Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Adub]

I just want to say that I enjoy reading here. I like the freedom a lot. But speaking as a newbie, some of ya'll seem to read something, some comment or info, and then go with it as if it were fact. I tend to keep a more open mind realizing that some comments may have an agenda all their own. And some comments are just made up bullshit. But it's all good. I just wish I had a better understanding of how the gangs operate in Toledo. So whoever said that AP was one of Corrigan's buddies? Where did that come from? Because I am not seeing that.

There was an old Myspace (?) page of Donald's that had a photo album called "Free my Niggas"....there he had many pictures of his niggas/fellow thugs/friends whatever.
In these photos were AP, and I think there may have been a couple other photos out there of them together if I remember correctly.
This was maaaaaany posts back <<<<< though.

I do remember seeing that. Wasn't it from somekind of magazine or online publication? The photos were part of an article? And some of the individuals in the mugshots may have been someone's "niggas" but does that mean they all were? I bet they did know each other, I just don't know how tight they were.

[onefortheroad]

I just want to say that I enjoy reading here. I like the freedom a lot. But speaking as a newbie, some of ya'll seem to read something, some comment or info, and then go with it as if it were fact. I tend to keep a more open mind realizing that some comments may have an agenda all their own. And some comments are just made up bullshit. But it's all good. I just wish I had a better understanding of how the gangs operate in Toledo. So whoever said that AP was one of Corrigan's buddies? Where did that come from? Because I am not seeing that.

Do you mean AP (Aaron)? I get confused about what to call him. He and Corrigan were arrested together. If I can find a link, I'll PM you.

Sent it

[Countryside_Belle]

I still feel strongly that this was an INTENDED murder. ...for what could be a million different reasons.
But INTENDED for sure. imo

[Countryside_Belle]

Hey EastCoast- any word on if we can post the Donald/AP pics or links yet?
Hi LC!

[EastCoastKat]

I just want to say that I enjoy reading here. I like the freedom a lot. But speaking as a newbie, some of ya'll seem to read something, some comment or info, and then go with it as if it were fact. I tend to keep a more open mind realizing that some comments may have an agenda all their own. And some comments are just made up bullshit. But it's all good. I just wish I had a better understanding of how the gangs operate in Toledo. So whoever said that AP was one of Corrigan's buddies? Where did that come from? Because I am not seeing that.

There was an old Myspace (?) page of Donald's that had a photo album called "Free my Niggas"....there he had many pictures of his niggas/fellow thugs/friends whatever.
In these photos were AP, and I think there may have been a couple other photos out there of them together if I remember correctly.
This was maaaaaany posts back <<<<< though.

Here is that myspace page with the Free my niggas.

http://www.myspace.com/don_da_boss/photos

[kfran]

Would there be a point for coroner to do a toxicology report on JC & LS?
As far as TW being a heroin dealer, she surely doesn't use as she's a chunky monkey. It's hard to tell from physical appearances in the photos I've seen from FB w/JC & LS, but they look like healthy people. I guess that's one plus of percocet addiction, one doesn't look like they would if they were addicted to meth. Was JC also considered a user?

[onefortheroad]

I still feel strongly that this was an INTENDED murder. ...for what could be a million different reasons.
But INTENDED for sure. imo

I'm sure it was too, and I also feel that Johnny and/or his parents was meant to suffer. Otherwise, I think they would have been shot or stabbed.

[EastCoastKat]

Hey EastCoast- any word on if we can post the Donald/AP pics or links yet?
Hi LC!

I posted a link to Donald's myspace but I want to post that picture with him and AP/AG holding the gun and the mouth full of money. And the picture of all of them together on the street but nothing yet...so I just posted the one link..

[Countryside_Belle]

I just want to say that I enjoy reading here. I like the freedom a lot. But speaking as a newbie, some of ya'll seem to read something, some comment or info, and then go with it as if it were fact. I tend to keep a more open mind realizing that some comments may have an agenda all their own. And some comments are just made up bullshit. But it's all good. I just wish I had a better understanding of how the gangs operate in Toledo. So whoever said that AP was one of Corrigan's buddies? Where did that come from? Because I am not seeing that.

There was an old Myspace (?) page of Donald's that had a photo album called "Free my Niggas"....there he had many pictures of his niggas/fellow thugs/friends whatever.
In these photos were AP, and I think there may have been a couple other photos out there of them together if I remember correctly.
This was maaaaaany posts back <<<<< though.

Here is that myspace page with the Free my niggas.

http://www.myspace.com/don_da_boss/photos

Thanks EASTCOAST! Noitice how AP's pic in donald's photo line up says "Free my BRO". I think that pretty much says they were close.

[Jane]

just listened to the 911 call again. Maytee says "the car is in the driveway".. she's says it twice

edited to add - it's where you can tell Maytee is getting pissed off w/the dispatcher ... Lisa's car WAS in the driveway

Well I guess its the driveway then thanks

definately in the driveway, per Maytee & Tiffany, so far.

"Miss Straub's car was in the garage, and it did not appear they had gone out at all that evening, she said." Post #1 of this thread.

THANK YOU!!!! Geeez, why on earth would TW AND Maytee say the car was in "the driveway" ??? I'm going with it being in the garage too, since that's what Stooksbury said. Again, thank you, EastCoast!

[onefortheroad]

Hey EastCoast- any word on if we can post the Donald/AP pics or links yet?
Hi LC!

I posted a link to Donald's myspace but I want to post that picture with him and AP/AG holding the gun and the mouth full of money. And the picture of all of them together on the street but nothing yet...so I just posted the one link..

Are the other pics at the same link?

[Jane]

ahhh....so what's with using all the 3's in some writing? I think TW's death space page was like this.

I found it interesting too that DC and his friends are wearing blue in each of their photos yet in many of TWs FB posts she says things like "wat up blood?" I don't know anything about this stuff, so it may be nothing, but TW also had a video posted at one time on DS that was called Blood Walk or something to that effect.

Bloods use 3 instead of c(rips). C is the 3^rd letter of the alphabet. Hence the 3.

I thought the "3" was in place of "E." It appears that way in all of TW posts.

that's how i was reading it as well, KFRAN

Same here. Lots of kids use the 3 as an E

[Duchess]

When I still lived in my parents home & they would go out of town, I wouldn't invite just anyone & their brother over, I reserved my invitations for my closets friends...someone in their inner circle was aware Lisa's parents were out of town & were vocal about it, whether intentional or not, they were betrayed by someone close to them...Of course this opinion could change within an hour depending on what I read here.

[Adub]

Hey EastCoast- any word on if we can post the Donald/AP pics or links yet?
Hi LC!

I posted a link to Donald's myspace but I want to post that picture with him and AP/AG holding the gun and the mouth full of money. And the picture of all of them together on the street but nothing yet...so I just posted the one link..

Thanks. Now I'm going to have to take a few steps back, lol. And I believe you about the pics, the discription is enough. Just one question. Who is wearing what color?

[EastCoastKat]

I just want to say that I enjoy reading here. I like the freedom a lot. But speaking as a newbie, some of ya'll seem to read something, some comment or info, and then go with it as if it were fact. I tend to keep a more open mind realizing that some comments may have an agenda all their own. And some comments are just made up bullshit. But it's all good. I just wish I had a better understanding of how the gangs operate in Toledo. So whoever said that AP was one of Corrigan's buddies? Where did that come from? Because I am not seeing that.

There was an old Myspace (?) page of Donald's that had a photo album called "Free my Niggas"....there he had many pictures of his niggas/fellow thugs/friends whatever.
In these photos were AP, and I think there may have been a couple other photos out there of them together if I remember correctly.
This was maaaaaany posts back <<<<< though.

Here is that myspace page with the Free my niggas.

http://www.myspace.com/don_da_boss/photos

Thanks EASTCOAST! Noitice how AP's pic in donald's photo line up says "Free my BRO". I think that pretty much says they were close.

Yep! These people don't play....I don't know why others don't believe that?? To think that TW doesn't know more is absolutely idiotic, she is pregnant by one (well maybe could be ZB's) and she has kids with the other dead one...Come on...not to even mention her rapsheet. And now I am really wondering about that other girl too, the one that was with JC before he left to go pick up LS, VD's girlfriend B, she is up in everybody's shit, she friends with all of them, of course not with LS. LS fell into a wad of shit with this group, way, way over her head. JMO

[Jane]

I don't know how in the hell you guys keep all of these initials and FB pages & friends straight.

Thanks!! I really needed someone else to feel the same way. It makes me feel old! :wheelchair::wheelchair:

you don't have to use initials for people whose names are public information! i've been wondering why everyone has been! that would be another forum out there.
people NOT named in mainstream media, principals to case, or minors, yes we are leaving their names out. the major players, yes, use their names. it's coy to do otherwise.

:B i may repeat this a couple times today.

lol, I'll start using the real names, then. I get lazy, so instead of typing out Johnny & Lisa, I got into a habit, lol .... I will start using their names. Didn't think of it as being coy, but you are right!

[kfran]

Hey EastCoast- any word on if we can post the Donald/AP pics or links yet?
Hi LC!

I posted a link to Donald's myspace but I want to post that picture with him and AP/AG holding the gun and the mouth full of money. And the picture of all of them together on the street but nothing yet...so I just posted the one link..

Thanks. Now I'm going to have to take a few steps back, lol. And I believe you about the pics, the discription is enough. Just one question. Who is wearing what color?

There's a lot of black. But I believe it's Donald in one photo that has on black t w/red hoodie & hat. So who knows!

[TotallyCurious]

If I thought I was going to steal something I would not take a briefcase.
I would not take a wheel borrow. I would not take a rolling garbage can
to put in my car. I would not take a suitcase. I would take bags which
I could secure well with tape, sling over my shoulder and effect an
easy 'get away." That is my thought about the bags. They would easily
carry drugs, bricks of..... money, supplies, cash.

Pan to normal looking guy....

'Cause that is what I was looking for.
I am good at it and have done it before. No one is gonna get
hurt, UNLESS we get orders to ice them once we are in there. Orders would
come because the informant gave bogus information about this
scene. They owe him big now, if nothing is here, They wasted his time.
If they have lied, they will pay.

And the informants had the security system cut off by the way.

We go in following the kids through the door. "Hey kid, where is
the safe, where is the shit? Shit - that is nothing what we were
expecting. This is sixth grade party shit. Your relative said you have it.
Where is it - the real stuff we were told you were carrying?" Boom
Crash Boom. "Tie him up." "Who is this pretty lady? Tie her up."

"Where is the safe?" Informant said there is big shit here. Where
is it? Boom boom. Secure them more so we can hunt.'

Upstairs: Drawers yanked, room trashed, holes punched. Tempers
flare. Shhh. Someone is knocking on the door. Good they are gone.

More trashing. Tempers steam. Call to Boss. "Nothing. absolutely
nothing." " Yeah the kid is here and he has baby shit. Got a girl with
him." Ok. Ok.

To the boy " Sorry jerk. Here is your phone - Call Relative and
ask them where the shit is. Tell them we have you naked in the basement
and tied with towels and are gonna OFF you if they dont tell us where
the money is. " "They are not cooperative eh??" Calls boss. OK man.

Grabs phone from boy - tosses it to the floor and it shatters .

"They lied to X. He says go ahead with the revenge. Make it clean/
No mess. You know what that means. OK. "

"Do it. And let's get the hell out of here. What a F..K.UP assignment.
"That member really musta did our man bad.

[Jane]

Am I the only that finds it very strange that a couple is murdered inside of the girlfriends parents home....and out of 6-billion people in the world, the people who actually find them dead just happens to be the boyfriend's parents...hmm. I find it hard to believe that they are so much smarter than trained officers. And as far as Maytee having special powers...please! She is as about clairvoyant as Oprah Winfrey is a Lounge singer.
Another thing: why did the parents convienently catch two separate rides over to the house instead of driving one of their vans. It is odd that Maytee had to call her cousin in the middle of the night to come and pick her up to drive her over to the house...instead of driving herself. And if you listen to the very first 9-11 call...Maytee is able to tell the operator the exact adress of the house, it is a four digit address. I'll bet that there aren't a lot of people who know the exact address of their own parents home...yet alone their son's girlfriends parents house. it is clear that Maytee knows more than what she is saying....I sure hope that investigators don't screw this up.

I have to agree. When you put everything together, something just seems 'off'.

[Wish.I.was.a.P.I]

The problem is (IMO) there are so many FB friends of friends of friends that are connected that there is no way you can determine anything going off who's friends with who. Believe me, I have creeped on so many of this one and that one that I could fill up a flow chart the size of Ohio with connections. What I have observed is this, at one point in time, the friends that TW had while she was with/around Donald aren't too close to her anymore. She admits that after Donald died she had an addiction to percocets but was planning to get her life back together again. She has 3 kids, not living with her, all from different dads, 2 of which she had very young and one as you all know is Donalds and is currently prego with AP/AG's. She seems to have ok correspondence with the other daddys. I don't see anything proving that she was friends/close or even knew Johnny and/or back when she was with Donald but I'm sure they were aware of each other as both crowds know one or more friends of friends but clearly TW's crowd is tough/gang related/bad guys. They may have been bloods but I've seen alot of "goon" talk...is there a gang named goons? or is that a gang member term?

Interesting is that Lisa's co-workers hardly knew Johnny..they loved her, thought she was happy but "didn't know her BF". Unfortuantely, I have not been able to find anything about RR, Johnny's best friend other than his family loved Johnny like another son. Also, some of the FB people you guys have mentioned on here (475 entertainment) have their own problems with other people it seems so just beaware that even though they have all the right info in their profiles doesn't mean they have anything to do with this case..not that I know for sure but according to the info I found they have enough problems elsewhere.

couple notes, ZB (if it's even the right ZB) works very close to the area, TGIF is (according to google) approximately 10 min, maybe 20 with traffic (someone familiar with the area would know better )away from Lisa's house...so if she got off at 10:00, and was still in her uniform at 11:00 (according to TW being on the phone with Johnny), that's an interesting timeline.

I have so much more to write but don't have time. I'm hoping there really was an arrest..my husband can't take me on this case much more. haha. I look forward to posts later this afternoon when I get home.