Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Momforlife]

can someone post her facebook page here. I tried to find it, but do you know how many tiffany williams there are on fb? Let me tell you... A lot!

[onefortheroad]

I just joined this page today, and I am hoping someone can bring me up to date, so I don't have to read 358 pages of postings... I heard T was arrested? Is that the case? Was her boyfriend part of this? In a nutshell... can someone bring me up to date? Please???

I haven't checked her FB page. When did she last post on it? Anyone know?

i noticed earlier that she hasn't posted to FB since wed. night. sounds like there has not been an arrest but maybe her inactivity has people talking and rumors starting.

aaah, could be! I was just reading her last post, wednesday night. To a guy, wondering why he hadn't called her back. Telling him to call her.

I think that guy is one of her baby daddies.

[Jane]

I just joined this page today, and I am hoping someone can bring me up to date, so I don't have to read 358 pages of postings... I heard T was arrested? Is that the case? Was her boyfriend part of this? In a nutshell... can someone bring me up to date? Please???

I haven't checked her FB page. When did she last post on it? Anyone know?

It is a three hour read from the beginning. You will enjoy it!

i think it would take me about 20 hours to read it. and i might not be very pleasant to be around when i finished......

is there anywhere i can get this thread on tape or the cliff notes?

LMAO @on tape!!!!!

[Love Hippos]

LC, if you haven't done so already, would you mind telling us if you still believe Tiffany's phone call was a red herring?

Thanks.

[shitstorm]

this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth

Which means they told someone. Maytee knew it. Tiffany knew it.

[concerned]

as of this moment, there is no Lucas Co. booking info for a Tiffany Williams.

Howabout for someone named "rid3z hard for thi3r biyatchs"

there's 37 of those.
LC when listeing to the scanner what codes would we be listening for? IYO

Oh LadyCop, I miss when this thread was 20 pages & I could read & re-read & remember what I'd read! I'm not sure we're any further along in what we know 350+ pages later

we're going around and around and shoveling shit against the tide because of a 100% news blackout so we have nothing new to dissect/discuss. the meat of this case IS in the early pages.
when there is news, this place will explode.

[Jane]

I just joined this page today, and I am hoping someone can bring me up to date, so I don't have to read 358 pages of postings... I heard T was arrested? Is that the case? Was her boyfriend part of this? In a nutshell... can someone bring me up to date? Please???

I haven't checked her FB page. When did she last post on it? Anyone know?

i noticed earlier that she hasn't posted to FB since wed. night. sounds like there has not been an arrest but maybe her inactivity has people talking and rumors starting.

aaah, could be! I was just reading her last post, wednesday night. To a guy, wondering why he hadn't called her back. Telling him to call her.

I think that guy is one of her baby daddies.

aaah, ok

[Lady Cop]

can someone post her facebook page here. I tried to find it, but do you know how many tiffany williams there are on fb? Let me tell you... A lot!

http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only

[rotten_cotton]

This place has been busy while I was at work! I have a few things to comment on but there's no way I can find the posts to quote. That being said....

I think Tiff's pants say Donald's Wifey not widow. Irrelevant, I know.

If it is true that Johnny said "bro, what are you doing here" then "who are you" it almost sounds as if there were two perps. I think the "what are you doing here" was in reference to someone he knew that had found out where he was and shown up. Then the "who are you" was in reference to the other perp that was unknown to Johnny that had come for backup to the person Johnny knew. Possibly someone Johnny had snitched on.

And finally, the neighborhood gossip....it has been said that Lisa was hit in the head with a baseball bat. Again, GOSSIP.

[Lady Cop]

LC, if you haven't done so already, would you mind telling us if you still believe Tiffany's phone call was a red herring?

Thanks.

yes, i mentioned that earlier this evening. i haven't changed my thinking.
hard to keep up, i know.

[Love Hippos]

LC, if you haven't done so already, would you mind telling us if you still believe Tiffany's phone call was a red herring?

Thanks.

yes, i mentioned that earlier this evening. i haven't changed my thinking.
hard to keep up, i know.

Thanks. I guess I skipped a few pages getting up to speed this evening.

[HeartBreaker]

I just joined this page today, and I am hoping someone can bring me up to date, so I don't have to read 358 pages of postings... I heard T was arrested? Is that the case? Was her boyfriend part of this? In a nutshell... can someone bring me up to date? Please???

I haven't checked her FB page. When did she last post on it? Anyone know?

i noticed earlier that she hasn't posted to FB since wed. night. sounds like there has not been an arrest but maybe her inactivity has people talking and rumors starting.

aaah, could be! I was just reading her last post, wednesday night. To a guy, wondering why he hadn't called her back. Telling him to call her.

YES, jane! i noticed that as well. could be interesting. could be nothing. but, i did make a little mental note. i don't think it was anyone whose name has been tossed around in here.

[Jane]

this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth

Which means they told someone. Maytee knew it. Tiffany knew it.

Yep, & just a guess, but I'll say Johnny mentioned it to friends, maybe the ones he visited that day/evening, before he picked Lisa up from work. Lisa may have told some girlfriends too ?

[Wish.I.was.a.P.I]

I just joined this page today, and I am hoping someone can bring me up to date, so I don't have to read 358 pages of postings... I heard T was arrested? Is that the case? Was her boyfriend part of this? In a nutshell... can someone bring me up to date? Please???

I haven't checked her FB page. When did she last post on it? Anyone know?

i noticed earlier that she hasn't posted to FB since wed. night. sounds like there has not been an arrest but maybe her inactivity has people talking and rumors starting.

aaah, could be! I was just reading her last post, wednesday night. To a guy, wondering why he hadn't called her back. Telling him to call her.

YES, jane! i noticed that as well. could be interesting. could be nothing. but, i did make a little mental note. i don't think it was anyone whose name has been tossed around in here.

I also noticed it but on Wednesday night when she first posted it because 1. It was when she was answering questions on here (supposidly) and 2. she says I need to talk to you. Maybe nothing but found the timing interesting.

[concerned]

I just joined this page today, and I am hoping someone can bring me up to date, so I don't have to read 358 pages of postings... I heard T was arrested? Is that the case? Was her boyfriend part of this? In a nutshell... can someone bring me up to date? Please???

I haven't checked her FB page. When did she last post on it? Anyone know?

She posted her daily horoscope an hour ago

i noticed earlier that she hasn't posted to FB since wed. night. sounds like there has not been an arrest but maybe her inactivity has people talking and rumors starting.

aaah, could be! I was just reading her last post, wednesday night. To a guy, wondering why he hadn't called her back. Telling him to call her.

I think that guy is one of her baby daddies.

[Methusala]

I suppose this case could be gang related but it is important to know that Toledo gangs are not the serious "ride or die" gangs like they have in LA or Compton. Mostly just little white kids trying to be "gangsta".

Toledo is a dirty little hell hole. At least the location I grew up there. I grew up on the south side and attended the same high school that Johnny attended. If you ever get the chance to visit Toledo, quickly punch the person in the face who gave you the opportunity, and RUN!

You lived in and went to Bowsher district? I'm curious what area of that you found a hell hole. Just curious. I'm glad for you if you are happy where you are now.

It's all a matter of perspective and memory. Remember what Gloria Steinem wrote about Toledo. Many people including myself disagreed with her, but that's the way she saw it even back then.

[Lady Cop]

i think everybody should go read the rest of my forum, only 8 pages of interesting cases. heh


http://mockforums.net/forum-21.html

[sharit]

just on WTVG. Could be related....TOLEDO, Ohio (WTVG) -- Toledo police nabbed over two dozen people in a drug sweep this week.

Police say 28 adults and one juvenile were arrested during "Operation Dirty Boy III," which was held this week in honor of fallen detective Keith Dressel.

Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.

well hopefully one of them know something and will give up information for a lesser sentence.

[Jane]

can someone post her facebook page here. I tried to find it, but do you know how many tiffany williams there are on fb? Let me tell you... A lot!

http://www.myspace.com/dat1an_only

This may have been discussed, but that link will take you to her mother's myspace too, if you read the comments. I was like, whoa!

[sharit]

this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth

These are on the board:
"johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there. " Post 3098

"i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify. " Post 3111

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Read these post anyway you want, BUT IF YOU THINK THAT THE LAST WORDS OUT OF SOMEONE'S MOUTH ISN'T IMPORTANT...I don't know what to tell ya. All I know is what I thought and still do! Her parents left on Friday this is Sunday night

that's why I'm not sure if he really knew them or not. "bro, wut are you doing?" doesn't tell me much. And if he really said "bro, who are you?", that makes me think even more, he didn't know these people. UNLESS they had ski masks on ..

if they had on ski masks he would have said something totally different imo