Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[wanttoknow]

This is my first post. So hello to everyone! I have enjoyed the 500+ posts so far.

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Welcome Futile

[shitstorm]

So I got an email from TW threatning to beat me up because of something I said on FB....

Oh wow. The pregnant mother of three threatening violence. Imagine that.

hahaha! Who could make this shit up?

An aside - When I lived in Los Angeles one of the gals in the office I worked in was Mexican American. Parents from Mexico. She was beautiful and refined but she would also fight, lol! I couldn't believe it. She had removing her earrings and braiding her hair down, when the need arose. At an office Christmas party there was another Mexican chick there, who was pregnant, and the one I'm talking about got pissed off at her and punched her out! She didn't give a shit that she was pregnant. I guess this is standard operating procedure in some cultures. Blew my mind.

[pspence]

Lady Cop,

Are you allowed to share with us if you were told to just GUESS right now what your gut feelings are about this case???

We would all be interested in knowing what a professional thinks about this case????

[sharit]

IN TIFFs DEFENSE

Tiff could be completely innocent of any involvement in this crime. So if Mocksters are wondering why TW is angry at Mock, lets see. She came here to plead her case, answered questions, left in peace and then a number of members turned on her. Convicting her without proof and assasinating and impuning her character relating to a crime about which no one on Mock can prove who the guilty party is. Sounds like frenzied feeding time at seaworld to me.

:O

JMHO

Not everyone has been against her.
I think there have been several posts in the last few days that support
her. I hope someone watching here tells her it has not all been
negative. I got bashed for sticking up for her awhile back. I still
think she attempted to do all she could do.

One can't help but bash Tiffany. She's every parent's worst nightmare and her ignorance is beyond comprehension. My biggest problem with her, besides the fact that she probably assisted in the crime, is that she has babies. And babies. And more babies. Once you birth a child, you life is no longer your own. You have to grow up.

ditto on all that.:come and join us:

[pspence]

I found that gang banger post to be both chilling and educational. Sounds like routine business to rape a girl in front of her boyfriend. I'd like to know if Lady Cop has ever heard of this when dealing with gangs.

I'm so glad ShitStorm is back on...my buddy....excellent question...what do you think Lady Cop...have you heard of this when dealing with gangs?

[shitstorm]

Oh my...if this was some Cuban mafia hit...we'll never ever have closure...they're probably in Havana having a pina colata...

I don't think Castro allows Cubans to travel freely. If this involved Cuban drug cartels they would probably be in Florida. Which makes me return the question of who Johnny & Lisa were visiting in FLA and who they may have gotten hooked up with.

[onefortheroad]

It does not take a genius to figure out that whoever perpetrated this crime lacks an education, aspires to be something they truly are not, and will never amount to any self worth or respect in life. Likely a parasite on society and probably a burden upon there family as well. What they need to worry about is, which of his/her crew is going to snitch on them first? Or have they already? Money is a powerful tool! Geez, I bet there is some major insecurities building at this point. It is just a matter of time before the world comes crashing down around them or one turns on another.

I think these perps have pretty high opinions of themselves and think they're a whole lot more important than they are, maybe their degenerate warped minds even think this has enhanced their street cred.

$28,000 is a large sum of cash, would buy a lot of percs ... or anything else. If it hasn't already been claimed, I'd say there's some serious thinking going on right now.

[doing40thisyear]

:agreed:Not everyone has been against her. (Tiffany)
I think there have been several posts in the last few days that support
her. I hope someone watching here tells her it has not all been
negative. I got bashed for sticking up for her awhile back. I still
think she attempted to do all she could do.

Me too. I still believe in her.

I wish I could? believe her....I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

[sharit]

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IN TIFFs DEFENSE

Tiff could be completely innocent of any involvement in this crime. So if [b]Mocksters [/b]are wondering why TW is angry at Mock, lets see. She came here to plead her case, answered questions, left in peace and then a number of members turned on her. Convicting her without proof and assasinating and impuning her character relating to a crime about which no one on Mock can prove who the guilty party is. Sounds like frenzied feeding time at seaworld to me.

:O

JMHO

all i can say is, opinions are like ass holes, every body has one. and this is life. the world is going to hell in a hurry. and people just do not trust like they used to. unfortunately for tiffany it just doesnt look good. bad decisions coming back to haunt her...

[pspence]

Sadness is it being Sat night...having a beer....husb is out of town so don't have to worry about pissing him by being on Mock too long and you look up and you are at the end of the thread...

[Butterfly Girl]

:agreed:Not everyone has been against her. (Tiffany)
I think there have been several posts in the last few days that support
her. I hope someone watching here tells her it has not all been
negative. I got bashed for sticking up for her awhile back. I still
think she attempted to do all she could do.

Me too. I still believe in her.

I wish I could? believe her....I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.

[shitstorm]

Oh my...if this was some Cuban mafia hit...we'll never ever have closure...they're probably in Havana having a pina colata...

Anyone, help me clear the confusion- I admit I am lost, but does Cuba have a mafia? I have heard of drug cartels, but not mafia ? And is it a fact or rumor, that the person Maytee supposedly snitched on, to save her husband a jail sentence, were they Cuban?, do we know that she did snitch on anyone, or is this still speculation? Sorry, I work full time and try to keep up!!

The REAL Mafia ran Cuba, prior to the communist Cuban revolution. The Cubans who worked for the Mafia all emigrated to the US and are tight with the criminals in the CIA. They were the guys who did the Bay of Pigs invasion during the JFK administration and they were also implicated in JFK's assassination. That level of Cuban criminal is entrenched in GOVERNMENT. No doubt, they're deep into the drug biz, flying the planes in from Central and South America, in exchange for weapons and money. My point is that these types are WAY up there - international drug and human trafficking. They aren't the street thugs. The crap that came to the US in the Mariel boat lift, during the Carter administration, were the worst criminals in Castro's prisons and Jimmy Carter let them all in. I could see that ilk being Maytee's (and Johnny's) relatives.

[TotallyCurious]

One can't help but bash Tiffany. She's every parent's worst nightmare and her ignorance is beyond comprehension. My biggest problem with her, besides the fact that she probably assisted in the crime, is that she has babies. And babies. And more babies. Once you birth a child, you life is no longer your own. You have to grow up.

[pspence]

I wish I could? believe her....(Tiffany )I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.

Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.


Tiffany told me she didn't have Maytee's phone #...called Sharita for it but Sharita wouldn't give it to her...Sharita finally called Maytee herself.

[TotallyCurious]

One can't help but bash Tiffany. She's every parent's worst nightmare and her ignorance is beyond comprehension. My biggest problem with her, besides the fact that she probably assisted in the crime, is that she has babies. And babies. And more babies. Once you birth a child, you life is no longer your own. You have to grow up.




We should judge Tiffany only on what she did that night.

Actually she was more proactive than LE.

[pspence]

The crap that came to the US in the Mariel boat lift, during the Carter administration, were the worst criminals in Castro's prisons and Jimmy Carter let them all in. I could see that ilk being Maytee's (and Johnny's) relatives.

Yeah, what a horrible thing to do...put them right on the boats to FL along with letting all of the crazies out too from their mental institutions...

[shitstorm]

I agree with both of you. I don't think much of all the percocet talk, at all...Reason being, the digital scales & the pieces of white plastic. Percocets can be gotten just about anywhere. If someone is jonesin for one, my GUESS is, it wouldn't cost all that much... 6 or 7 bucks a piece? The jonesin Z (which someone has mentioned) makes no sense, as far as being a murderer, BUT a large stash of weed or cocaine, could make someone some big money..

If we are going to continue down the drug line...Unfortunately I know way too much about drugs in this area. Percocets and Oxys can go for as much as $20 a pill (if the dealer knows you are jonesing). Somebody called it "Hillbilly Heroin" in an earlier post, and I don't know if it is called that, but it should be the oposite. The rich people are the ones that can afford the pills. Heroin is dirty (not manufactured in a lab), so you never know what you are really getting, and what most people resort to because it is WAY cheaper than pills. But as I said before, the real drug of choice in To-Le-Do is fentanyl made into a powder form or a rock that can be smoked.
I also heard from a person who lives in Lisa's hood who repeated the rumor of the kids being beaten with a baseball bat. Which would go along with the initial news coverage where the reporters said it was a "pretty greusome crime scene."
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Is cocaine a factor with this crowd or are they all just into sedatives?

If that's true about the baseball bat or anything beyond the bags, then the coroner/LE simply BS'd. Wouldn't surprise me.

[pspence]

Just found this on another post...

think there were drugs there and that is what was taken. I realize that it is just my opinion but I believe there was a significant amount there that was uncut due to the scales and baggies being on the counter.

This case has looked like a drug-related home invasion from the beginning. Someone knew he had most recently got in an amount of drugs and they went there to take them or he was screwing his supplier...

Drugs is at the core of this because it is the easiest explanation for how things went down.

The friend did not call the police and waited because she did not know exactly what was going on over there but she knew one thing for sure and that is that her friends were involved in drugs. Having the police go over there and not know if the police was 'needed' could cause her friends to get busted. I do not find the friends actions suspicious and I do not think she set up or was involved in the home invasion.

This case probably will not get solved until someone is arrested for something and snitches.

[TotallyCurious]

. Me too. I still believe in her.


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I wish I could? believe her....I feel kinda sorry for her after seeing her mother's post. I guess when you have that 1^st gut instinct "why did she wait 2 hours, the way she sounded on 911 call, then fb.
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Maybe she didn't want to call the police to the house.
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If she knew there could be drugs in the house, I totally agree with
you, and she tried to put it into the hands of adults to make the
decision.

[FutileResistance1]

I think these perps have pretty high opinions of themselves and think they're a whole lot more important than they are, maybe their degenerate warped minds even think this has enhanced their street cred.

$28,000 is a large sum of cash, would buy a lot of percs ... or anything else. If it hasn't already been claimed, I'd say there's some serious thinking going on right now.

They are definitely part of a degenerate class of people like their parents and friends. They will never (ever) amount to anything. I tend to refer to these types as throwaways in society. No one will even care about them when an arrest gets made. Well, except for their less than savy friends and family. However, these ignorant morons cannot fathom the idea that someone may flip on them. It probably has already happened or is progressing towards that point. Are they oblivious to deals being made? No matter how many times they may have reassured each other of not speaking of this crime or flipping on the other. There will be lingering doubt on all sides, and for good reason! amazing what someone might say if they get arrested or are in a jam. The rules of the street do not apply then.

It is just a matter of when someone makes the move for the reward or has someone do it for them. These types talk big of not snitching, but when push comes to shove. Money or lacking a heavier sentence speaks volumes!