Archery season has opened.

[Middle Finger]

Shooting from above like that with shotguns is so cowardly and barbaric at the same time, what a shame.

[The Antagonist]

Do you people belong to PETA too? Because there are some things they'll make up and show you just to get this very same reaction. The same reaction I got out of you LMPP just by saying I don't give a fuck.

I tend to stay away from all these animal liberation groups because they are just as nutty as the item they are fighting against.

Who took the video? The people bitching about it? How much of it is true? Can you REALLY get a good shot with a SHOTGUN from a plane?

Ask me why PeTA has a walk in freezer full of dead animals.

Ask me how much money these groups send to organizations like ALF.

I take everything with a grain of salt and you're just trying to turn this into a political debate about Sarah Palin and steer away from the original issue of BOW HUNTING.

Maggot, checked venison in my dictionary and it says it was used for all game animal meat but now has been restricted to describing deer only. This was in a dictionary from 1962. I'm sure it still stands, but who knows, they let ginormous become a word last year ::nuts::

[Middle Finger]

Oh sorry, I meant shooting from above like that with shotguns is brave and humane, what a great activity.

[Sinister]

That video must have been truly awful for Sinister to have the reaction she did, that alone tells me that I don't want to know what is in it.

Dutch, that one you do not want to see. It does show a wolf dying a horrible death.

[Sinister]

Can you REALLY get a good shot with a SHOTGUN from a plane?

No you cannot. For a clean kill, the farthest you can be from a still target with a shotgun is about 20 feet. A moving target it's anyone's guess if you'll even hit them. The way buckshot spreads when it is fired grows in spacing the further away you get. You can put a hole the size of your head from up close, but it gets more and more spread out the farther away you get.

I admit, I was taken right to rage when I saw this video, but you're right, Ant; this could have been filmed at anytime, by anyone, doing God only knows what. I still didn't like seeing the wolf being shot.

[Duchess]

Ant had such a valid point about PETA...I belonged to them several years ago, at the time I thought it was a worthy cause given my love for animals but, they are way more radical than I am and every time they would hit me up for a donation it was always accompanied by horrific photos & stories...They are just too extreme...Over the top in most cases.

[The Antagonist]

Yah Sinister, things are not always what they seem. What they showed was horrible and I don't like seeing wolves shot like that either. But I saw it as a propaganda film from the get go. Many of these groups do more killing just to prove their point or have their agendas recognized than the act that is going on in reality does.

On WPW, download and read my article on PeTA. All the info I researched myself and recently updated links there. It's in the humane issues subforum off the legislation area.

Just so you know, shooting any animal from a plane is bullshit. I said what I did because I saw how this was trying to taunt me and everyone else into an anti Sarah Palin argument that I do not want to get into (I picked the username Antagonist for a reason!). So in that regard, yeah, I don't give a shit because I knew where it was going. I seriously doubt it's her "preferred" way to hunt as well.

Like I said, take everything with a grain of salt and do a little research yourself.

[Middle Finger]

Yah Sinister, things are not always what they seem. What they showed was horrible and I don't like seeing wolves shot like that either. But I saw it as a propaganda film from the get go. Many of these groups do more killing just to prove their point or have their agendas recognized than the act that is going on in reality does.

On WPW, download and read my article on PeTA. All the info I researched myself and recently updated links there. It's in the humane issues subforum off the legislation area.

Just so you know, shooting any animal from a plane is bullshit. I said what I did because I saw how this was trying to taunt me and everyone else into an anti Sarah Palin argument that I do not want to get into (I picked the username Antagonist for a reason!). So in that regard, yeah, I don't give a shit because I knew where it was going. I seriously doubt it's her "preferred" way to hunt as well.

Like I said, take everything with a grain of salt and do a little research yourself.

Thanks, cowardly indirect Palin supporter.

[Sinister]

Like I said, take everything with a grain of salt and do a little research yourself.

Ya know, normally I do that, especially shit I see on the web. But there is just some shit that you see, particularly when it comes to something you care about, that just grabs you and you don't think rationally about it. Normally I'm smarter than that.

[Duchess]

I never think rationally when it comes to seeing & hearing animals hurt or worse.

[Maggot]

Middle kittens wants me to drop a rock from my tree-stand on a deer.....::rollseyes::

[Middle Finger]

Middle kittens wants me to drop a rock from my tree-stand on a deer.....::rollseyes::

Nah, I think you should use a compound bow or rifle, just like its natural predators would.

[Middle Finger]

By the way, I'd be the first one to grill the meat however it was killed. Just sayin. I've never had venison, but want to.

[LuMPyPussy]

Do you people belong to PETA too? Because there are some things they'll make up and show you just to get this very same reaction. The same reaction I got out of you LMPP just by saying I don't give a fuck.

I tend to stay away from all these animal liberation groups because they are just as nutty as the item they are fighting against.

Who took the video? The people bitching about it? How much of it is true? Can you REALLY get a good shot with a SHOTGUN from a plane?

Ask me why PeTA has a walk in freezer full of dead animals.

Ask me how much money these groups send to organizations like ALF.

I take everything with a grain of salt and you're just trying to turn this into a political debate about Sarah Palin and steer away from the original issue of BOW HUNTING.

Maggot, checked venison in my dictionary and it says it was used for all game animal meat but now has been restricted to describing deer only. This was in a dictionary from 1962. I'm sure it still stands, but who knows, they let ginormous become a word last year ::nuts::

And what, pray tell, does this have to do with BOW HUNTING?

I'd rather hunt with a camera...

I've ridden side by side with deer in the woods when I had my horses. The horse masks quite a bit of human scent! I've also been within 8 feet of a Great Horned Owl twice on horseback.

Yeah, that fascinatingoff topic storypreserved thread integrity, alright.::rollseyes::

You're the only one that mentioned PETA when you tried to ineffectually link and discredit the vid by assuming they're involved. And you're claiming that someone wouldn't be so stupid as to actually tape an actual aerial wolf hunt? Uh... have you looked at youtube lately? There are vids of guys lighting their pubes on fire. Weak argument. Very weak.

So... I'm willing to accept this video's veracity and accuracy. Aerial wolf hunting has already been proven to exist. Are you trying to say it hasn't? Or is this just another ploy by the Democrats to discredit Governor Peggy Hill?

[The Antagonist]

DOPEY[/color]Pants]Yeah, that fascinatingoff topic storypreserved thread integrity, alright.::rollseyes::

You're the only one that mentioned PETA when you tried to ineffectually link and discredit the vid by assuming they're involved. And you're claiming that someone wouldn't be so stupid as to actually tape an actual aerial wolf hunt? Uh... have you looked at youtube lately? There are vids of guys lighting their pubes on fire. Weak argument. Very weak.

So... I'm willing to accept this video's veracity and accuracy. Aerial wolf hunting has already been proven to exist. Are you trying to say it hasn't? Or is this just another ploy by the Democrats to discredit Governor Peggy Hill?

OK please read this slowly so you understand and then go to remedial reading comprehension please, you're beginning to sound like OP when he thinks he's commenting on stuff he thinks he understood.

Fuck you with your topic of preserved integrity shit. You're the one who steered this way off course. What part of I don't want to get into a political debate do you not understand? I cannot say it any more clearly. But so you and MF know, YES I support Sarah Palin. If John McCain drops dead she would do fine in his stead. She COULD pass the seat along to the Speaker of the House which is Nancy Pelosi ....... Would you like that scenario instead? I dont think so.

Do NOT lump me into any political leaning please. You know nothing about my politics and what or whom I'm voting for. Just because I support her does not mean I'm voting Republican or Democrat. Those are not the only candidates on the ticket this year. I'm not thrilled with anyone and I may not vote at all. I don't know.

In regard to PeTA..... you dumbass..... Do you NOT understand the concept of an analogy? I'm using the obvious PeTA to compare to these people in your dopey video because they are just as hysterical and HYPOCRITICAL when it comes to pushing their agenda. ANALOGY.

Please show me where I tried to imply they were involved? (please - take remedial reading comprehension!)

And if you think anyone can get video off youtube of someone's hunt they videotaped and chop it to bits and put together something of their own, by all means, you take the dope of the year award! Congratulations. I'd like to know how to do such a thing! Please tell me.

Yes, you take that video as the bastion of integrity that it is. After all, it's on YouTube!

I also never said nor implied that aerial hunting does not exist!

And congratulations for being such a sucker. What part of me saying I said I don't give a fuck just to wind you up did you not get? Have you ever seen me post anything completely contradictory at the same time? NO you haven't.

Again, I implore you to take remedial reading comprehension.

And what, pray tell, does this have to do with BOW HUNTING?

I'd rather hunt with a camera...

I've ridden side by side with deer in the woods when I had my horses. The horse masks quite a bit of human scent! I've also been within 8 feet of a Great Horned Owl twice on horseback.

Not a fucking thing dumbass. I was replying to someone in particular. Again, please take MORE remedial reading comprehension after you take the other three courses you desperately need.

[Middle Finger]

Palin is a religious nut who thinks the End of Times is coming soon where most of us will burn tortured in Hell for all eternity, that Alaska will be an End of Times Refuge, that dinosaurs lived only several thousand years ago, and other assorted Bible freak items. Her spiritual home is a radical nutjob Church with a crazy nutjob preacher. She also supports a Constitutional change making abortion illegal, including even if you were a victim of rape. Yes, that's right. That is what her religion does to people. All these things are either on video with her speaking at that Church or from interviews. There are loads of other problems with her, but that's enough for me. The idea that she should ever get near real power, never mind the Presidency, is a joke.

[LuMPyPussy]

Oh, let's see... could it be that you've repeated the acronym PETA about 10 times in this thread? No, your initial comment on the subject didn't directly reference the video being made by PETA, but every other post you've made has beat the reader over the head that they're certainly somehow involved.

Perhaps you need a remedial writing course, hmmm? Personally, I don't care for posters that try to beat their readers about the head and shoulders with obvious distractions and blatant lies, trying to derail what WAS on topic. I posted about wolf hunts. You posted about some dreamy ride on your horse. Which one is closer to the original post? Here's a hint: it's not the one about a fucking horse.

[LuMPyPussy]

Palin is a religious nut who thinks the End of Times is coming soon where most of us will burn tortured in Hell for all eternity, that Alaska will be an End of Times Refuge, that dinosaurs lived only several thousand years ago, and other assorted Bible freak items. Her spiritual home is a radical nutjob Church with a crazy nutjob preacher. She also supports a Constitutional change making abortion illegal, including even if you were a victim of rape. Yes, that's right. That is what her religion does to people. All these things are either on video with her speaking at that Church or from interviews. There are loads of other problems with her, but that's enough for me. The idea that she should ever get near real power, never mind the Presidency, is a joke.

Exactly. I can't think of a worse person in office... even Paris Hilton would make a better vice president.

[The Antagonist]

Palin is a religious nut who thinks the End of Times is coming soon where most of us will burn tortured in Hell for all eternity, that Alaska will be an End of Times Refuge, that dinosaurs lived only several thousand years ago, and other assorted Bible freak items. Her spiritual home is a radical nutjob Church with a crazy nutjob preacher. She also supports a Constitutional change making abortion illegal, including even if you were a victim of rape. Yes, that's right. That is what her religion does to people. All these things are either on video with her speaking at that Church or from interviews. There are loads of other problems with her, but that's enough for me. The idea that she should ever get near real power, never mind the Presidency, is a joke.

Exactly. I can't think of a worse person in office... even Paris Hilton would make a better vice president.

Well then go encourage Paris Hilton to run!

And copying and pasting shit from 24 is soooooo original! ::thumbs::

[The Antagonist]

whoops, apparently he posted that while i was posting my reply to you. But he copied and pasted his own shit from 24, so, deal with it.

I highly doubt she'll turn the country into a religious based hell hole.