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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-19-2011, 09:59 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 09:57 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: we are getting really far afield here with speculating about the facebook pages of totally unrelated people.
Not sure what you're referring to as fb pages of "totally unrelated people." I think that part of what is so fascinating about this case is trying to figure out how these people are all connected and how those connections could possibly play into a motive or connection....
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gee. i guess we could keep the private messages private.

















































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(02-19-2011, 10:15 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: Thanks for the pm Concerned.

I know the family although not close to the family
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With the numerous pages to read about this case can't some of the conversations about peoples web pages that cant be posted be taken to Private messages so we dont have to wade through them LC?
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(02-19-2011, 10:18 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 09:59 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 09:57 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: we are getting really far afield here with speculating about the facebook pages of totally unrelated people.
Not sure what you're referring to as fb pages of "totally unrelated people." I think that part of what is so fascinating about this case is trying to figure out how these people are all connected and how those connections could possibly play into a motive or connection....

i mean that if you had been here long enough, you'd know that completely innocent people unconnected to this case have been implicated vis-a-vis having names similar to names on facebook pages.


















































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(02-19-2011, 09:59 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 09:57 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: we are getting really far afield here with speculating about the facebook pages of totally unrelated people.

Multi talk
please stop
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(02-19-2011, 10:20 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: With the numerous pages to read about this case can't some of the conversations about peoples web pages that cant be posted be taken to Private messages so we dont have to wade through them LC?

see post 4982 above yours. Smiley_emoticons_smile


















































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LC Given your experience, what would be happening in the Police
Department at this stage of the investigation? Is it completely
active, or just a bit of time put on it each day? I know each case and
each PD is different, but what would be your own approach at this
stage?
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(02-19-2011, 10:20 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: With the numerous pages to read about this case can't some of the conversations about peoples web pages that cant be posted be taken to Private messages so we dont have to wade through them LC?

sorry i wrote that before i was caught up and i see it was addressed thanks LC
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(02-19-2011, 03:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Picture of Tiffany's dead boyfriend Donald (with money and guy) and her new boyfriend AG. This is part of her crew. Click on picture to enlarge.

The dude with the money and the gun is not Donald. That's AP in the middle, though.
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(02-19-2011, 10:22 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: LC Given your experience, what would be happening in the Police
Department at this stage of the investigation? Is it completely
active, or just a bit of time put on it each day? I know each case and
each PD is different, but what would be your own approach at this
stage?

absolutely active, waiting for ALL forensics, organizing a case file to present to DA and then Grand Jury for indictment(s)/arrest(s) if warranted by the evidence.



















































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(02-19-2011, 10:26 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 10:22 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: LC Given your experience, what would be happening in the Police
Department at this stage of the investigation? Is it completely
active, or just a bit of time put on it each day? I know each case and
each PD is different, but what would be your own approach at this
stage?

LC:absolutely active, waiting for ALL forensics, organizing a case file to present to DA and then Grand Jury for indictment(s)/arrest(s) if warranted by the evidence.



concerned:
Big fan of this... FBI profiling
1.The process this approach uses to determine offender characteristics involves, first, an assimilation phase where all information available in regard to the crime scene, victim, and witnesses is examined.[5] This may include photographs of the crime scene, autopsy reports, victim profiles, police reports, and witness statements.
2.The next phase, the "classification stage", involves integrating the information collected into a framework which essentially classifies the murderer as "organized" or "disorganized". Organized murderers are thought to have advanced social skills, plan their crimes, display control over the victim using social skills, leave little forensic evidence or clues, and often engage in sexual acts with the victim before the murder.[6] In contrast, the disorganized offender is described as impulsive, with few social skills, such that his/her murders are opportunistic and crime scenes suggest frenzied, haphazard behavior and a lack of planning or attempts to avoid detection. They might engage in sexual acts after the murder, because they lack knowledge of normal sexual behavior.[7]
3.Following the classification stage profilers attempt to reconstruct the behavioral sequence of the crime, in particular, attempting to reconstruct the offender's modus operandi or method of committing the crime.[8]
4.Profilers also examine closely the offender's “signature” which is identifiable from the crime scene and is more idiosyncratic than the modus operandi—the signature is what the offender does to satisfy his psychological needs in committing the crime.[9]
5.From further consideration of the modus operandi, the offender's signature at the crime scene, and also an inspection for the presence of any staging of the crime, the profiler moves on to generate a profile. This profile may contain detailed information regarding the offender's demographic characteristics, family characteristics, military background, education, personality characteristics, and it may also suggest appropriate interview techniques.[8]

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(02-19-2011, 10:26 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 10:22 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: LC Given your experience, what would be happening in the Police
Department at this stage of the investigation? Is it completely
active, or just a bit of time put on it each day? I know each case and
each PD is different, but what would be your own approach at this
stage?

absolutely active, waiting for ALL forensics, organizing a case file to present to DA and then Grand Jury for indictment(s)/arrest(s) if warranted by the evidence.

Hey LC, should the DNA results be coming in anytime soon?
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(02-19-2011, 10:28 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 10:26 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 10:22 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: LC Given your experience, what would be happening in the Police
Department at this stage of the investigation? Is it completely
active, or just a bit of time put on it each day? I know each case and
each PD is different, but what would be your own approach at this
stage?

absolutely active, waiting for ALL forensics, organizing a case file to present to DA and then Grand Jury for indictment(s)/arrest(s) if warranted by the evidence.

Hey LC, should the DNA results be coming in anytime soon?

i believe it all went to FBI lab. it depends on the priority that was put upon it by them.


















































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Not to keep bringin up the facebook pages.... BUTTTT as I was looking at TW fb page, LS wrote her a message on her wall Jan21 asking for her phone number... I find it awfully strange LS and JC just met TW and all of a sudden something like this happens...
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(02-19-2011, 10:19 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: gee. i guess we could keep the private messages private.

Sorry LC, just wanted it out there that I had possibly made a mistake on the I.D. for anyone I may have misinformed.
Point takenOops
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(02-19-2011, 10:31 PM)stoof725 Wrote: Not to keep bringin up the facebook pages.... BUTTTT as I was looking at TW fb page, LS wrote her a message on her wall Jan21 asking for her phone number... I find it awfully strange LS and JC just met TW and all of a sudden something like this happens...

that's fine. that is relevant.


















































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(02-19-2011, 04:00 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 03:48 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 03:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Picture of Tiffany's dead boyfriend Donald (with money and guy) and her new boyfriend AG. This is part of her crew. Click on picture to enlarge.

I do not see Corrigan. I see AP and his brother MattY?

Yes, you're right- I just see AP and Matty in the first pic.
I thought there was another one floating around somewhere on ms of them though....
Can you imagine writing "Don's widow" on the ass of your jeans?! lmfao

lol

How did you guys figure out the name of Matty?

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(02-19-2011, 10:35 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 04:00 PM)Countryside_Belle Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 03:48 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-19-2011, 03:45 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Picture of Tiffany's dead boyfriend Donald (with money and guy) and her new boyfriend AG. This is part of her crew. Click on picture to enlarge.

I do not see Corrigan. I see AP and his brother MattY?
See 475 productions on FB
Yes, you're right- I just see AP and Matty in the first pic.
I thought there was another one floating around somewhere on ms of them though....
Can you imagine writing "Don's widow" on the ass of your jeans?! lmfao

lol

How did you guys figure out the name of Matty?

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so i know we've decided that some of the possible players in this are maybe affiliated with gang(s). my question is, do we know if johnny has had any gang affiliations present or past? i know it's been brought up before but i don't recall whether or not it's really been said that we think he has or has not.
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