Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[esbee]

I really apologize for this but I can't find it anywhere and it's starting to drive me nuts.

Does anyone have a link to the 911 phone call reporting having seen Johnny through the window?

look for 911 calls in this thread for links:

http://mockforums.net/thread-4892.html

Thanks, LC. I had looked there and found the one of the second call with calls out to the detectives. I'll look again.

[Lady Cop]

if someone has exactly what Esbee is looking for, please post in links thread? and here for her. thanks!!

[fabulous]

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she said about ten min. in the 911 call. and the last I heard maytee lived on danbury st. in south toledo. Pretty much a straight shot down airport hwy with lots of traffic lights. of course no traffic at 11-3 in the morning. Then again i could be wrong because danbury st. is all houses and somebody mentioned that she lived in a trailer

if you go to the audtitors website for Lucas county ohio is reports that Maytee OWNS a trailer, she may not be living there though. I read in some court document that she was LIVING in a house on Danberry st. the house on Danberry st. is owned by another individual with the same last name of Vasquez.

[aileen]

To LC, with your experience in LE, have any of the departments you worked in ever used *mediums* or as they prefer to be called in this type of work *cold case psychics*? I was just curious about this and did a little reading online. I found that most states (police) departments don't find them credible, although quite a few found them helpful in many cases. What's your opinion on this?

[LytoMe]

I am so glad I am not the only one, that has been my biggest question and I think Johnny's father holds more information then Maytee does at this point. He was the first on the scene with Tiffany, not Maytee....He was the one who physically touched the bodies before they were found....AND he has not spoken publicly like Maytee. I just have so many questions for Johnny’s father, NOT Maytee. What was around the body, how were they positioned before you moved them, and was the house mess when you finally broke in?

ONE last thing…WHY is it that they were surrounding the house for what 4 hours? I would LOVE to know WHY they didn’t think they left or caught a ride OR even were kidnapped. They did not think OR DID THEY KNOW they never left the house? DOES ANYONE else see that as ODD? Did they call 100 people thinking they left, NO, they were POSITIVE they were inside the house. WHY?? I have left my house many times without my car…I would be curious as to why they KNEW they were harmed inside the house.

[toledoarea]

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she said about ten min. in the 911 call. and the last I heard maytee lived on danbury st. in south toledo. Pretty much a straight shot down airport hwy with lots of traffic lights. of course no traffic at 11-3 in the morning. Then again i could be wrong because danbury st. is all houses and somebody mentioned that she lived in a trailer

if you go to the audtitors website for Lucas county ohio is reports that Maytee OWNS a trailer, she may not be living there though. I read in some court document that she was LIVING in a house on Danberry st. the house on Danberry st. is owned by another individual with the same last name of Vasquez.

Nice find, however make sure you're looking for the right danbury. I could be wrong but I think it's danbury and not danberry. again, I could be mistaken

[Lady Cop]

To LC, with your experience in LE, have any of the departments you worked in ever used *mediums* or as they prefer to be called in this type of work *cold case psychics*? I was just curious about this and did a little reading online. I found that most states (police) departments don't find them credible, although quite a few found them helpful in many cases. What's your opinion on this?

some depts. will use them on occasion, but my sheriff didn't.

frankly i think it's a load of bollocks. and a scam 98% of the time. but i only speak for myself.

oooo they will be found near a tree or water. well yeah.

[NightOwl]

There is a rumor floating around that they have been trying to question Lisas ex boyfriend but have been unable to locate him. Everytime they get a lead on him hes gone. That is another rumor though. I would think if they really thought he was a suspect and it has been three weeks now they would have put something on the media " if you have seen this person" type of thing......I also keep thinking about the killer(s) shoes. For those of yo not from this area thatSunday it was very nice out... The snow had all melted from the sidewalks and it was fairly warm and sunny... they had to track stuff in on their shoes.... stuff on the floor of their car etc... they had to leave footprints in the blood. I recall a case on the show " Forensic Files" where it was solved by some leaves or seeds left at the crime scene from some sort of unusual tree... Fascinating!!

Brother Cadfael would be a good slueth for leaves & seeds! Much can be picked up on shoe soles - interesting post! thanks!

[toledoarea]

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she said about ten min. in the 911 call. and the last I heard maytee lived on danbury st. in south toledo. Pretty much a straight shot down airport hwy with lots of traffic lights. of course no traffic at 11-3 in the morning. Then again i could be wrong because danbury st. is all houses and somebody mentioned that she lived in a trailer

if you go to the audtitors website for Lucas county ohio is reports that Maytee OWNS a trailer, she may not be living there though. I read in some court document that she was LIVING in a house on Danberry st. the house on Danberry st. is owned by another individual with the same last name of Vasquez.

Nice find, however make sure you're looking for the right danbury. I could be wrong but I think it's danbury and not danberry. again, I could be mistaken

My mistake. I just looked and it is danberry

[fabulous]

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she said about ten min. in the 911 call. and the last I heard maytee lived on danbury st. in south toledo. Pretty much a straight shot down airport hwy with lots of traffic lights. of course no traffic at 11-3 in the morning. Then again i could be wrong because danbury st. is all houses and somebody mentioned that she lived in a trailer

if you go to the audtitors website for Lucas county ohio is reports that Maytee OWNS a trailer, she may not be living there though. I read in some court document that she was LIVING in a house on Danberry st. the house on Danberry st. is owned by another individual with the same last name of Vasquez.

Nice find, however make sure you're looking for the right danbury. I could be wrong but I think it's danbury and not danberry. again, I could be mistaken

ok, not to split hairs here...but I was thinking it was DANBERRY street... on the southend, near Airport hwy and South. The address that I have for the family is XXX Danberry st. who knows...I could be completely wrong.

[fabulous]

I'm finally caught up!!! I love this forum and have never been more addicted to anything online as I am to this... and like some other have mentioned, reading this shit at night freaks me the hell out. seriuosly. the other night I was so freaked out I had all the lights on! my husband thinks I'm crazy!! hahah :B

[wanttoknow]

i dont think anyone thinks it fucking makes a difference if there is a fucking basement or not. i think that we are fuckin curious if there is a fucking basement or not. fuck.

Heh

sorry got rattled

Don't apologize. It was funny as hell.

Was there an attic?

[toledoarea]

i dont think anyone thinks it fucking makes a difference if there is a fucking basement or not. i think that we are fuckin curious if there is a fucking basement or not. fuck.

Heh

sorry got rattled

Don't apologize. It was funny as hell.

Was there an attic?

Ha Ha! damn it! did the neighbors have an attic? tell me! I gotta know if the neighbors had an attic

[wanttoknow]

I'm finally caught up!!! I love this forum and have never been more addicted to anything online as I am to this... and like some other have mentioned, reading this shit at night freaks me the hell out. seriuosly. the other night I was so freaked out I had all the lights on! my husband thinks I'm crazy!! hahah :B

At the end of the night, I look at the photography thread. It helps clear my mind of all the ugly stuff. I go to sleep feeling peaceful. Beautiful pics.

[Red_velvet71]

To LC, with your experience in LE, have any of the departments you worked in ever used *mediums* or as they prefer to be called in this type of work *cold case psychics*? I was just curious about this and did a little reading online. I found that most states (police) departments don't find them credible, although quite a few found them helpful in many cases. What's your opinion on this?

some depts. will use them on occasion, but my sheriff didn't.

frankly i think it's a load of bollocks. and a scam 98% of the time. but i only speak for myself.

oooo they will be found near a tree or water. well yeah.

I agree, and here's a good example.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/psychic_de...of_failure

:stir_shit:

[EastCoastKat]

There is a rumor floating around that they have been trying to question Lisas ex boyfriend but have been unable to locate him. Everytime they get a lead on him hes gone. That is another rumor though. I would think if they really thought he was a suspect and it has been three weeks now they would have put something on the media " if you have seen this person" type of thing......I also keep thinking about the killer(s) shoes. For those of yo not from this area thatSunday it was very nice out... The snow had all melted from the sidewalks and it was fairly warm and sunny... they had to track stuff in on their shoes.... stuff on the floor of their car etc... they had to leave footprints in the blood. I recall a case on the show " Forensic Files" where it was solved by some leaves or seeds left at the crime scene from some sort of unusual tree... Fascinating!!

If they want Lisa's ex, they should try FB he is making friends on there like crazy!

[ZEROSPHERES]

i dont think anyone thinks it fucking makes a difference if there is a fucking basement or not. i think that we are fuckin curious if there is a fucking basement or not. fuck.

Heh

sorry got rattled

Don't apologize. It was funny as hell.

Was there an attic?

attic or addict?

[esbee]

To LC, with your experience in LE, have any of the departments you worked in ever used *mediums* or as they prefer to be called in this type of work *cold case psychics*? I was just curious about this and did a little reading online. I found that most states (police) departments don't find them credible, although quite a few found them helpful in many cases. What's your opinion on this?

some depts. will use them on occasion, but my sheriff didn't.

frankly i think it's a load of bollocks. and a scam 98% of the time. but i only speak for myself.

oooo they will be found near a tree or water. well yeah.

I agree, and here's a good example.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/psychic_de...of_failure

What a great article!

[Lady Cop]

I'm finally caught up!!! I love this forum and have never been more addicted to anything online as I am to this... and like some other have mentioned, reading this shit at night freaks me the hell out. seriuosly. the other night I was so freaked out I had all the lights on! my husband thinks I'm crazy!! hahah :B

At the end of the night, I look at the photography thread. It helps clear my mind of all the ugly stuff. I go to sleep feeling peaceful. Beautiful pics.

i thank you both...and am glad you enjoy the photo forum! i love it too. that was my baby.

http://mockforums.net/forum-22.html

[wanttoknow]

Was there an attic?
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attic or addict?
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I think there was both that night