Critical race theory

[Maggot]

He needs a Tiki torch.   Like the Lincoln project for Virginia's McAuliffe . Bwa hahaha.

[Duchess]

That ridiculous old bastard doesn't have a clue, all he did was respond to the dog whistle. Typical republican. 

[MirahM]

I was in a weather thread on fb where someone mentioned teaching kids more about meteorology and weather warning systems etc etc....it was releated to the tornados.
AND of course the conversation gets off track to people saying things like, "They only want to teach CRT now"
What I found interesting is that one person said it like this, "They only want to teach that white people are bad"
That is not what CRT is.

I found this quote today

The Mantra of WhiteSupremacy
The idea that anti-racist is a code word for “anti-white” is the claim of avowed extremists. 


Oh! And look at the article. Written by Ibram X. Kendi
 https://buff.ly/3EaVzKP #racism

[Maggot]

I think there is more racism being created than there is actual racism.

[BigMark]

As a half breed I have a unique perspective.

[Duchess]

I know a little something about half breeds, but not the same half as you, he's Cherokee. 

[rothschild]

I was in a weather thread on fb where someone mentioned teaching kids more about meteorology and weather warning systems etc etc....it was releated to the tornados.
AND of course the conversation gets off track to people saying things like, "They only want to teach CRT now"
What I found interesting is that one person said it like this, "They only want to teach that white people are bad"
That is not what CRT is.

I found this quote today

The Mantra of WhiteSupremacy
The idea that anti-racist is a code word for “anti-white” is the claim of avowed extremists. 


Oh! And look at the article. Written by Ibram X. Kendi
 https://buff.ly/3EaVzKP #racism

Kendi gives himself away by tagging those he disagrees with as extremists, rather than people who misunderstand. If you don't agree with the proponents of CRT, that alone makes you racist, which is a big, fat load of hooey.

[MirahM]

Yes because saying "How do we save this country before we become Rwanda" is not extreme at all.

I'll just label y'all as people who misunderstand then.

Ibram also labels himself as a racist. People are so afraid to be defined or called that-what he is saying is we all have "racist" thoughts. The point is-how to make sure peopel are not being discriminated against based upon the color of thier skin.

[MirahM]

White fragility.

The most hilarious thing is the playing of victimhood by those who have not been victimized.

They are so full of fear that they cannot see for one moment the plight of someone who has struggled in ways they have not.

Its called compassion and understanding.

To deny its existence is just wrong.

It is not meant to divide.

It is merely meant to educate and say, "This is what happened in the past" "but it was presented like this"

And people will say, "Oh just get over the past already"

There are many things in the past that people remember tho, isn't there. Including statues, and wanting "history" to remain.

Why are people so scared to say, "Yeah some shitty stuff happened to some people, and some people weren't treated properly" "But lets change that"

Instead people are freaking out.

Go ahead and switch the topic tho, and deny the past or say it doesn't matter or say to drop the topic.

[Maggot]

I remember when I was a wee lad my Grandfather would tell me about how big the Grapefruit were in Florida. He would sit there and if I bumped my head push the bump in with a quarter and then give me the quarter afterwards. Those were the days! The Grapefruit was always bigger than my head!

Those were great times and we caught frogs and tadpoles in the spring and brought then to the Piazza for my grandmother to sizzle them over the fire. The Tadpoles never went in, I think she just said that.

Later she would put us to bed and sing us battle songs about northern aggression that to this day it always make me sleepy. Us Northern mill rotten Quebec Indians were just haters of all Niggers and the sort. Enough so much that we never even seen one till we were adults,

I really should check my white legacy.

It all kinda seams like many people expect respect when they never show it themselves. Culture is not racism.

[BigMark]

My ass is so White it is privleged information.

[sally]

My grandpa was a grapefruit fanatic, he had his own grapefruit trees and a special grapefruit spoon to scoop out the sections. He just went on and on about grapefruit. That and the pecans and peaches he drove all the way to Georgia for and the plant city strawberries. That man loved his produce.

[MirahM]

It all kinda seams like many people expect respect when they never show it themselves. Culture is not racism.

You mean like Trump.

Do you think black people were "expecting" respect when they asked for the privilage to vote? That was just 56 years ago. Were you alive then? Catching frogs.

[rothschild]

White fragility.

The most hilarious thing is the playing of victimhood by those who have not been victimized...

That's a profoundly ignorant assumption to make. Suffering is universal: an inherent aspect of life, that serves an important function.

"White fragility" is a stereotype, acceptable only because it is directed at whites. Try making racial generalizations against blacks or Jews and you'll immediately be labeled a racist, anti-Semite, or a neo-Nazi.

Double standards are one of the hallmarks of logical fallacy. Racial stereotypes are either wrong, or they aren't wrong. So, which is it? Present an argument that can be defended with logic. If you can't, I will. Fair enough?

[rothschild]

It all kinda seams like many people expect respect when they never show it themselves. Culture is not racism.

You mean like Trump.

Do you think black people were "expecting" respect when they asked for the privilage to vote? That was just 56 years ago. Were you alive then? Catching frogs.

They didn't ask for it, they demanded it, and rightfully so. If all they'd done was ask, they would not have gotten it.

[MirahM]

White fragility.

The most hilarious thing is the playing of victimhood by those who have not been victimized...

That's a profoundly ignorant assumption to make. Suffering is universal: an inherent aspect of life, that serves an important function.

"White fragility" is a stereotype, acceptable only because it is directed at whites. Try making racial generalizations against blacks or Jews and you'll immediately be labeled a racist, anti-Semite, or a neo-Nazi.

Double standards are one of the hallmarks of logical fallacy. Racial stereotypes are either wrong, or they aren't wrong. So, which is it? Present an argument that can be defended with logic. If you can't, I will. Fair enough?

I rarely use such terms in my posts.

Parents who generally are white are going nuts about true history being taught in schools. They are claiming that crt is "whites are bad, whites are racist" it isn't. Again I give you Tucker Carlson's refernce to becoming like Rwanda. Please.
That is why I say fragility.

[BigMark]

We all have our positive and negative traits, the secret is to take advantage of the positive ones. A lot of people nowadays act like chameleons and have reduced character or values.

[rothschild]

White fragility.

The most hilarious thing is the playing of victimhood by those who have not been victimized...

That's a profoundly ignorant assumption to make. Suffering is universal: an inherent aspect of life, that serves an important function.

"White fragility" is a stereotype, acceptable only because it is directed at whites. Try making racial generalizations against blacks or Jews and you'll immediately be labeled a racist, anti-Semite, or a neo-Nazi.

Double standards are one of the hallmarks of logical fallacy. Racial stereotypes are either wrong, or they aren't wrong. So, which is it? Present an argument that can be defended with logic. If you can't, I will. Fair enough?

I rarely use such terms in my posts.

Parents who generally are white are going nuts about true history being taught in schools. They are claiming that crt is "whites are bad, whites are racist" it isn't. Again I give you Tucker Carlson's refernce to becoming like Rwanda. Please.
That is why I say fragility.

When CRT is defended by claiming that those who push back against it are "white supremacists" -- which is done routinely by mainstream media and people like Kendi -- it only serves to reinforce defensiveness, and does nothing to help build trust.

CRT holds that the status quo is inherently racist, and it's proponents demand that everyone submit to what amounts to "reeducation", at the same time that racial strife is increasing exponentially. That's a strategy that has zero chance of leading to peaceful resolution.

As for history, like all of the social sciences, it is inherently subjective. I have read Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States. One of the things I appreciate about it is that it's presented as an alternative history, rather than a definitive history, because history is *not* an exact science. There is no such thing as "true history", any more than there is a "true" science. It just doesn't work that way. I would also say that Zinn was by and large correct in his presentation. I would highly recommend it if you haven't read it.

[MirahM]

Some people are saying "anti-racist means anti-white"

It does not.

So let me give you a sentence similar to yours.

When people, politicians, main stream media say that anti racist means anti-white it only serves to reinforce defensiveness and does nothing to help build trust.

[rothschild]

Some people are saying "anti-racist means anti-white"

It does not.

You'd have to be a mind-reader to know that. You'd also have to come up with a universal definition of "anti-white", which probably isn't possible given the level of polarization.

So let me give you a sentence similar to yours.

When people, politicians, main stream media say that anti racist means anti-white it only serves to reinforce defensiveness and does nothing to help build trust.

What I said above also applies in this case. But I will say that Marxist theory in general is divisive, and is adopted by those who wish to gain power: which is fine, as long as you understand that those whom you intend to wrest it from will resent what you're doing and are likely to vigorously resist.

An iron fist wrapped inside a silk glove is nonetheless an iron fist -- whether we're talking about fascists or marxists makes no difference whatsoever.