Saying Goodbye To His Good Friend Iraq

[Liquid]

Goodbye old friend. Been a fun 6 years together, but this is my last visit. No way you will see my ass here ever again. Time to let someone else clean up my mess. With literally NOTHING left to do but watch

[LuMPyPussy]

I've seen people in other forums claim that Bush will be remembered as one of the best presidents in history. Strictly delusional.

[Liquid]

I've seen people in other forums claim that Bush will be remembered as one of the best presidents in history. Strictly delusional.

what in the world could they base that opinion on??

[LuMPyPussy]

The fact that he's Republican, I assume. Their party can do no wrong.

[Cynical Ninja]

The fact that he's Republican, I assume. Their party can do no wrong.

There are a whole host of retards over at 24 that will stupidly defend Bushs "honour and integrity" as president while already tearing strips of Obama who isn't even in office yet.

Millenium, Jester, Pmh1nic and others would vote for a clump of tumbleweed if it was the Republican candidate election choice, they are bunch of slack jawed, blinkered retards with Gummi bears stuffed in their ears.

[Zenith]

The fact that he's Republican, I assume. Their party can do no wrong.

There are a whole host of retards over at 24 that will stupidly defend Bushs "honour and integrity" as president while already tearing strips of Obama who isn't even in office yet.
::rotfl::

Millenium, Jester, Pmh1nic and others would vote for a clump of tumbleweed if it was the Republican candidate election choice, they are bunch of slack jawed, blinkered retards with Gummi bears stuffed in their ears.

That's some funny shit right there! ::rolllaugh::

[Sinister]

Millenium, Jester, Pmh1nic and others would vote for a clump of tumbleweed if it was the Republican candidate election choice, they are bunch of slack jawed, blinkered retards with Gummi bears stuffed in their ears.

So fuckin' true. You couldn't be more accurate on that one, Poop. You could try, but you wouldn't be able to.

[AnonyMoose]

[quote=Liquid]Goodbye old friend. Been a fun 6 years together, but this is my last visit. No way you will see my ass here ever again. Time to let someone else clean up my mess. With literally NOTHING left to do but watch

[Duchess]

Holy Fuck !!!...Holy Fuck !!!...You sound remarkably like someone whose words I have read before...My holy fuck outburst is stunned shock.

[Cynical Ninja]

[quote=AnonyMoose][quote=Liquid]Goodbye old friend. Been a fun 6 years together, but this is my last visit. No way you will see my ass here ever again. Time to let someone else clean up my mess. With literally NOTHING left to do but watch

[AnonyMoose]

The only people that were unlucky during the last 8 years were the American public suffering under the worst administration since that dweeb Jimmy Carter. Using your twisted logic Barrack Obama can shrug his shoulder for the next four years and say "it isn't my fault, blame 8 years of the Bush administration not me!".

You are a smart man but its nice to see you are yet another politically retarded Bush apologist who would quite happily cut off his own gonads for his precious Republican party.

I spoke objectively. I am a Libertarian, dispise both major parties equally, and am just observing what I believe will be the future. Although it is a Straw Man, I would point to Lincoln. Lincoln is now looked upon favorably, even though he caused the greatest wartimeloss of life on American soil, and was the first President to suspend Habeas Corpus completely Unconstitutionally. Even Chief Justice Tanner demanded Lincoln reinstate Habeas Corpus and free those 50,000 American citizens that Lincoln imprisoned merely because he thought they MIGHT become sympathetic to the South. Americans are for the most part complete fucking idiots with a pack mentality. They idolized Kennedy too; and we know what a scumbag he turned out to be.

[Zenith]

One day soon, people will realize what American politics actually are. When that day comes, the turning point will have been reached and things as we now know them will never be the same......I can't say that this will be a bad thing. It just depends.

[AnonyMoose]

One day soon, people will realize what American politics actually are.

No they won't. Americans continue to intellectually devolve. Their minds can barely absorb Jerry Springer and Oprah Winfrey.

[Liquid]

Moose, I am not sure I agree with you completely, but I do think that time will soften the view of Bush's presidency. On top of the war and current financial crises, he will also be remembered for leading our country after the ⁹⁄₁₁ attacks and the highest approval ratings in history, at a time our country did need a strong leader and he provided that at that time.
While I was not a Clinton supporter, i would not say we can blame this all on him. Yes some of the current situation's problems originated during his time as President, there are many other factors that snowballed the situation we are in now. The expense of the war being one also.

I think ultimately you are correct that history will look at Bush differently, maybe not "favorably", but probably neutrally.

[Sinister]

No they won't. Americans continue to intellectually devolve. Their minds can barely absorb Jerry Springer and Oprah Winfrey.

Nail on head.

[Cynical Ninja]

One day soon, people will realize what American politics actually are.

No they won't. Americans continue to intellectually devolve. Their minds can barely absorb Jerry Springer and Oprah Winfrey.

Exactly the same thing is happening in the UK, celebrity magazines now out sell newspapers for fucks sake.
It is good to know that there some intelligent Americans still out there, well here at Mock anyway, willing to actually think about important issues instead of watching American Idol and Who wants to marry a midget?

[AnonyMoose]

Moose, I am not sure I agree with you completely, but I do think that time will soften the view of Bush's presidency. On top of the war and current financial crises, he will also be remembered for leading our country after the ⁹⁄₁₁ attacks and the highest approval ratings in history, at a time our country did need a strong leader and he provided that at that time.
While I was not a Clinton supporter, i would not say we can blame this all on him. Yes some of the current situation's problems originated during his time as President, there are many other factors that snowballed the situation we are in now. The expense of the war being one also.

I think ultimately you are correct that history will look at Bush differently, maybe not "favorably", but probably neutrally.

Clinton was crippled by public opinion. A lot of terrorism continued to grow and flourish because he was terrified of low public support. Rwanda is a perfect example of that. He let 1 million die, had Albright stall the UN Security Council by saying "there is no Genocide in Rwanda", and stalled any UStroops from going there. And there were other places he did not pull the trigger. True American Patriots will remember that Bush did what he had to do after 9-11-01 and did not get caught up in worrying about what Americans would have a stomach for. Since Vietnam, America has had an aversion to war. They are fine with bombing governments into submission, but refuse to support putting troops on the ground to depose those same despots. Candidly; I am not even sure it's a "since Vietnam" cowardice. I have read quite a bit indicating that USA really would not have put troops on the ground against Hitler to save the Jewish genocide; but only did so because our economy was being injured by Hitler sinking merchant ships heading to UK with American products.

[AnonyMoose]

Exactly the same thing is happening in the UK, celebrity magazines now out sell newspapers for fucks sake.
It is good to know that there some intelligent Americans still out there, well here at Mock anyway, willing to actually think about important issues instead of watching American Idol and Who wants to marry a midget?

But sadly, there are not enough intelligent Americans to have any effect whatsoever on an election or the general culture of our society. It was hilarious to watch Blacks after Obama won. They actually thought they no longer would have to pay their bills, such as rent, car payments, or food bills. They believe Obama will just take Whitey's money and give it to the Blacks. That is a testament to the idiocy of the average American. Sooner or later, in places like USA and UK, the top 5% that own 95% of the wealth of thse countries will pack up and leave. Places like the Cayman Islands have no taxes and are very secure. Then what will happen to the 95% that own nothing? Any time you want to imagine what would happen; just look at South Africa since the Whites left power. South Africa is the ONLY country on the planet who's currency has continually weakened against the US Dollar. When the US Dollar turned into toilet paper for the rest of the world; it still was a powerhouse compared to the South African Rand. The 5% that own 95% of the wealth in USA are almost exclusively White, except for a few Blacks playing football or basketball that are being payed outrageous sums of money by Whites. Imagine what will happen to USA if all of those wealthy and well educatedWhites leave. It would become a Nigerian tribal society; except with 12,000 nukes.

[Liquid]

Moose, I am not sure I agree with you completely, but I do think that time will soften the view of Bush's presidency. On top of the war and current financial crises, he will also be remembered for leading our country after the ⁹⁄₁₁ attacks and the highest approval ratings in history, at a time our country did need a strong leader and he provided that at that time.
While I was not a Clinton supporter, i would not say we can blame this all on him. Yes some of the current situation's problems originated during his time as President, there are many other factors that snowballed the situation we are in now. The expense of the war being one also.

I think ultimately you are correct that history will look at Bush differently, maybe not "favorably", but probably neutrally.

Clinton was crippled by public opinion. A lot of terrorism continued to grow and flourish because he was terrified of low public support. Rwanda is a perfect example of that. He let 1 million die, had Albright stall the UN Security Council by saying "there is no Genocide in Rwanda", and stalled any UStroops from going there. And there were other places he did not pull the trigger. True American Patriots will remember that Bush did what he had to do after 9-11-01 and did not get caught up in worrying about what Americans would have a stomach for. Since Vietnam, America has had an aversion to war. They are fine with bombing governments into submission, but refuse to support putting troops on the ground to depose those same despots. Candidly; I am not even sure it's a "since Vietnam" cowardice. I have read quite a bit indicating that USA really would not have put troops on the ground against Hitler to save the Jewish genocide; but only did so because our economy was being injured by Hitler sinking merchant ships heading to UK with American products.

We got into WW2 because we had to at that point. If England fell and the rest of Europe we would have easily become a second tier power. Hitler's biggest mistake was being so arrogant and splitting his troops and fighting both East and West. If he would have kept his troops together he may have ruled all of Europe and beyond.
If anything us getting into WW2 was a big step in us becoming a world wide super power and in some cases forcing our will and influence over others on foreign soil. Really after WW2 you saw more and more of this from that point forward.

[AnonyMoose]

We got into WW2 because we had to at that point. If England fell and the rest of Europe we would have easily become a second tier power. Hitler's biggest mistake was being so arrogant and splitting his troops and fighting both East and West. If he would have kept his troops together he may have ruled all of Europe and beyond.

Actually, Hitler only attacked Russia in order to finish off England. England was almost to the point of surrender, but Hitler felt that she would never surrender as long as she had the hope of Russia coming to her aid. Hitler believed if he could take that last hope away from England,Churchill would finally throw in the white towel. He never truly wanted Russia. For all he cared, Japan or Chinacould have all of Asia.I suspect his mistake might have been in the treaty he had with Stalin. If that treaty guaranteed that Stalin would never come to the aid of Churchill, England would probably have rolled over by the time Hitler made a move to crush the Western front of Russia.