caused me to ask everyone's opinion here of facebook and myspace. i just had a big conversation with my brother's wife about this, i am tired of people pressuring me to join. i will not. ever. period. this aggravated me even more tonight, reading that fb and ms are not cooperating fully with authorities in kidnapped VA girl matter. there is a goldmine of useful info on those sites. employers, perverts, creditors, stalkers, investigators, & authorities love that shit! and they won't cooperate in a kidnapping/life or death situation??? shit, they don't keep half their members' info private anyway. they say they do. but they always screw up. you think they're secure? yes virginia, there is a santa claus.
my brother's wife had no answer for my question when i was getting pressured yet again....why the hell do i need them to stay in touch with family and friends or send photos blah blah? why do i need a middleman? she said we'd talk more. we already talk. she said other family members are on there. well i already talk to them too on email. so what is the big fat fucking deal with these sites?
oh, i know...i need to go "friend" some total fucking strangers. i don't have enough people to talk to.
and furthermore, some people don't seem to grasp the concept that not everyone i ever arrested is especially fond of me, and would like some personal information about me. duh.
So let me get this straight, you join a social network and then get pissed when they socialise your personal info? post your picture for all of your prison inmate pen pals, show everyone the new underwear that they sending you for christmas, and that some how pisses you off?
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
I have a facebook page that I visit RARELY. On the one hand it's been great because I've reconnected with some old, old friends. On the other hand, I hate it. Talk about herding cats. I visit my fb page a couple of times a month. I don't get how some people are addicted to it. Blurg.
(12-08-2010, 11:05 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Dick, are you directing your comment to me? i made it pretty clear i would never join the damn things. or was that a generic "you"?
So what's your point? I can still make up shit.Damn LC, pull that thing out of your night stand and fucking relax a little bit.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
(12-08-2010, 11:05 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Dick, are you directing your comment to me? i made it pretty clear i would never join the damn things. or was that a generic "you"?
So what's your point? I can still make up shit.Damn LC, pull that thing out of your night stand and fucking relax a little bit.
Who wants their entire life story online? Why do they need a public page to display shit when there is email? I'm with you LC. I already feel like I'm the government's bitch because I pay my bills online and use my debit card for most purchases. I'm surely not going to give them the rest of my life on a silver platter.
People are fucking needy idiots. Hackers own them and they have no idea. Besides, it's bad enough knowing people IRL, I don't want them to eat up my anonymous human interaction time. You guys don't care if I'm an asshole. My boss would.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
When the gothicfairy myspace page was online, that was very very insightful reading all that crap. Like totally weird. She had the rage against the machine song as her theme song "killing in the name of". Comes in handy those websites when finding out stuff about OTHERS!
I have FB and go on it a few times a week. It is great for connecting with my family that live in different states and old friends. But I CANNOT stand when people post every little aspect of their lives in their status. Ok, I am going to cook dinner now. I just finished working out. Now I am going to bed. Who the fuck cares??????? Post a funny status. Post an interesting status. Do not post that you had Raisen Bran for breakfast.
I'm on facebook but do not use my real name or address, as a matter of fact I'm from France there and am somehow related to Ramseykittens.
Hi ..........remember me your cousin Phillip?
NEW YORK (CNN Money.com) -- Two simple pieces of data -- your name and e-mail address -- can unlock a shocking number of details about you, even if you consider yourself to be a very private person who carefully guards your online identity.
Just ask CNN Money anchor Poppy Harlow. She doesn't have a personal Facebook profile. She doesn't have a Linked In account. She is on Twitter, but she typically limits her tweets to links for CNN Money stories and videos.
Yet starting with only those two bits of information, Poppy's e-mail and name, a privacy researcher's searches across multiple online databases turned up information she found startlingly personal: Her father died of cancer at a young age. She has a half-brother. She's Episcopalian. She's not married. She and her father both went to Columbia University. She rents her apartment. Poppy is a nickname.
Then, there was the more private stuff. Her birthday. Years-old photos with friends. Her shopping habits. And some guesstimates about her salary and her family's financial background -- inaccurate ones, it turned out.
Why your Facebook ID is marketers' Holy Grail
That's a lot of information about someone who values her privacy so much. Imagine what the Internet knows about people who aren't as careful.
ReputationDefender, an online privacy company, compiled the dossier on Poppy at CNNMoney's request to illustrate just how much information is lurking around online -- hidden, but accessible to those motivated to go hunt it down. ReputationDefender does not create or sell these dossiers on people; instead, its business is selling consumers tools to control their online personal data.
But other companies are gathering up those personal details and creating similar dossiers for commercial gain. Called "data miners" or "aggregators," they crawl the Web scooping up tidbits.
Much of what they collect is public information from things like voter registration records and telephone books, but the real treasure trove comes from social networks, which provide photos, interests, activities and a list of your friends. The most advanced aggregators can even tie your Web browsing behavior to your online profile.
One individual source of information may not be all that revealing -- but when you tie multiple sources together, you can paint a pretty detailed picture. Your Amazon.com (AMZN, Fortune 500) wish list, public Facebook profile, Pandora playlists and Picasa albums individually may not say much about you, but your name, shopping habits, list of friends, musical tastes and photographs combined say a lot about who you are.
Companies like Acxiom, Rapleaf, Spokeo, Intelius, Merlin Information Services and PeopleFinders have built businesses around compiling and selling that information. Rapleaf and Klout even score your ability to influence others on the Web. (Poppy rates a 42 out of 100 on Klout's influence scale. One of Klout's top influencers, President Obama, scores an 86.)
Right now, those profiles and scores are sold primarily to direct marketers and political campaigns, but insurance companies and prospective employers are starting to use the technology too. Privacy experts say the market for information will keep expanding -- as will the amount of data that can be collected about you.
caused me to ask everyone's opinion here of facebook and myspace. i just had a big conversation with my brother's wife about this, i am tired of people pressuring me to join. i will not. ever. period. this aggravated me even more tonight, reading that fb and ms are not cooperating fully with authorities in kidnapped VA girl matter. there is a goldmine of useful info on those sites. employers, perverts, creditors, stalkers, investigators, & authorities love that shit! and they won't cooperate in a kidnapping/life or death situation??? shit, they don't keep half their members' info private anyway. they say they do. but they always screw up. you think they're secure? yes virginia, there is a santa claus.
my brother's wife had no answer for my question when i was getting pressured yet again....why the hell do i need them to stay in touch with family and friends or send photos blah blah? why do i need a middleman? she said we'd talk more. we already talk. she said other family members are on there. well i already talk to them too on email. so what is the big fat fucking deal with these sites?
oh, i know...i need to go "friend" some total fucking strangers. i don't have enough people to talk to.
New to this thread so Im catching up!
I know I can tell you .... for a VERY long time I THOUGHT I NEEDED to be on FB! I felt like it was my way to stay in touch ... what I figured out is that I never really kept in touch that I missed anyway, anyone that I could and WANTED to reach I could reach any "normal" way. I hate that fb and ms are used to create this "good fucking image" of people and their lives. You never see anyone posting " I cant pay my mortgage this month" ... nor should they. Just so fucking crazy. ANother way for people to follow you and your doings or for YOU to follow another. I think social networks are as fake as they are meant to be!
(12-13-2010, 06:05 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: NEW YORK (CNN Money.com) -- Two simple pieces of data -- your name and e-mail address -- can unlock a shocking number of details about you, even if you consider yourself to be a very private person who carefully guards your online identity.
Just ask CNN Money anchor Poppy Harlow. She doesn't have a personal Facebook profile. She doesn't have a Linked In account. She is on Twitter, but she typically limits her tweets to links for CNN Money stories and videos.
Yet starting with only those two bits of information, Poppy's e-mail and name, a privacy researcher's searches across multiple online databases turned up information she found startlingly personal: Her father died of cancer at a young age. She has a half-brother. She's Episcopalian. She's not married. She and her father both went to Columbia University. She rents her apartment. Poppy is a nickname.
Then, there was the more private stuff. Her birthday. Years-old photos with friends. Her shopping habits. And some guesstimates about her salary and her family's financial background -- inaccurate ones, it turned out.
Why your Facebook ID is marketers' Holy Grail
That's a lot of information about someone who values her privacy so much. Imagine what the Internet knows about people who aren't as careful.
ReputationDefender, an online privacy company, compiled the dossier on Poppy at CNNMoney's request to illustrate just how much information is lurking around online -- hidden, but accessible to those motivated to go hunt it down. ReputationDefender does not create or sell these dossiers on people; instead, its business is selling consumers tools to control their online personal data.
But other companies are gathering up those personal details and creating similar dossiers for commercial gain. Called "data miners" or "aggregators," they crawl the Web scooping up tidbits.
Much of what they collect is public information from things like voter registration records and telephone books, but the real treasure trove comes from social networks, which provide photos, interests, activities and a list of your friends. The most advanced aggregators can even tie your Web browsing behavior to your online profile.
One individual source of information may not be all that revealing -- but when you tie multiple sources together, you can paint a pretty detailed picture. Your Amazon.com (AMZN, Fortune 500) wish list, public Facebook profile, Pandora playlists and Picasa albums individually may not say much about you, but your name, shopping habits, list of friends, musical tastes and photographs combined say a lot about who you are.
Companies like Acxiom, Rapleaf, Spokeo, Intelius, Merlin Information Services and PeopleFinders have built businesses around compiling and selling that information. Rapleaf and Klout even score your ability to influence others on the Web. (Poppy rates a 42 out of 100 on Klout's influence scale. One of Klout's top influencers, President Obama, scores an 86.)
Right now, those profiles and scores are sold primarily to direct marketers and political campaigns, but insurance companies and prospective employers are starting to use the technology too. Privacy experts say the market for information will keep expanding -- as will the amount of data that can be collected about you.
as a single (and rather attractive) woman, my mother called me in frantic one day and said "do you realize that people can view your address and realitives on here" and believe me once i checked into it YES it was avail.
(12-08-2010, 11:04 PM)username Wrote: I have a facebook page that I visit RARELY. On the one hand it's been great because I've reconnected with some old, old friends. On the other hand, I hate it. Talk about herding cats. I visit my fb page a couple of times a month. I don't get how some people are addicted to it. Blurg.
I have a FB acct, though I rarely use it. I signed up knowing full well that .govs and other entities data mine these sights. I joined because I supported Ron Paul for president and it was a place to share info during the presidential primaries . I NEVER put personal info on there. I have lots of "friends", none but a couple who I actually know. These are people who are basically sharing political alerts and videos. I've posted and shared stuff like dirt on pharmaceutical companies and the fake swine flu pandemic, Alex Jones videos, information about legislation while bills are being debated (like the health care bill), etc. Everything I post is also widely posted on forums, blogs, news sites. In a worst case scenario, like political dissidents getting rounded up and sent to FEMA camps, what I've posted at FB would be used against me. However, we would be talking about millions of others posting the same thing so I'll have lots of company. NOTHING is private on the internet. ALL data is mined. The only way to protect yourself is to be a serious geek who knows how to use advanced encryption programs and layers of proxies. Even then, those mostly apply to more private online communication.
Google tracks and stores ALL SEARCHES AND IPs. They have a relationship with the .gov intelligence agencies. If you want to do your searches anonymously, with a site that doesn't store info, use Scroogle (a site created by some geeks who hate Google). Google makes no secrets of it's data mining. That's why they're in business - to make money selling information. Now, that information could be that you like cashmere sweaters or that you're an anti government "radical". It could be Overstock.com buying your info or the spooks at the CIA.
We live in an Orwellian police state where everyone's private info can be had for a price or by using the unconstitutional PATRIOT Act. Unless one is a hermit, you don't have much privacy. Being a politically active individual, I've resigned myself to that fact. I'll never shut up and I'll never self censor out of fear.
All that said, there is the other aspect of FB and the one I find more concerning. These are the people who use it only to post the constant personal updates of their private lives. I was looking at the FB page of my friend's 20 year old daughter. She puts everything damn thing she does, WITH PICTURES, on FB. Kids do this stuff because they are conditioned and have grown up being online. They know nothing else and don't consider the dangers of what they're doing. My friend's daughter will put stuff like her class schedule, what homework she's working on, what concert she's going to on Friday, photos of her desk in her bedroom, etc. Any asshole who wanted to stalk her would only have to look at her FB page. These kids are so connected that I saw where she and her sister were talking to each other, on FB, and they LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE!!!
I recently saw a video news report, from ABC, showing that some digital cameras and smart phones have GPS tracking devices in them and when you post a pic online other people can right click on the photo and get the coordinates of the location that the picture was taken. Apparently, you can turn off the GPS but I'll bet that a lot of people don't even know that their cameras and smart phones have this capability.
So, I see this privacy thing as having very different considerations. One is that the daily habits of someone being revealed online make them vulnerable to stalking, home invasion and the like. The other is political.
Oh, and, BTW, gmail is rumored to spy on it's users, as well. I don't know a whole a lot about this other than email services can't be trusted, either. Yahoo mail once turned over emails of a dissident journalist in China that the Chinese gov't used to put him in prison.
love that shit! and they won't cooperate in a kidnapping/life or death situation??? shit, they don't keep half their members' info private anyway. they say they do. but they always screw up. you think they're secure? yes virginia, there is a santa claus. 
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