Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[JsMom]

Seriously, she needs to do this for herself. This is too much like shaking the fuckin' eight ball.

I will not post anymore! I invited her so well see! Im not tryin to piss no one off again!

[Duchess]

Shhhhh . . . it's a Seance! Don't break the circle!

[Jane]

Seriously, she needs to do this for herself. This is too much like shaking the fuckin' eight ball.

I agree! Tell her it's cool here, & have her join, ok?

(omg, I can't believe I'm in to this, but you never know!??)

[JsMom]

Seriously, she needs to do this for herself. This is too much like shaking the fuckin' eight ball.

I agree! Tell her it's cool here, & have her join, ok?

(omg, I can't believe I'm in to this, but you never know!??)

I invited her!

[Lady Cop]

Seriously, she needs to do this for herself. This is too much like shaking the fuckin' eight ball.

I will not post anymore! I invited her so well see! Im not tryin to piss no one off again!

you have not pissed anyone off!

but i don't want to see you used by real tiffany or fake tiffany.
and if she does join, we will not use rubber hoses on her.

[Duchess]

Seriously, she needs to do this for herself. This is too much like shaking the fuckin' eight ball.

I will not post anymore! I invited her so well see! Im not tryin to piss no one off again!

You're not making me mad & of course I don't want you to stop posting. I become impatient & frustrated when I read of someone commenting on lies that were told against them yet the person chooses not to dispute them when given an opportunity. She is being given a platform to have her say, to express herself in any manner she chooses and I don't understand why she wouldn't be delighted to have the opportunity.

[JsMom]

Seriously, she needs to do this for herself. This is too much like shaking the fuckin' eight ball.

I will not post anymore! I invited her so well see! Im not tryin to piss no one off again!

you have not pissed anyone off!

but i don't want to see you used by real tiffany or fake tiffany.
and if she does join, we will not use rubber hoses on her.

LOL I invited her now whether or not she joins IDK! but it is def. the right tiffany!

[purplepegasus]

I think I agree with her that the momma's boy shit was all in Maytee's head. She seems pretty disillusioned about life. I wouldn't doubt she was disillusioned with this as well. It would explain why he was living with LS too. I've known mothers like this and they usually do drive the children away because they are SO overbearing. The children usually keep their distance but the mother still seems to think that they are #1 in the child's life.

[jash]

Another Mock question for u~
Did LE take your phone?
Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:41pm Report
no.....

WTF? I'm seriously afraid that this investigation is all fucked up. I would think there was enough probably cause for LE to get a search warrant or whatever to take her phone since supposedly she is the LAST one to talk to not one, but 2 murder victims. Am I wrong?

[JsMom]

Shes not talking nomore right now anyways! Maybe shes coming to join us!

[JsMom]

Another Mock question for u~
Did LE take your phone?
Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:41pm Report
no.....

WTF? I'm seriously afraid that this investigation is all fucked up. I would think there was enough probably cause for LE to get a search warrant or whatever to take her phone since supposedly she is the LAST one to talk to not one, but 2 murder victims. Am I wrong?

hummmmm

[JsMom]

I just got notice she is trying to join us now! WAIT!!!!!! la la la la

[curiouscat]

To the folks in the Toledo area-

Is anyone or group raising a "hue and a cry" against LE to solve this case?

Any editorials in print, on air or TV commenting on LE's apparent stalled investigation?

Or are you folks satisfied that things are progressing appropriately and this is "business as usual"?

The problem/worry is that this is not being handled by the city's large and experienced Detective Bureau but by a tiny Detective Bureau run by the Sheriff's Dept, which normally deals only with traffic and running the local jail, and where appointments made are usually political at the Sheriff's discretion. I am only hoping that the two (?) detectives in their Bureau are up to the task.

As for how the populace feels, bear in mind that each day's newspaper contains reports of shootings, woundings, murders, bodies found here and there, etc. It is hard to keep up and follow it, for the average person.

Sorry if this has been addressed already, I am just trying to catch up with everything I've missed on here today and it's some great stuff as usual! Anyway, this investigation is being handled no only by the Lucas County Detectives, but the Toledo Police Department, BCI and the FBI. The sheer silence, lack of leaks and very bold article that quoted experts from other cities and offered a point blank Profile (which really hit home to a "T" no pun intended, ok maybe a little) with the Tiffany crowd indicates to me this is being handled by much more experienced experts in homicide investigation and they are giving direction to the little guys for reasons we will not know at this time. As LC mentioned in a post LE are not intimidated by gangs and their first priority is to PROTECT the case and any evidence they have thus far. I don't believe they have nothing, but I could be wrong. Also the award is increasing for information because many friends and concerned citizens are donating money towards the reward in LS's memory per her parents request in lieu of flowers. People are very upset here in Toledo about this vicious, cruel, brutal crime and they will continue to offer any help they can. So while there are no protests,( it's only been two weeks & we are allowing LE some space to do their job)... there is an INCREDIBLE amount of support being shown in the community from those who are donating to the award fund.

[concerned]

If anyone has a question for TW just let me know and ill ask!

Ask her why she dates young men under eighteen?

Who did TW tell about going to the Straubs house and partying the night before? An other question....I havent seen it asked...

DID YOU CONSPIRE TO HAVE THE STRAUBS HOUSE ROBBED AND JOHNNY AND LISA MURDERED?

[JsMom]

If anyone has a question for TW just let me know and ill ask!

Ask her why she dates young men under eighteen?

Who did TW tell about going to the Straubs house and partying the night before? An other question....I havent seen it asked...

DID YOU CONSPIRE TO HAVE THE STRAUBS HOUSE ROBBED AND JOHNNY AND LISA MURDERED?

She will be joining us soon so she can answer these questions for you!

[concerned]

Shhhhh . . . it's a Seance! Don't break the circle!

:O

[esbee]

Sorry if this has been addressed already, I am just trying to catch up with everything I've missed on here today and it's some great stuff as usual! Anyway, this investigation is being handled no only by the Lucas County Detectives, but the Toledo Police Department, BCI and the FBI. The sheer silence, lack of leaks and very bold article that quoted experts from other cities and offered a point blank Profile (which really hit home to a "T" no pun intended, ok maybe a little) with the Tiffany crowd indicates to me this is being handled by much more experienced experts in homicide investigation and they are giving direction to the little guys for reasons we will not know at this time. As LC mentioned in a post LE are not intimidated by gangs and their first priority is to PROTECT the case and any evidence they have thus far. I don't believe they have nothing, but I could be wrong. Also the award is increasing for information because many friends and concerned citizens are donating money towards the reward in LS's memory per her parents request in lieu of flowers. People are very upset here in Toledo about this vicious, cruel, brutal crime and they will continue to offer any help they can. So while there are no protests,( it's only been two weeks & we are allowing LE some space to do their job)... there is an INCREDIBLE amount of support being shown in the community from those who are donating to the award fund.
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Do you have a link to this article?

[Lady Cop]

welcome Esbee~~ thanks for joining us

[Jane]

Another Mock question for u~
Did LE take your phone?
Tiffany Williams February 16 at 5:41pm Report
no.....

WTF? I'm seriously afraid that this investigation is all fucked up. I would think there was enough probably cause for LE to get a search warrant or whatever to take her phone since supposedly she is the LAST one to talk to not one, but 2 murder victims. Am I wrong?

I'm surprised too, although LE CAN get the actual paper records without having the phone, hmmm If they really didn't take her phone, then it sounds like they aren't all THAT interested in her. Maybe I'm wrong?

[esbee]

Thank you. I've been reading here for days. Great forum!