Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[PURPLECATS]

When did Tiff say she was at Lisa's house? She said she was at the house 1 time before.

[Love Hippos]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

[TotallyCurious]

Here is the lexis nexis interview in words with JVM and Maytee.

http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/End...isRss=true

[Lady Cop]

thankyou TotallyCurious and Jane for the useful links.

and welcome PURPLECATS ~~

[TotallyCurious]

In fairness to Tiffany, regarding the 911 call: I can see, if one is at the scene where there is some question about the safety of the people at the address, if someone shoves a phone at you to talk to 911, you might not recount, verbatim, a previous phone call. Then upon further conversation with the police, and trying better to recall what, EXACTLY, was said, it might change or get expanded. When things are chaotic and you're under pressure, you don't have the time to stop and recall in detail.

I was thinking the same thing, ShitStorm. I'm guessing she probably felt QUITE uncomfortable talking with 911, with Maytee there, accusing her of setting people up.

Body Language would mean alot. And the Ummmms....well I have noticed
my daughters do that when they want to think and get the story as exact
as possible. It is when they have the pat story down that I know they are
selling me the Brooklyn Bridge.

[Love Hippos]

Thanks Jane for the link to Tiffany's posts.

[Jane]

Here is the lexis nexis interview in words with JVM and Maytee.

http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/End...isRss=true

thanks for posting this! So Maytee told JVM that they DID wait till LE had left, before he kicked in the door. So this makes sense with what Tiffany posted earlier. She wasn't there when the door was kicked in.

[ZEROSPHERES]

It's been awhile since I listened to the 911 calls. Can anyone who listened recently to the one with Tiffany confirm if she made the following statement, which I found at another forum and assume is quoted from that conversation.

"My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to pick me up, me and my friend. This was at around 11 o'clock. I was on the phone with his gf Ls and we hung up, we all hung up. Then he, I called jc right back, I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like, 'I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.' I called him right back and he didn't answer."

Didn't Tiffany just tell us she was talking to JC, not LS...that she called him back to tell him she was running to the store, and he told her he'd call her back...that she didn't hear anyone yelling....that she didn't contact 911 immediately because she was waiting for him to call...that when he didn't call after an hour or so, she tried unsuccessfully to reach him?

eta: I hope when if/when she returns she can help put the confusion to rest.

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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[ZEROSPHERES]

you are very welcome here, thankyou for joining.
you may well hear opinions you don't like, but you probably know that already.
all "sides" are allowed and encouraged.
and we don't shut down, ban and censor.

We don't? Sure you do, even if its for the protection of others, or to not name those that haven't been named in MSM or by LE. But whatever the reasons, its still censorship and/or banning, no?
[/quote]

Please DCTim...Thats like Yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater....all rights come with responsibilities

[doing40thisyear]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

[Love Hippos]

It's been awhile since I listened to the 911 calls. Can anyone who listened recently to the one with Tiffany confirm if she made the following statement, which I found at another forum and assume is quoted from that conversation.

"My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to pick me up, me and my friend. This was at around 11 o'clock. I was on the phone with his gf Ls and we hung up, we all hung up. Then he, I called jc right back, I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like, 'I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.' I called him right back and he didn't answer."

Didn't Tiffany just tell us she was talking to JC, not LS...that she called him back to tell him she was running to the store, and he told her he'd call her back...that she didn't hear anyone yelling....that she didn't contact 911 immediately because she was waiting for him to call...that when he didn't call after an hour or so, she tried unsuccessfully to reach him?

eta: I hope when if/when she returns she can help put the confusion to rest.

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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Thanks Zerospheres!

[aileen]

It's been awhile since I listened to the 911 calls. Can anyone who listened recently to the one with Tiffany confirm if she made the following statement, which I found at another forum and assume is quoted from that conversation.

"My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to pick me up, me and my friend. This was at around 11 o'clock. I was on the phone with his gf Ls and we hung up, we all hung up. Then he, I called jc right back, I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like, 'I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.' I called him right back and he didn't answer."

Didn't Tiffany just tell us she was talking to JC, not LS...that she called him back to tell him she was running to the store, and he told her he'd call her back...that she didn't hear anyone yelling....that she didn't contact 911 immediately because she was waiting for him to call...that when he didn't call after an hour or so, she tried unsuccessfully to reach him?

eta: I hope when if/when she returns she can help put the confusion to rest.

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

[Jane]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

[Jane]

It's been awhile since I listened to the 911 calls. Can anyone who listened recently to the one with Tiffany confirm if she made the following statement, which I found at another forum and assume is quoted from that conversation.

"My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to pick me up, me and my friend. This was at around 11 o'clock. I was on the phone with his gf Ls and we hung up, we all hung up. Then he, I called jc right back, I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like, 'I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.' I called him right back and he didn't answer."

Didn't Tiffany just tell us she was talking to JC, not LS...that she called him back to tell him she was running to the store, and he told her he'd call her back...that she didn't hear anyone yelling....that she didn't contact 911 immediately because she was waiting for him to call...that when he didn't call after an hour or so, she tried unsuccessfully to reach him?

eta: I hope when if/when she returns she can help put the confusion to rest.

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

that's how it sounded to me too.

[jenjen]

Tiffany....Thank you for sharing your side of the story, you have a right to defend yourself and I'm glad to see you are doing that.

Just wondering if you were a friend of Johnny's or Lisa's, how long had you known them, how did you meet....that kind of stuff.

[doing40thisyear]

[quote='pspence' pid='128905' dateline='1297907508']
I am so proud of Tiffany. I knew from the start that she has had nothing to do with this and was just trying to help the whole time. I'm so glad she has come on here to defend herself...she has a good heart.

I know that good heart shows in her rap sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Winter]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

In my humble opinion Tiffany did answer the question. By her not answering told me that they were.

[Winter]

Tiffany seems credible in her answers, but for me, the Jury is still out.

[Jane]

Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

In my humble opinion Tiffany did answer the question. By her not answering told me that they were.

& I agree with your opinion, but the fact that Tiffany declined to answer, made perfect sense to me. The fact she wouldn't come out & answer makes me believe they really were her friends.

[shitstorm]

It's been awhile since I listened to the 911 calls. Can anyone who listened recently to the one with Tiffany confirm if she made the following statement, which I found at another forum and assume is quoted from that conversation.

"My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to pick me up, me and my friend. This was at around 11 o'clock. I was on the phone with his gf Ls and we hung up, we all hung up. Then he, I called jc right back, I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like, 'I'm on ... he goes..bro who are you.' I called him right back and he didn't answer."

Didn't Tiffany just tell us she was talking to JC, not LS...that she called him back to tell him she was running to the store, and he told her he'd call her back...that she didn't hear anyone yelling....that she didn't contact 911 immediately because she was waiting for him to call...that when he didn't call after an hour or so, she tried unsuccessfully to reach him?

eta: I hope when if/when she returns she can help put the confusion to rest.

help me out, please. I'm not seeing the confusion. . ?

Hi Jane....Here is the best we can decifer....

RE: Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered - EastCoastKat - Today 09:34 AM

I listened again and this is as best as i can make out what she is saying to 911.

TW...O.K.Hello
911...Whats going on there?
TW...My friend Johnny and Lisa they were suppose to me up. me and my friend. This was at around 11 oclock and I was on the phone with his girl frien Lisa and he hung up and we all hung up. And then I called Johnny right back cause I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house......well he was yellin at some one like um saying "bro...who are you?"

This is what I heard:

I was on the phone with his gf Ls and HE ( TW says he but meant she, okay honest mistake) hung up, we all hung up, (myabe this was 3 way call?) and then he, I called jc right back I was gonna tell him that I was gonna run to the store and I would meet him at the house.. he was yellin at someone like "I'm on (she starts to say something else here)... he goes..bro who are you.. I called him right back and he didn't answer.


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I think that when Tiff started to say *I'm on* I think she was addressing someone who was there near her in the driveway, while she was on the phone with the 911 operator. That is how it sounded to me.

Same here. "I'm on (the phone with 911)", spoken to someone at the scene.