Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[ZEROSPHERES]

I really apologize for this but I can't find it anywhere and it's starting to drive me nuts.

Does anyone have a link to the 911 phone call reporting having seen Johnny through the window?

Thanks Zero. The problem is the Toledo on the Move article only plays two of the tapes with subsequent calls to detectives. I hate the NG/JVM transcripts because they edit things out of order. I've found "ghosts" of the third call on the net but all the links are broken. I really would've been interested in hearing that third call for myself.

The third call link is on P9 post 113

When I try it the link is to toledo blade but empty. The blade may by request allow you access or may reinstate it to their website

911call#3
http://www.toledoblade.com/assets/mpg/TO8006721.MP3


:wheelchair: so far the link is crippled

[Lady Cop]

LC Once this is time line is finished can you put a copy in the facts of the case thread so it's easy to find, and reference.


when it is done, and accurate, the creator of the timeline can add it, or i could.

[esbee]

So when Tiffany picked up John. Sr. for a ride to the Straubs, where was Sharita? And where was the military relative during this time as well? because the military relative wasn't with Maytee. if the military relative was with Maytee, then Maytee would have had a babysitter to watch Maytees other boys while going with Tiffany and John Sr. to the Straubs

In the second 911 call Maytee states that she is with her cousin who is in the military.

[notsure]

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Johnny. unconfirmed
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. unconfirmed
Johnny's phone is turned off. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Sharita. unconfirmed
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell. unconfirmed
Sharita calls Maytee. per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee calls LE 1 ...(I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.) 1^st call at 1:21 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 1^st time. deputies arrived at 1:28 and stayed 11 minutes per LE statement
Lights ON in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. per LE statement (Major Keel)
Maytee calls LE 2 per 2^nd 911 call at 2:06 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 2^nd time. remain on scene 36 minutes per LE statement
Lights OUT in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. source?
John travels to Straubs per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee travels to Straubs
Maytee is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window. per Maytee in 3^rd 911 call

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1. I thought that tiff went to straubs house first, then went back home and called sarti.

2 during the day it is a 20 minute drive from southside to straubs

[ZEROSPHERES]

Just keeping notes in one place. Red is per Toledo Blade article here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...google.com

So when Tiffany picked up John. Sr. for a ride to the Straubs, where was Sharita?

Sharita, like MrZ (as per TW), was diligently working on a paper for school....NOT.....seeing how upwardly mobile and acheivement inspired everyone in this saga are, (NOT) I find your question totally revelvant.

[ZEROSPHERES]

That should read

MAYBE...Sharita, like MrZ (as per TW), was diligently working on a paper for school....NOT.....seeing how upwardly mobile and acheivement inspired everyone in this saga are, (NOT) I find your question totally revelvant.

[esbee]

Time Line. Does anyone know the approx. times? Do I have
the chronology correct?

Lisa and Johnny arrive at Straubs.
Tiffany calls Lisa. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Johnny. unconfirmed
Tiffany hears suspicious noise and 'wonderment' from Johnny. unconfirmed
Johnny's phone is turned off. unconfirmed
Tiffany calls Sharita. unconfirmed
Tiffany drives by the house, rings doorbell. unconfirmed
Sharita calls Maytee. per Maytee in 911 call
Maytee calls LE 1^st 911 call (I recall M. said S had called a half hour ago.) 1^st call at 1:21 per LE statement per Maytee, John Sr is on his way to the house with Tiffany and due to arrive "in about 10 minutes"
LE visits Straubs 1^st time. deputies arrived at 1:28 and stayed 11 minutes per LE statement
EMS activated for Maytee
Lights ON in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows. per LE statement (Major Keel)
Maytee calls LE 2 per 2^nd 911 call. at 2:06 per LE statement
LE visits Straubs 2^nd time. remain on scene 36 minutes per LE statement
Lights OUT in Straub house. source?
Nothing seen through windows.
Maytee travels to Straubs with "cousin in the military" per 2^nd 911 call
Maytee is at Straubs. LE call 3.
Johnny's body in view through the window. per Maytee in 3^rd 911 call

Somewhere in there - a fight ensued. Lights were turned off.
People left the house.
Common denominator - one/two persons drove around the block.

Just keeping notes in one place. Red is per Toledo Blade article here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...google.com

Additional info.

[aileen]

So when Tiffany picked up John. Sr. for a ride to the Straubs, where was Sharita? And where was the military relative during this time as well? because the military relative wasn't with Maytee. if the military relative was with Maytee, then Maytee would have had a babysitter to watch Maytees other boys while going with Tiffany and John Sr. to the Straubs

In the second 911 call Maytee states that she is with her cousin who is in the military.

I don't think she would need a babysitter because the one son is 15. But she could have waited for someone, considering what was going on and not wanting to leave them alone.

[esbee]

I really apologize for this but I can't find it anywhere and it's starting to drive me nuts.

Does anyone have a link to the 911 phone call reporting having seen Johnny through the window?

Thanks Zero. The problem is the Toledo on the Move article only plays two of the tapes with subsequent calls to detectives. I hate the NG/JVM transcripts because they edit things out of order. I've found "ghosts" of the third call on the net but all the links are broken. I really would've been interested in hearing that third call for myself.

The third call link is on P9 post 113

When I try it the link is to toledo blade but empty. The blade may by request allow you access or may reinstate it to their website

911call#3
http://www.toledoblade.com/assets/mpg/TO8006721.MP3


:wheelchair: so far the link is crippled

Thanks Zero. Ran into that problem, too.

[ZEROSPHERES]

Let's not forget that Tiff has told two versions about this call - we don't know which version LE believes.

I believe NEITHER and hope LE views both renditions with suspicion

[Red_velvet71]

    LOL< they look like DRIVE BY EYEBROWS, like somebody drew them on as they were driving by!!
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Could be worse.

[TotallyCurious]

Posting it in one place is fine with me and prefer Admin do it.

[esbee]

Posting it in one place is fine with me and prefer Admin do it.

I think your timeline was a fantastic idea.

[ZEROSPHERES]

LOL< they look like DRIVE BY EYEBROWS, like somebody drew them on as they were driving by!!

Could be worse.




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LMAO....can you photshop a little Hitler mustasche there? It would balance out her face. A fulcrum for those levers (eyebrows) to pivot on.

[gimpgrl163]

LOL< they look like DRIVE BY EYEBROWS, like somebody drew them on as they were driving by!!

Could be worse.


[/quote]

Wow, those are some classy eyebrows!

[TotallyCurious]

I can not imagine that a pregnant woman would go out
ALONE to a house at midnight. Has she ever mentioned
being with someone?

We have at least John, Maytee, Cousin at the Discovery
Scene where the bodies are dead and cold. Meaning the
murders would have happened not too long after 11pm.
(Is 11 00 the time Lisa got off work or got home?)

LOTS of blood. Someone somewhere has to be hurt.

[DCTim]

I learned from a VERY reliable source today that LE knows who the perps were. Suffice to say that some of the recent contributors here were right on the mark.

I think what they're waiting for is DNA evidence to be returned before any arrests are made.

Sadly, what we have heard about LS being tortured is evidently correct. Worse than we've read here I'm told.

[toledoarea]

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So when Tiffany picked up John. Sr. for a ride to the Straubs, where was Sharita? And where was the military relative during this time as well? because the military relative wasn't with Maytee. if the military relative was with Maytee, then Maytee would have had a babysitter to watch Maytees other boys while going with Tiffany and John Sr. to the Straubs
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In the second 911 call Maytee states that she is with her cousin who is in the military.

I don't think she would need a babysitter because the one son is 15. But she could have waited for someone, considering what was going on and not wanting to leave them alone.

Well when I was 15 I used to watch my little brother all of the time. My mom would've said "son, watch your brother, me and your dad are going somewhere for a little while to check on your older brother. We think he needs help".

[Lady Cop]

someone tell me when accurate timeline is done, and post it. i am up to my ass in alligators, other stuff, today. i will post it when complete. be sure it's accurate.

thanks a lot!!

[TotallyCurious]

Thanks. Does anyone know when Lisa left work?