hillary and Bill Clinton (though there is a resemblance to Bill).
What about this one of Megyn?
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I'll buy that one Ski. ')
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What am I going to do with all of this shoe polish now?
Would it be PC to dress up as black face santa or Jesus then?
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(10-26-2018, 07:32 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: She has a history of making racial statements that cause controversy.
I used to watch her once in a blue moon on FOX. She was very serious and passionate in her insistence that Santa Claus is white!!! She made the same impassioned claim when it comes to Jesus.
Anyway, NBC gave her over $60 million to join their network after she made a splash taking on Trump in 2016. That's way more than the other morning show hosts make. And, she's reportedly created a very tense working environment and has not delivered the ratings they'd hoped for.
I think the black face comment was probably just an excuse or final straw to justify booting her.
As far as 1st amendment rights......they don't apply on the job in private business. The employer determines what's allowable or not. She might win a settlement if there's nothing specific in her contract that applies to her statement and NBC just wants her out though.
An insistence that Santa was white is racist? Only to Snowflakes who marinate in PC political identity Progressive Social Justice bullshit. That is why YOU think insisting on Santa being white is racist.
Now IS Santa or Jesus white. Yes and no. Every traditional depiction of both Santa and Jesus IS white. Secondly IF we assume both of them are likely mythological or possible composite characters drawn from a few people in history then they are representation and ideas not people to which have to have a skin tone or race. So she would in either of these instances be quite right on insisting that Santa and Jesus are the race and skin tone depicted on every traditional depiction of them through the ages AND it would be fucking ridiculous to call her racist for looking to the depictions as accurate representations and only an ideologue Snowflake or dishonest idiot would say so.
That very big disclaimer out the way. Is it worth arguing that the representations are not correct and that the Jesus and Santa were actually of a different race or skin colour IF they existed at all?
Sure you CAN make that case. Santa that we see as the jolly fat man in the red cap and red suit is not an accurate depiction of Santa and was an image that was created by Coca Cola. So who was or could have been Santa. Well Santa was an infusion of religious and Pagan concepts as many of the Saints and traditions of Christianity are (The Easter Bunny for example Bunnies and Eggs and people getting nailed to the cross = Easter). St Nicholas (a Saint who is possibly as much myth as fact - much like Jesus) and incorporates predated Pagan Gods of Winter a bit of Elf thrown in. BUT if we ONLY consider the St Nicholas portion and not the elvish and Pagan God portion that predates the 300AD person and (and strip away the supernatural miracle components) then you are left with a Turkish man with the skin hue of someone like Cenk from the Young Turks. BUT in order to do that you would need to COMPLETELY override any Elf like depictions that may change that look and certainly override any Pagan Gods of Winter who would have certainly been depicted as light skinned as those myths were NOT from Turkey.
As for Jesus, he may have been a person or may not have been. Personally I think he was an amalgam of many contemporary and mythical entities all rolled into one.
I think Attis of Phrygia, Zoroaster, Simon Magnus, and Apollonius of Tyana all fed the concept to which the Son of God was born. A saviour and powerful idea that was to temper the fighting instincts of a warrior people who were finally conquered by a foreign army and to keep their people together and survive their occupation
I do not know of course. Maybe Jesus was a flesh and blood person and not a composite. Maybe his tales were embellished and maybe they were not at all and he was a faith healer, magician, carpenter, preacher and son of God.
None of you know and like Santa, he is a concept and a powerful one. The depictions of him have always been that he is a white man. If he was an actual person, and a son of Joseph and Mary, and born of flesh and blood, then I would say he was probably the same hue as other Middle Eastern men of that time. If he was a son of God and Mary and unlike men in the supernatural things he could do? Well let's say I have an easier time believing he was born white than he could turn water into wine or walk across water.
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I think it was the manner in which she said it. It was unneccesary. But I have to go watch the clip, plus usually all that can be found is the moment she says it and not the full show.....I think.
Jesus most likely had browner skin than his usual surfer depictions.
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I think Megan Kelly is an asshat so I am not upset by this or anything.
If Jesus was a real flesh and blood person he would be browner than the resident population of the Levant.
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He needs a fucking haircut.
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It doesn't bother me if black families want to depict Santa Claus as black. He's a fictional character, FFS.
So, I wouldn't get worked up about it. And, I wouldn't implore everyone to tell their kids that Santa Claus is white, like Jesus.
That's what Megyn Kelly did. It was a racial comment that caused controversy for her. I don't know if it was 'racist' on her part, so I didn't claim it was.
Love Child, here's the video of Megyn Kelly discussing PC policing of Halloween costumes and whether white people darkening their skin to dress as a black character is racist.
If she was a big hit for NBC, the network might have stood by her and seen if it would blow over. Or not.
In any case, they've reportedly been unsatisfied with her for some time and people who worked with her don't seem to be shedding any tears about her departure.
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(10-27-2018, 11:12 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: It doesn't bother me if black families want to depict Santa Claus as black. He's a fictional character, FFS.
So, I wouldn't get worked up about it. And, I wouldn't implore everyone to tell their kids that Santa Claus is white, like Jesus.
That's what Megyn Kelly did. It was a racial comment that caused controversy for her. I don't know if it was 'racist' on her part, so I didn't claim it was.
Love Child, here's the video of Megyn Kelly discussing PC policing of Halloween costumes and whether white people darkening their skin to dress as a black character is racist.
If she was a big hit for NBC, the network might have stood by her and seen if it would blow over. Or not.
In any case, they've reportedly been unsatisfied with her for some time and people who worked with her don't seem to be shedding any tears about her departure.
Thanks for this post, I only saw a snippet version before, and from watching this full video, she (I don't like her mind you) did not say anything so outrageous where she needed to be fired! As you said, they" were just looking for anything they could use against her to get rid of her poor ratings show !
So, she'll just take her $69,000,000 contract salary (without having to work for it) and be off on her way to buy a villa in Hawaii!
(If she doesn't already have one)
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Thank you HotD.. The one I was referring to was the santa claus comment. But I hadn't seen this full clip either. I thought I had. Omg these poor white people who can't dress up as whoever they want to-oh the agony!
Yes santa is a fictional character, but seriously the way she said it and I think she even added a "Get over it people"
It is so wierd to have to claim that santa is white.
She seriously needs to wake up. Or shall I say get woke!
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Here's a clip of Megyn Kelly insisting that Santa is white and Jesus too.
It was vapid commentary, in my opinion.
And, it contradicted her assertion a couple of days earlier that she was a serious journalist, not part of the programming at FOX where hosts present opinions as facts/news (like Sean Hannity, who has responded to the FOX criticism by saying he's a talk show host, not a journalist).
Anyway, the clip above and other racial commentary like it caused a lot of controversy at the time. She addressed the Black Santa issue a couple of days later on her show and claimed she was only joking, presenting herself and FOX as victims of humorless people.
Humorous people had a field day with it however. SNL had Black Santa on Weekend Update and Jon Stewart had a laugh about the piece a few times too.
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Like I said I'm not a big fan of Megyn, and really don't care at all that her show will be gone!
It's the ridiculous over sensitive, "over powerful PC bullshit" that they are using for her firing!
Disagree with her, that's fine, but she is still entitled to her opinion, (right or wrong) that's her first amendment right!
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I don't agree with most of her racial commentary and don't care that she's getting ousted either. But, she has no grounds to file suit claiming her constitutional rights were violated or anything like that.
The First Amendment doesn't apply to opinion.
And, none of us, including Megyn Kelly, has First Amendment protections when it comes to expressing our opinions on-the-job at non-government employers.
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