Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[shitstorm]

Is anyone besides me squeaked by the photos of M and J here?
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?tab=3#!...57&theater

Not really but look at this

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=52...57&theater

Does that tattoo say Maytee?

YES IT DOES/. i said that along time ago. guess no one reads my posts.

How observant! Good Post! Maytee means "loveable" in Basque language. Cuban mothers are very loving with their sons!

I read your posts!

I'm always many pages behind.

[onefortheroad]

I have heard of people say shoot a game of pool when asking a dealer for an eightball of cocaine

I'm sure that pool is code for drugs, and wish to hell I could remember where I read it! Does it only mean cocaine though? Could it also mean heroin?

If you check the definition in URBAN DICTIONARY it will give the definition.

If you look earlier on in the posts, the key word is swimming and swim suit,
pool and water all have drug meanings. I can not recall them all. But it
was in reference to someone who had said, "I was swimming with J yesterday"

Thank you!! This must be where I saw it then.

[LoserCity]

ahhh....so what's with using all the 3's in some writing? I think TW's death space page was like this.

I found it interesting too that DC and his friends are wearing blue in each of their photos yet in many of TWs FB posts she says things like "wat up blood?" I don't know anything about this stuff, so it may be nothing, but TW also had a video posted at one time on DS that was called Blood Walk or something to that effect.

[rotten_cotton]

I have just read through about 30 pages of this so forgive me if I am not clear on what I have read.

I am confused on the car in driveway vs. garage. It has been suggested that TW saw the car in the driveway and Maytee confirmed that? Ok, so if the car was in the driveway all along then why would TW think that JC and LS had gone to her house? Didn't she say that she drove by LS's house and then went back to her (TW) house to see if they went there?

And throwing my 2 cents into how the perps got into the house....maybe JC and LS parked wherever since it still isn't clear, and ran into the house long enough for LS to change (leaving the garage door up) and when they were walking back out (while on the phone with TW) they were ambushed and forced back into the house.

I grew up in this neighborhood. It is common to see garage doors open all the time which leads me to believe that they left it open because they were just stopping there for a few minutes.

[onefortheroad]

the tatt says his mothers name, he would get into fights with his mom, just like alot of the 20 and 21 year old kids out here, he lived with maggy the aunt in his younger yrs, his dad did time for the truck bust but did get out early not sure about m but she was said to be in a gang in younger years, word was she was a snitch so someone could have tried to get her back, as for the girl on fb she use to date the jc a few years back but she moved out of state and all they were was friends, i heard she flew back when all this happened, pretty sure she said that to the person on here that met her, i knew her family and they moved 1200 miles away around 3 or 4 yrs ago, so i think jc was only with ls.

i would think that if either of JC's parents were snitches, that they would most likely be the targets of revenge. then again, they say there is nothing worse that losing a child.....

it seems that the perps were almost definitely connected to JC or LS's inner circle and knew about the house-sitting situation, and siezed that opportunity.

also, i think that the late teens/ early 20's years are rampant for craziness and drama. all these kids are finding their way in the world and doing new things and unfortunately some of these things are incredibly horrible things.

i don't think it's right to directly blame video games and violent tv shows and movies, but when you combine them with drugs, poverty, desperation, no regard for decency nor humanity, thugism, eminem wannabe's, etc. and crazy ass shit seems to happen.......

I totally DO blame them for desensitizing kids to violence, especially kids growing up in less than ideal homes and environments.

[onefortheroad]

Right. And she knew JC because her friend Sarita's BF was friends with JC.

Ok, so she was friends w/JC first, but were they "friends" or did they just know one another? Friends shop together, go to the bar together, and have lunch together, etc. None of her pics on FB have JC or LS in them. This girl obviously likes to party and if she was "friends" with them, you would think they would be in at least one of the very many pics she has posted. I'm thinking they were not so much of friends as she would like people to believe. Why is this important? Because she doesn't know LS or the Straubs well enough to feel guilty for the set up or robbery.

I'm tending to think that they were only acquaintances who had done drugs or drug deals together on a couple occasions.

[catch22]

I have just read through about 30 pages of this so forgive me if I am not clear on what I have read.

I am confused on the car in driveway vs. garage. It has been suggested that TW saw the car in the driveway and Maytee confirmed that? Ok, so if the car was in the driveway all along then why would TW think that JC and LS had gone to her house? Didn't she say that she drove by LS's house and then went back to her (TW) house to see if they went there?

And throwing my 2 cents into how the perps got into the house....maybe JC and LS parked wherever since it still isn't clear, and ran into the house long enough for LS to change (leaving the garage door up) and when they were walking back out (while on the phone with TW) they were ambushed and forced back into the house.

I grew up in this neighborhood. It is common to see garage doors open all the time which leads me to believe that they left it open because they were just stopping there for a few minutes.

excellent deduction. another possible hole in her story?

i'm still not 100% convinced that lisa's car was in the driveway, despite what was said on the 911 calls. maytee seems to have a way of not getting facts straight for some reason. could in the garage/in the driveway be interchangeable to her? i wonder if they could have seen into the garage to see her car, or are there no windows?

[Adub]

ahhh....so what's with using all the 3's in some writing? I think TW's death space page was like this.

I found it interesting too that DC and his friends are wearing blue in each of their photos yet in many of TWs FB posts she says things like "wat up blood?" I don't know anything about this stuff, so it may be nothing, but TW also had a video posted at one time on DS that was called Blood Walk or something to that effect.

Bloods use 3 instead of c(rips). C is the 3^rd letter of the alphabet. Hence the 3.

[rotten_cotton]

I have just read through about 30 pages of this so forgive me if I am not clear on what I have read.

I am confused on the car in driveway vs. garage. It has been suggested that TW saw the car in the driveway and Maytee confirmed that? Ok, so if the car was in the driveway all along then why would TW think that JC and LS had gone to her house? Didn't she say that she drove by LS's house and then went back to her (TW) house to see if they went there?

And throwing my 2 cents into how the perps got into the house....maybe JC and LS parked wherever since it still isn't clear, and ran into the house long enough for LS to change (leaving the garage door up) and when they were walking back out (while on the phone with TW) they were ambushed and forced back into the house.

I grew up in this neighborhood. It is common to see garage doors open all the time which leads me to believe that they left it open because they were just stopping there for a few minutes.

excellent deduction. another possible hole in her story?

i'm still not 100% convinced that lisa's car was in the driveway, despite what was said on the 911 calls. maytee seems to have a way of not getting facts straight for some reason. could in the garage/in the driveway be interchangeable to her? i wonder if they could have seen into the garage to see her car, or are there no windows?

there are 3 small windows on the front of the garage that i can see from looking @ google maps.

[kitty1]

I have just read through about 30 pages of this so forgive me if I am not clear on what I have read.

I am confused on the car in driveway vs. garage. It has been suggested that TW saw the car in the driveway and Maytee confirmed that? Ok, so if the car was in the driveway all along then why would TW think that JC and LS had gone to her house? Didn't she say that she drove by LS's house and then went back to her (TW) house to see if they went there?

And throwing my 2 cents into how the perps got into the house....maybe JC and LS parked wherever since it still isn't clear, and ran into the house long enough for LS to change (leaving the garage door up) and when they were walking back out (while on the phone with TW) they were ambushed and forced back into the house.

I grew up in this neighborhood. It is common to see garage doors open all the time which leads me to believe that they left it open because they were just stopping there for a few minutes.

Very interesting!!! TW clearly states that after she first went to LS's house that she drove back home to see if they might be there(cuz that's where they were supposedly headed) Well, if the car was in the driveway then she would have no reason to think they weren't there at LS's. Sol either TW is lying(imagine that) or the car was in the garage. Just a thought!!!

[NightOwl]

Spotted this on Facebook one of Lisa's friends and also a friend of BD wonder what the "sum" is?




"iam tired of answerinn my phonee and herin bad newss.. godd what did she doo..the last words she said to me wass thankss be safee and ill call you tonight if me and johhny do sum..i saidd ok both yal be saafee. have a good nightt.. r.i.p lisaa like my liil sis"
January 31 at 12:44pm via Mobile Web.



"my word of advice for yall ...chill out"

February 1 at 12:01pm via Mobile Web.














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[rotten_cotton]

Spotted this on Facebook one of Lisa's friends and also a friend of BD wonder what the "sum" is?




"iam tired of answerinn my phonee and herin bad newss.. godd what did she doo..the last words she said to me wass thankss be safee and ill call you tonight if me and johhny do sum..i saidd ok both yal be saafee. have a good nightt.. r.i.p lisaa like my liil sis"
January 31 at 12:44pm via Mobile Web.



"my word of advice for yall ...chill out"

February 1 at 12:01pm via Mobile Web.














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The way I read that was "sum" meant "something", like if they went out.

[DickTracy]

The minor friend that TW was with that night is friends with JC's Aunt on fb.. (someone correct me if I am wrong).

[JustSayin...]

I don't think she was smart enough to text and call, but I think her friends who are all robbery experts (according to their rap sheets) have been around the block enough to know what needs to happen to establish an alilbi. She was coached. A willing participant, but coached (IMHO).

Bottom line is that if TW is innocent of any involvement, she needs to stop playing games and state the REAL reason she was meeting/hanging out/talking to JC that night. She makes no quams about posting things like "Let him flip a lil money first" on her FB page, and making it very well known that she's ready to "get down" and "beat dat ass" even at 4 months prego. She is thug enough to put her business out there on FB, so why not here. Its not like they can take her kids away or anything. IMO TW was there to buy or sell from JC. If it was a mere business transaction and nothing more, than say so! It will end a lot of confustion and maybe give her a little more credibility since she won't be so worried about trying to fill in the gaps of her story.

I do not think we can blame TW for the way she acts. She is a product of her environment. Of a crappy city that is one of the "most miserable places to live" according to a recent survey.

Just for the record. Toledo is not the horrible city it is portrayed as in the media. There are rough neighborhoods, and great neighborhoods. Some of the nicest areas are in the South End. Plenty of families are raising good, intelligent, law abiding citizens in Toledo. There is no excuse for B&E and armed robbery!!!

[Adub]

The minor friend that TW was with that night is friends with JC's Aunt on fb.. (someone correct me if I am wrong).

Aunt Maggie? She does have a son about the right age. Which would be Johnny's primo or cuz depending. So I would not be surprised. But I have not seen ZBs fb.

[shitstorm]

Spotted this on Facebook one of Lisa's friends and also a friend of BD wonder what the "sum" is?




"iam tired of answerinn my phonee and herin bad newss.. godd what did she doo..the last words she said to me wass thankss be safee and ill call you tonight if me and johhny do sum..i saidd ok both yal be saafee. have a good nightt.. r.i.p lisaa like my liil sis"
January 31 at 12:44pm via Mobile Web.



"my word of advice for yall ...chill out"

February 1 at 12:01pm via Mobile Web.














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Link?

[KarmaK]

I have heard of people say shoot a game of pool when asking a dealer for an eightball of cocaine

I'm sure that pool is code for drugs, and wish to hell I could remember where I read it! Does it only mean cocaine though? Could it also mean heroin?

Just looked it up on the drug slang dictionary and an eightball can refer to coke, crack, and heroin.

[shitstorm]

I don't know how in the hell you guys keep all of these initials and FB pages & friends straight.

[kitty1]

I don't know how in the hell you guys keep all of these initials and FB pages & friends straight.

thanks!!!! I really needed someone else to feel the same. It makes me feel old.:wheelchair:

[kitty1]

I don't know how in the hell you guys keep all of these initials and FB pages & friends straight.

Thanks!! I really needed someone else to feel the same way. It makes me feel old! :wheelchair::wheelchair: