Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Countryside_Belle]

Snooping around Tiff's Myspace page....found who I believe to be her mom, (or an older woman type close to her)...(I won't link this woman, she hasn't been named.) I noticed this woman posing with Tiff and Donald's baby son, and she also has a photo of drug baggies with white stuff, and what looks to be dark heroin at her newly tattooed feet (says RIP Don/50) The caption reads :"Till my casket drops".
The most interesting part to me however, is something this woman said on her Myspace page. She said- "Blessed Be".
Wasn't this a statement "Tiffany" made here on Mock the other day? Does anyone else recall that statement by TW?

Saw that creepiness myself and I am 99.9% positive that is her mother...keep looking it gets creepier..which is also why I said children learn what they live.

It gets creepier? Creepier than her photos? Where does it get creepier?

No, you're right SS, she's tops the list of creepy. I couldn't even imagine my mother being like that! Good Gawd.
I like the sweet, subtle mommy dearest type touches: The bags of drugs by her tattooed feet, Her hubby's gun photo where she professes her love for him, The self-taken lingerie photo where she's flippin' the bird, the 50+ pics she has of drugs, bright pink and/or purple alcoholic drinks, guns, and thugs VS. the 2 she has of her grandchild......
This may sound harsh, but something like the bubonic plague needs to go through thug circles like this and just wipe 'em out.

[Countryside_Belle]

"This is like a tourist trip to Hell"


Fuckin' A!

[shitstorm]

This may have been discussed, but that link will take you to her mother's myspace too, if you read the comments. I was like, whoa!

wow

Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!

I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....

use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe

Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.


No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!

daaayuuuum! Someone drinking codeine & phenergan, would get extemely sleepy, eeeek! & then to add candy, or koolaid!? Sounds like a kiddie drink or something. And then add the baby bottle, Jesus Christ! Is it some mixture they put their babies to sleep with? I've heard it all now

It made me think of the Kool Aid at Jonestown. These people are just as mind controlled as Jim Jones' cult and their cocktail is just as lethal. They're the walking, talking, living dead.

[shitstorm]

wow

Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!

I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....

use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe

Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.


No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!

daaayuuuum! Someone drinking codeine & phenergan, would get extemely sleepy, eeeek! & then to add candy, or koolaid!? Sounds like a kiddie drink or something. And then add the baby bottle, Jesus Christ! Is it some mixture they put their babies to sleep with? I've heard it all now

Right Catch!! I guess I'm getting old, I'd never heard of it. I know this is off topic but here's a link to an article & it mentions drinking it out of a baby bottle...

http://www.tncp.net/Articles/tabid/1800/...-City.aspx

From your link:

Rap artists like Gucci Mane make it seem cool to be on lean. Lil Wayne can be seen brandishing his styrofoam cup full of a purplish-colored drink in almost every photo in the media. This syrup-sippin’ epidemic has become popular among minority groups, and mixed with other drugs such as Ecstasy, alcohol, and marijuana, can be fatal, especially if they’re operating a motor vehicle.

They have even created a form of music, known as “chopped and screwed,” where the music is chopped down and played at a very slow speed for users of Promethazine/Codeine to enjoy while under the influence.

“I’m addicted and it makes me feel good,” said one young man I interviewed who didn’t want his name to be published. When I asked him what the thrill of drinking syrup was, he leaned over in his seat, barely responsive for about 10 minutes, before slowly waking up and asking me to repeat the question.

[Countryside_Belle]

wow

Wow is right. What's with the baby bottle of purple stuff labeled "screw bangin". Now I see why Tiffany is so messed up. I see her hero is Jesus!

I think I've figured out what the purple stuff is in the baby bottle :O
She has a album R.I.P Big Moe who is a rapper, who has a song entitled Bang Screw so I looked up that term in Urban Dictionary & this is what I got....

use of codeine with promethazine cough syrup mixed with a soft drink, usually sprite, with a candy added, usually jolly ranchers. Made popular by Dj Screw, Big Moe

Refers to one who sips or "po's up" lean or purple stuff on a regular basis. This term was popularized by the late legendary member of the Screwed Up Click Big Moe. It is usually associated with the Houston rap scene.


No clue why it's in a baby bottle though. Scary stuff!!

daaayuuuum! Someone drinking codeine & phenergan, would get extemely sleepy, eeeek! & then to add candy, or koolaid!? Sounds like a kiddie drink or something. And then add the baby bottle, Jesus Christ! Is it some mixture they put their babies to sleep with? I've heard it all now

It made me think of the Kool Aid at Jonestown. These people are just as mind controlled as Jim Jones' cult and their cocktail is just as lethal. They're the walking, talking, living dead.

Eww... the Jonestown thing, yep this does seem the same!
Out of about 75 percent of the the kids' profiles I've seen on the MS and FB connected to this case... have "R.I.P." on their profile name.
Ya, that Jonestown punch thing wigs me out, seriously. It is so parallel to the cough syrup/ lethal drugs /fruity drink thing!

[shitstorm]

I wonder if Hillary Clinton refers to State Dept personnel as "my niggaz". I bet she does.


hahaha, I'm so tired.


*cracks up at myself*

[Countryside_Belle]

I wonder if Hillary Clinton refers to State Dept personnel as "my niggaz". I bet she does.


hahaha, I'm so tired.


*cracks up at myself*

I'm not touching that one with a 10 ft. pole.
Damn, I'm tired too.
Ok, guess I'll go read something with paper and catch up on this tomorrow...This gangster watching has left me with a wierd case of the cotton mouth...

[shitstorm]

Snooping around Tiff's Myspace page....found who I believe to be her mom, (or an older woman type close to her)...(I won't link this woman, she hasn't been named.) I noticed this woman posing with Tiff and Donald's baby son, and she also has a photo of drug baggies with white stuff, and what looks to be dark heroin at her newly tattooed feet (says RIP Don/50) The caption reads :"Till my casket drops".
The most interesting part to me however, is something this woman said on her Myspace page. She said- "Blessed Be".
Wasn't this a statement "Tiffany" made here on Mock the other day? Does anyone else recall that statement by TW?

Saw that creepiness myself and I am 99.9% positive that is her mother...keep looking it gets creepier..which is also why I said children learn what they live.

It gets creepier? Creepier than her photos? Where does it get creepier?

No, you're right SS, she's tops the list of creepy. I couldn't even imagine my mother being like that! Good Gawd.
I like the sweet, subtle mommy dearest type touches: The bags of drugs by her tattooed feet, Her hubby's gun photo where she professes her love for him, The self-taken lingerie photo where she's flippin' the bird, the 50+ pics she has of drugs, bright pink and/or purple alcoholic drinks, guns, and thugs VS. the 2 she has of her grandchild......
This may sound harsh, but something like the bubonic plague needs to go through thug circles like this and just wipe 'em out.

The term "useless eater" comes to mind.

[shitstorm]

OMG, I'm at the end.

Okay, nobody post anything until I get back.


Morning, niggaz! See y'all in few hours.

[Lady Cop]

hahaha you guys should have gone to bed at 11 like i did! but it's sunday, it should be slower in here today.

[Momforlife]

I see the link is for MySpace, yet Facebook is what is being mentioned. Does she have a facebook page, or just MySpace? Also.... It looks like you have to create an account to see anything recent on hers or anyones page. I don't have a MySpace page, and don't want one. If anyone wants to cut and paste from there to here......

[Momforlife]

But now its gone again....I just checked.....

[DCTim]

Because if Tiffany was just on the phone with Johnny so she could get Johnny and Lisa out of the house so the house could get robbed, then she would want to know what really happened, so sthat he would know what story to tell police. It makes sense that she needed to let alot of time to lapse and then to get involved since records would show that she had talked to Johnny and Lisa last. She needed to make it look like she was trying to alert people that something happened. If she sat back and was idle, that would really make her look suspicious. But time is key. She had to let time lapse and then find out what really went down without asking the people who did it.

Why would she need to know anything?? She could simply tell LE , 'yes, I spoke with Lisa about getting on Facebook' ...hell, she could have made anything up, as far as that goes. Instead she PUTS herself at the scene, & I don't think it was intentional. I think she really wanted to get hold of Johnny, regarding drugs, so she makes up the story about meeting up w/them to play pool. She can't be very smart, or she woudn't have put herself at the scene. Her making the lapse in time, makes no sense to me.

I think it was her opportunity to make it look like she was a loving, concerned friend. She could've even been there. She could've been on the phone with Johnny from around the corner and then participated or been the look out at the scene. Placing herself there could also serve as her alibi incase anyone did see her there.
I think phone records (the one's police have access to) actually show which cell phone tower the signal was coming from, which would help show her location at the time of the phone call.

I appreciate your input, but I don't see it that way. You could be right, though. If I was going to set someone up, I'd sure as hell, lay low, & not be calling people, making folks get excited/worried, about the people I just set up.

What a better alibi than to be the "worried friend" . Spouses who murder there spouse also "grieve" at the funeral. Makes them looks good. Look at Susan Smith how she grieved about the carjacking that killed her kids.

Agree w/Jane. True, it's happened before (Susan Smith, et al), but I do not believe that Tiffany was there for the execution and all the blood (crime scene described as horrific) - even if she never went into the house - and then would show back up on the scene a mere couple hours later. And bring his dad to boot? Seems like that would take a tremendous level of steely resolve to maintain the composure required to pull that off...

And "placing herself there in case she's been seen"...Presumably she would've been seen with a couple perps too, right? How would she explain that away?

I'll leave my mind open that Tiffany may have had SOME involvement, but no, she wasn't there for the killings.

[RedCloud]

Interestingly, the Toledo PD and Lucas County Sheriff (with an assist from DEA) did a large-scale Drug Raid across the city. The actual haul of illegal stuff was miserably small (anything less than $250,000 when you have arrested more than 10 people is not getting the main stash.) but it does strike me a good way to scoop up all the "Persons of Interest". And all the 'little fish' to see if you cant get them to give up any information they might have.

Also, I live in South Toledo, but I have only been here 10 years. I find it amazing that there are families here in Toledo who have been here since 1900 ! All of the family members: born here, go to school here, work here -or as close to working as they can do- and die here....LAST ONE OF THEM ! SO, here in South Toledo, everyone knows everyone else, knew thier families, teach others' history, what everyone is doing, how much money they make, what major purchases they have made, cable or satelite TV, laptop or PC, new car, old car, non-running car....etc etc ad nauseum.

Yes, there are many rumors floating around; some ridiculous (and I have No Idea why anyone would make themselves look as ridiculous repeating them), some (like posted here) friends of LE or EMTs or families' friends. And the more rational, detailed ones

(and saying Cuban cartels is not rational...remember, everyone knows if you have 'bundled cable-telephone-internet' or just Dish TV; the "Cuban Hit-Men" will be noted, commented on, have thier picture taken on cell phone and posted on FaceBook)

are, so far, the ones receiving the most credence, "proof" and support. Alot of people here drive down the various streets and point out "Oh, there's where Tiffany lives!' ,or... "See that bldg? In that Apt # is where Donald "50 kcal" got shot and he died right there. ...oh and look, there's his loser friends still sitting on the same block!" ....

[DCTim]

Ok. This is Off Topic. But I am hoping you won't throw me out for
posting it. After listening to the 911 calls multiple times and reading
the not so numerous news articles and listening to the not fulfilling
television reports, the address that is used for the Straub's home is
Maumee, Ohio, or Sylvania. Now, Maytee on the frantic 911 call says,
"Holland." Well the only place I can find the listing for the address
as Holland is on the property assessment records and sales. Why
would Maytee know that? vizzo.com I think it was.

I still have 15 pages to catch up on, so this may have been addressed already. I'm a "Toledo Native" myself, and I can tell you that area coud conceivably be called Holland or Maumee (the far western part of Maumee) or Springfield Twp. I think most locals would refer to it as Holland though; I know I did when I lived there and worked in the area.

[Lady Cop]

as of 0715 sunday there have been no arrests/booking reports of a Tiffany Williams in Lucas county.
(just to forestall rumors.)

i don't foresee an arrest w/o a presser.

[EastCoastKat]

22: is there anywhere i can get this thread on tape or the cliff notes?

no, but there will be a quiz at the end.

Pssssssst hey Catch 22 ......I got a cheat sheet, real cheap too.

[DCTim]

Picture of Tiffany's dead boyfriend Donald (with money and guy) and her new boyfriend AG. This is part of her crew. Click on picture to enlarge.

I do not see Corrigan. I see AP and his brother MattY?

See 475 productions on FB
Yes, you're right- I just see AP and Matty in the first pic.
I thought there was another one floating around somewhere on ms of them though....
Can you imagine writing "Don's widow" on the ass of your jeans?! lmfao

lol

How did you guys figure out the name of Matty?

Still catching up this am, so pardon if my question came up already.

On those FB pages for MY or 475E or someone else, I seem to recall reading specifically about death by plastic bags and other gory details, but can't find it now. Am I imagining that, or did anyone else read that (and/or capture) it too?

[EastCoastKat]

we are getting really far afield here with speculating about the facebook pages of totally unrelated people.

What do you wanna bet Kevin Bacon is mixed up in all of this?

One more degree and the cops will be knocking at your door!!

[EastCoastKat]

Trying to catch up....