Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[kfran]

per lisa's uncle/ch 13.....murderers clearly looking for safe, ransacked house punching holes in walls, pictures removed from walls....and there never was a safe in the house....computers, flat screen tv's, other valuables untouched....he does not know of any leads

Ok, I know I'm behind, but I KNOW I read an article, & for the life of me, I can't remember which one, but it stated that Johnny had told people there WAS a safe in the home. Poor kid, was probably trying to look 'tough', bragging about something that wasn't even true. UGH

I've thought that many times as well regarding Johnny saying there was a safe when in fact there wasn't.

Also, I think it's silly how much credence people have been giving to people being "friends" on Facebook. Just because someone is on my friends list, doesn't mean I call them, talk to them regularly, hang out with them, etc. There are people on my friends list that I haven't seen or spoken with for over 10 years.

[kfran]

To the folks in the Toledo area-

Is anyone or group raising a "hue and a cry" against LE to solve this case?

Any editorials in print, on air or TV commenting on LE's apparent stalled investigation?

Or are you folks satisfied that things are progressing appropriately and this is "business as usual"?

I have the same questions. I guess I am so used to LE blabbing their mouths about every case lately that not hearing anything really makes one wonder what the hell is going on. Are the Toledo LE sitting around w/their feet on their desk eating donut & bacon sandwiches or are they actually working on this case???????????

[Jane]

per lisa's uncle/ch 13.....murderers clearly looking for safe, ransacked house punching holes in walls, pictures removed from walls....and there never was a safe in the house....computers, flat screen tv's, other valuables untouched....he does not know of any leads

Ok, I know I'm behind, but I KNOW I read an article, & for the life of me, I can't remember which one, but it stated that Johnny had told people there WAS a safe in the home. Poor kid, was probably trying to look 'tough', bragging about something that wasn't even true. UGH

i also read it and quoted it early this AM. young guy, sadly it seems he did blab that around unsavory people.

good, I'm glad I didn't just dream it up!

[Lady Cop]

OK I know Im off topic but how do i set up my signature? and how do u send PMs? thanks

see this thread.

http://mockforums.net/thread-4825.html

or ask in HQ with your own thread.

[RaisingAPrince]

To the folks in the Toledo area-

Is anyone or group raising a "hue and a cry" against LE to solve this case?

Any editorials in print, on air or TV commenting on LE's apparent stalled investigation?

Or are you folks satisfied that things are progressing appropriately and this is "business as usual"?

I have the same questions. I guess I am so used to LE blabbing their mouths about every case lately that not hearing anything really makes one wonder what the hell is going on. Are the Toledo LE sitting around w/their feet on their desk eating donut & bacon sandwiches or are they actually working on this case???????????

I am in the area and have not seen any sort of revolt or anything going on. I was really looking forward to the local news last night when they reported they were going to be discussing the latest in the investigation, however there was no latest. The only people talking are the family/friends of LS and JC.

I'm not exactly sure how the people of Toledo would get the police to come out with a presser, but if anyone has any suggestions I'm sure someone here would try and pursue it!

[JsMom]

OK I know Im off topic but how do i set up my signature? and how do u send PMs? thanks

see this thread.

http://mockforums.net/thread-4825.html

or ask in HQ with your own thread.

OK thanks =)

[Methusala]

To the folks in the Toledo area-

Is anyone or group raising a "hue and a cry" against LE to solve this case?

Any editorials in print, on air or TV commenting on LE's apparent stalled investigation?

Or are you folks satisfied that things are progressing appropriately and this is "business as usual"?

The problem/worry is that this is not being handled by the city's large and experienced Detective Bureau but by a tiny Detective Bureau run by the Sheriff's Dept, which normally deals only with traffic and running the local jail, and where appointments made are usually political at the Sheriff's discretion. I am only hoping that the two (?) detectives in their Bureau are up to the task.

As for how the populace feels, bear in mind that each day's newspaper contains reports of shootings, woundings, murders, bodies found here and there, etc. It is hard to keep up and follow it, for the average person.

[Freshbait78]

To the folks in the Toledo area-

Is anyone or group raising a "hue and a cry" against LE to solve this case?

Any editorials in print, on air or TV commenting on LE's apparent stalled investigation?

Or are you folks satisfied that things are progressing appropriately and this is "business as usual"?

I have the same questions. I guess I am so used to LE blabbing their mouths about every case lately that not hearing anything really makes one wonder what the hell is going on. Are the Toledo LE sitting around w/their feet on their desk eating donut & bacon sandwiches or are they actually working on this case???????????

No. Nothing. Well, one local news station did ask a couple of days ago that anyone who knew Lisa & was willing to talk about her contact the station. I didn't see any comments from anyone willing to do that. There was one woman who commented numerous times that the media should stay out of it & leave it to LE. She blamed the media for ruining past murder investigations.

[BlueTiki]

As for how the populace feels, bear in mind that each day's newspaper contains reports of shootings, woundings, murders, bodies found here and there, etc.

This IS tragic. Thanks for the "heads-up".

[EastCoastKat]

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub:
"They are even discussing the possibility if whether or not a minor/child they have become aware of is a suspect. Someone who is a local who knows people involved in this matter has been providing them with names and links to Facebook profil...es and has said Johnny and Lisa were going to go pick up a minor child the night of the murder.

They have been trying to figure out if he is featured in a photo on Facebook. I mean it's really bad."

i find this really entertaining, that shes running the psycho page where she brags about banning over 40 members and deletes any comments she deems inappropriate, completely talked shit about Tiffany and all of the sudden wants to protect/defend her, and now shes bashing this page.




have fun reading!!!!!

LOL I could not agree more! Keep me blocked Justice for I have found new family! where my opinion does matter! THANKS

I think the individual of whom you speak is running a counter maneuver.
There was some horrid threads made and could be constued to have been
made against T or children. Thus, she has to change her tone and make
nice.

I said this earlier and I still believe it: Maytee made her post invisible to the Justice for JC&LS administrator and then they blocked her for doing that, then Maytee started the other page and blocked them from her page, so maybe this is a little retribution? Seems like the Administrator of that page is capable of doing things like that, I watched posts disappear right before my eyes last night...

[RaisingAPrince]

To the folks in the Toledo area-

Is anyone or group raising a "hue and a cry" against LE to solve this case?

Any editorials in print, on air or TV commenting on LE's apparent stalled investigation?

Or are you folks satisfied that things are progressing appropriately and this is "business as usual"?

The problem/worry is that this is not being handled by the city's large and experienced Detective Bureau but by a tiny Detective Bureau run by the Sheriff's Dept, which normally deals only with traffic and running the local jail, and where appointments made are usually political at the Sheriff's discretion. I am only hoping that the two (?) detectives in their Bureau are up to the task.

As for how the populace feels, bear in mind that each day's newspaper contains reports of shootings, woundings, murders, bodies found here and there, etc. It is hard to keep up and follow it, for the average person.

It was said last night in the news that Toledo Police are now involved in the investigation. Not sure if that was said anywhere on here yet.

[BlueTiki]

There was one woman who commented numerous times that the media should stay out of it & leave it to LE. She blamed the media for ruining past murder investigations.

Thanks.

kfran, too.

And you, Prince. Thanks

[InterestingEnough]

To the folks in the Toledo area-

Is anyone or group raising a "hue and a cry" against LE to solve this case?

Any editorials in print, on air or TV commenting on LE's apparent stalled investigation?

Or are you folks satisfied that things are progressing appropriately and this is "business as usual"?

My frustration lies with the local media. You stand outside the sheriff's department if phone calls are going unreturned and wait for Detective A or Detective B to leave and ask them for an update. At this point I would be satisfied with a "no comment at this time" from LE. At least local media would actually then give the impression they are investigating this news item.

[ZEROSPHERES]

Hello everyone, I am new here! but this is Miranda! I see people have brought me up for talking to maytee! I would like to join u all in conversation! I did have a son who passed! I do talk with maytee often! I am just tryin to help comfort her and be there emotionally for her! =) O and YES losing a child does make u a little crazy! If you have any futher questions for me feel free to ask! Thank you!

Hello Miranda,
Hello and welcome. I do though take exception with your chosen handle and like another newbie before you who asked that her "handle" be changed so not to be mixed up with a player in this saga, I think yours should just be Miranda and not JSMOM....JSMOM is misleading and an invitation for more of what you received from your FB page.

[EastCoastKat]

I have been searching around and the only way that I can figure out how LS knew TW is through school .... The were both attending Owens and this was on TW's FB page it was a response to someone asking her what she was up to:

TW: wyt my love...an kaylee n emily shat........chillin at my baybi,s house....got school in da a.m n lookin 4 another nursing job...
November 22, 2010 at 12:02am

That's one of the only ways that I can see these 2 having contact. Maytee didnt' know crap about TW, and no you can't know all your kid's friends but JC doesn't have a FB page so we don't know if they were friends first, but it seems coincidental that LS and TW both attend Owens and for nursing!

Another nursing job??? Who the would let her be a nurse/nurse's aid with drug and theft arrests?

[Lady Cop]

everyone needs to be aware of this. those who asked for name changes especially.

http://mockforums.net/thread-4846.html

[Jane]

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub:
"They are even discussing the possibility if whether or not a minor/child they have become aware of is a suspect. Someone who is a local who knows people involved in this matter has been providing them with names and links to Facebook profil...es and has said Johnny and Lisa were going to go pick up a minor child the night of the murder.

They have been trying to figure out if he is featured in a photo on Facebook. I mean it's really bad."

i find this really entertaining, that shes running the psycho page where she brags about banning over 40 members and deletes any comments she deems inappropriate, completely talked shit about Tiffany and all of the sudden wants to protect/defend her, and now shes bashing this page.




have fun reading!!!!!

LOL I could not agree more! Keep me blocked Justice for I have found new family! where my opinion does matter! THANKS

I think the individual of whom you speak is running a counter maneuver.
There was some horrid threads made and could be constued to have been
made against T or children. Thus, she has to change her tone and make
nice.

I said this earlier and I still believe it: Maytee made her post invisible to the Justice for JC&LS administrator and then they blocked her for doing that, then Maytee started the other page and blocked them from her page, so maybe this is a little retribution? Seems like the Administrator of that page is capable of doing things like that, I watched posts disappear right before my eyes last night...

see, that's where it's simply gone too far. I can't believe admin hasn't shut it down, by now. I just went & 'unliked' ... It's not even a useful 'tool' for information, anymore.......

[doing40thisyear]

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub:
"They are even discussing the possibility if whether or not a minor/child they have become aware of is a suspect. Someone who is a local who knows people involved in this matter has been providing them with names and links to Facebook profil...es and has said Johnny and Lisa were going to go pick up a minor child the night of the murder.

They have been trying to figure out if he is featured in a photo on Facebook. I mean it's really bad."

i find this really entertaining, that shes running the psycho page where she brags about banning over 40 members and deletes any comments she deems inappropriate, completely talked shit about Tiffany and all of the sudden wants to protect/defend her, and now shes bashing this page.




have fun reading!!!!!

LOL I could not agree more! Keep me blocked Justice for I have found new family! where my opinion does matter! THANKS

I think the individual of whom you speak is running a counter maneuver.
There was some horrid threads made and could be constued to have been
made against T or children. Thus, she has to change her tone and make
nice.

I said this earlier and I still believe it: Maytee made her post invisible to the Justice for JC&LS administrator and then they blocked her for doing that, then Maytee started the other page and blocked them from her page, so maybe this is a little retribution? Seems like the Administrator of that page is capable of doing things like that, I watched posts disappear right before my eyes last night...

so is it true the admin is the person who created Facebook page and also why cant the people at Facebook deactivated the account because of all this. I would be kinda upset if someone I didnt know created a RIP page about one of my family members even if it was out of the kindness of their heart. I feel safe in this forum unlike I ever did in Facebook. Even when I tried to make things private (IN Facebook) not all things were private, you know. You have to give Facebook several things about yourself to register and I found my birthdate and email add was listed. NO WAY TO HIDE IT ..even when I made it private. That is why this forum is great. Private and Safe. I know LC and D arent going to post my birthdate or private email add. Also I believe Facebook also knows if you are trolling someone page. As all the sudden, you will get things like you may want to be friends with this person or that...and was just looking at maybe a friend of friend's page. I admit, I am a Hater of Facebook but a Lover of Mock Forums. LOL

[Jane]

I have been searching around and the only way that I can figure out how LS knew TW is through school .... The were both attending Owens and this was on TW's FB page it was a response to someone asking her what she was up to:

TW: wyt my love...an kaylee n emily shat........chillin at my baybi,s house....got school in da a.m n lookin 4 another nursing job...
November 22, 2010 at 12:02am

That's one of the only ways that I can see these 2 having contact. Maytee didnt' know crap about TW, and no you can't know all your kid's friends but JC doesn't have a FB page so we don't know if they were friends first, but it seems coincidental that LS and TW both attend Owens and for nursing!

Another nursing job??? Who the would let her be a nurse/nurse's aid with drug and theft arrests?

someone who doesn't do background checks, I guess. Wild!

[Freshbait78]

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub:
"They are even discussing the possibility if whether or not a minor/child they have become aware of is a suspect. Someone who is a local who knows people involved in this matter has been providing them with names and links to Facebook profil...es and has said Johnny and Lisa were going to go pick up a minor child the night of the murder.

They have been trying to figure out if he is featured in a photo on Facebook. I mean it's really bad."

i find this really entertaining, that shes running the psycho page where she brags about banning over 40 members and deletes any comments she deems inappropriate, completely talked shit about Tiffany and all of the sudden wants to protect/defend her, and now shes bashing this page.




have fun reading!!!!!

LOL I could not agree more! Keep me blocked Justice for I have found new family! where my opinion does matter! THANKS

I think the individual of whom you speak is running a counter maneuver.
There was some horrid threads made and could be constued to have been
made against T or children. Thus, she has to change her tone and make
nice.

I said this earlier and I still believe it: Maytee made her post invisible to the Justice for JC&LS administrator and then they blocked her for doing that, then Maytee started the other page and blocked them from her page, so maybe this is a little retribution? Seems like the Administrator of that page is capable of doing things like that, I watched posts disappear right before my eyes last night...

see, that's where it's simply gone too far. I can't believe admin hasn't shut it down, by now. I just went & 'unliked' ... It's not even a useful 'tool' for information, anymore.......

Yepp I'd say time is well overdue for them to shut it down:

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub
If I hadn't been treated like CRAP by certain people close to this case who I won't name, I'd construct a time line but I have better things to do with my time.
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