Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[ToledoNative]

Mote MotherMockers

[BellaMia]

Does anyone think their killer(s) have killed before? [/color]

YES

I just dont see how someone could kill for the first time, this way.
This is someone with the stomach for torture etc. Blood lust so to speak.

Yea I agree. Does anyone know if autopsy reports are public if so where to see it? I sorta feel bad for being so nosey about a case like this when the families are in such devistation, but the way this murder happened and it being so long after with no word on suspects or progress my curiosity is getting the better of me. I guess it doesn't help that they can read I'm being nosey lol I think it must be more of me feeling guilty then sad. SMH

[pfifltrigg]

disclaimer:

somewhat

feel free to disregard...

so this may make me unpopular here and is totally worthless in relation to the discussion of finding justice, but i have been following this since the beginning, and at this point i am very curious to what your answers might be to my question: what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

but, heaven forbid, as we all know, it may come to where this isn't solved for a very long time, or not at all. so at what point do you call it quits and find another forum to follow? it has been said more than once that we don't know any more at page 700+ than we did at page 5, so...?

also i have watched many of you say that you have become addicted to this thread, and i have seen some "friendships" seem to form as a result of posting on here. so, i am just curious...what happens if they announce a promising arrest soon? and, if not, at what point does this thread melt away?

i half-ass apologize if i seem like a dick with this post as i have had no legitimate posts thus far (as i have no info worth your time to read), but i am just curious. i am very interested in the sociology behind the commeraderie that i have seen so many of you share behind this tragic event.

and p.s.: though i haven't been actively involved, i have been following you all since day one, and i've been hooked as well, so...

[WolfHouse]

It slipped while talking to a good source thats been in contact with one of the families. But as I told LC I can't help but wonder if the family isn't spreading that to scare the perps into turning themselves in??? There has been other talk that someone was recently arrested for it yet no names are given there either. But my source has had good info on everything else in this case hoping this is the same result.

can you verify if the rumors are true about Lisa being injured worse than Johnny? Was a baseball bat used? Was Lisa raped? Was her tongue injured?

I have heard that she was worse than him and it was a closed casket to his open but he didnt look good either but thats from him sitting so long I guess.

She had an open casket

Makes one wonder just what is true and what isn't. Two people. Two
different views of the casket. Ouch. Wonder how much else on here is
absolute bs? One of the two above is incorrect.

[WolfHouse]

If you look at Maytee's postings, they are different, often, in
style and spelling errors. I think there are two people posting.
Just study them. There are different but consistently different
styles.

[ToledoNative]

disclaimer:

somewhat

feel free to disregard...

so this may make me unpopular here and is totally worthless in relation to the discussion of finding justice, but i have been following this since the beginning, and at this point i am very curious to what your answers might be to my question: what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

but, heaven forbid, as we all know, it may come to where this isn't solved for a very long time, or not at all. so at what point do you call it quits and find another forum to follow? it has been said more than once that we don't know any more at page 700+ than we did at page 5, so...?

also i have watched many of you say that you have become addicted to this thread, and i have seen some "friendships" seem to form as a result of posting on here. so, i am just curious...what happens if they announce a promising arrest soon? and, if not, at what point does this thread melt away?

i half-ass apologize if i seem like a dick with this post as i have had no legitimate posts thus far (as i have no info worth your time to read), but i am just curious. i am very interested in the sociology behind the commeraderie that i have seen so many of you share behind this tragic event.

and p.s.: though i haven't been actively involved, i have been following you all since day one, and i've been hooked as well, so...

Great question. I swear, I was just thinking the same thing today.

I believe the answer is...

After the killers are caught, we will keep the thread going through the trial/convictions and have much to say about all the evidence and answers to the questions we have been asking.

If the killers aren't caught, I guess the friendships on here will be the strongest of our lives as we will all end up looking like :wheelchair: together (on our computers in our insane asylums).

[ToledoNative]

I REFUSE TO TALK OR THINK ABOUT MAYTEE ANYMORE ON THIS THREAD. I'M DONE.
I DON'T GIVE A MOTE!

[heartbreaker6713]

disclaimer:

somewhat

feel free to disregard...

so this may make me unpopular here and is totally worthless in relation to the discussion of finding justice, but i have been following this since the beginning, and at this point i am very curious to what your answers might be to my question: what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

but, heaven forbid, as we all know, it may come to where this isn't solved for a very long time, or not at all. so at what point do you call it quits and find another forum to follow? it has been said more than once that we don't know any more at page 700+ than we did at page 5, so...?

also i have watched many of you say that you have become addicted to this thread, and i have seen some "friendships" seem to form as a result of posting on here. so, i am just curious...what happens if they announce a promising arrest soon? and, if not, at what point does this thread melt away?

i half-ass apologize if i seem like a dick with this post as i have had no legitimate posts thus far (as i have no info worth your time to read), but i am just curious. i am very interested in the sociology behind the commeraderie that i have seen so many of you share behind this tragic event.

and p.s.: though i haven't been actively involved, i have been following you all since day one, and i've been hooked as well, so...

i read more than just this thread. So i will be sticking around. However i am addicted to reading this one of course and check this more than i check my facebook which i am also just as addicted to. I have not add much of my thoughts to this but have just recently come across and have spent my last week and a half trying to read everything and learn the forum as best as i can! But when and if this case is solved i plan to stick around and look at the other cases and see what i can come up with!

[ZEROSPHERES]

what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

This thread has a life of its own, its life blood may wane because of no arrests and explode when arrests are made. It wont end but it may be replaced by something more bizzare to reap our attention.

[imsuchawildflower]

Does anyone think their killer(s) have killed before? [/color]

YES

I just dont see how someone could kill for the first time, this way.
This is someone with the stomach for torture etc. Blood lust so to speak.

Yea I agree. Does anyone know if autopsy reports are public if so where to see it? I sorta feel bad for being so nosey about a case like this when the families are in such devistation, but the way this murder happened and it being so long after with no word on suspects or progress my curiosity is getting the better of me. I guess it doesn't help that they can read I'm being nosey lol I think it must be more of me feeling guilty then sad. SMH

Only the preliminary autopsy results have been released, but I havent been
able to find it. Someone said the rest (the final report) will probably be
sealed until trial.

[imsuchawildflower]

This wont be over for me until there is justice served.
Someone is going to jail or death for this...and I will be here to
comment on it.

[AriGold]

If you look at Maytee's postings, they are different, often, in
style and spelling errors. I think there are two people posting.
Just study them. There are different but consistently different
styles.

I noticed that too. Maybe it's one of her other personalities...

[Countryside_Belle]

i want to know who the people who don't need cops call when they are robbed at gunpoint or beaten or raped.

That's what detectives should be for.

Many people are under the impression that cops are their personal protectors. I'm sure you know that. They aren't and can't be.

But when somebody is choking your ass, you don't want a detective to sit there and try to figure out who is doing it, you want a cop to pull that motherfucker off of you!

lmfaoooo damn you can certainly make me laugh with the visuals...lmao holy shit

[Inspector Gary]

MAN That damn lady always has something to say! (bullshit) at that! Shes posted something else on her RIP page! I feel for both families I REALLY DO! Shes just off her damn rocker! Im tired of the shit that comes out her mouth! I understand being ANGRY and HURT and even CRAZY! I WAS! but I WOULD NEVER LASH OUT THE WAY SHE HAS! I would not treat people whom r honestly there for me like shit! HINT HINT! She talks about everyone else but yet she seems to stay posted to her phone/internet ²⁴⁄₇ just to post some BS! UGH! IM OVER HER! completely!

Why don't you just stay away and quit obsessing about it.

:agreed:


JsMom, I was appalled at how you acted on the original FB "Justice" page. You, a complete stranger, had the audacity to try and come off as Maytee's biggest supporter and new bff.

If anyone else followed the original "Justice" page and saw how you clung to Maytee and posted that you loved her, and were there for her , then THEY WILL UNDERSTAND where I am coming from!!


Maytee is OBVIOUSLY off her rocker- BUT she is NOT the ONLY ONE!!! Within a matter of minutes, you went from supporting Maytee to bashing her on this forum. I do not agree with Maytee and the way that she is lashing out. BUT worse than her behavior, is YOURS!!! She is obviously extremely unstable and devastated and has made VERY bad decisions. AGREED. BUT who are you to TARGET a grieving mother and then LASH OUT at HER?!?!??!?!

Seriously, it is one thing for people to view Maytee as a crazy woman who needs to stop running her mouth. :stir_shit: And it is fine to posts all those thoughts on this forum!! But when you slither your way into her personal life to the point of her feeling comfortable enough with you to text you from her phone, then that is JUST SICK!!! And then, after you have pushed your way into her life, and then send nasty texts to her cell phone calling her a "BITCH" - you really look like a LOWLIFE, even next to the likes of Maytee. :O


In my opinon, YOU CRAWLED UP her ASS and SHE FARTED YOU OUT!!!

Gives a whole other dimension to POOF BE GONE!!!!

[BellaMia]

I wish I knew about these well more this forum existed when my cousin died. He was ruled a suicide. I guess some one can stab their self through thier breast plate 4 times and then after losing all that blood and I would imagine being extremly weak proceed to slice his own throat. Then his gf decides not to ride in the ambulance and stay behind and clean the house blood, evidence, Etc. befor the detectives arrive. Oh lets not forget the sister of the gf was arrested on an unrelated charge and hung her self note long after on his birthday. She was the gf of the man my cousin was having problems with right befor it happened. Maybe having a dedicated group of great people like you all would have drew some more attention and found some real evidence. Crazy right?

[Sincere]

what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

This thread has a life of its own, its life blood may wane because of no arrests and explode when arrests are made. It wont end but it may be replaced by something more bizzare to reap our attention.

I honestly don't know what I will do when this is all over ( if it ever is ) , but I have now learned how to look up everyone's criminal record in Lucas county and I think I have checked out every friend and family member , and 98 % of them are clean of any criminal wrongdoings !!!

[BellaMia]

typo sorry ***not long afte*** not note lol

[AriGold]

disclaimer:

somewhat

feel free to disregard...

so this may make me unpopular here and is totally worthless in relation to the discussion of finding justice, but i have been following this since the beginning, and at this point i am very curious to what your answers might be to my question: what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

but, heaven forbid, as we all know, it may come to where this isn't solved for a very long time, or not at all. so at what point do you call it quits and find another forum to follow? it has been said more than once that we don't know any more at page 700+ than we did at page 5, so...?

also i have watched many of you say that you have become addicted to this thread, and i have seen some "friendships" seem to form as a result of posting on here. so, i am just curious...what happens if they announce a promising arrest soon? and, if not, at what point does this thread melt away?

i half-ass apologize if i seem like a dick with this post as i have had no legitimate posts thus far (as i have no info worth your time to read), but i am just curious. i am very interested in the sociology behind the commeraderie that i have seen so many of you share behind this tragic event.

and p.s.: though i haven't been actively involved, i have been following you all since day one, and i've been hooked as well, so...

While this case was unique and is tragic, it wasn't the first - nor will it be the last - that captures people's attention.

Terrible shit happens every day and I'm sure we'll all find the next "hot" case to discuss -- now that we're all here.

*shrugs*

[Countryside_Belle]

Here's a lovely quote form Sheriff Shiavone:

As far as traffic violations this month, the sheriff’s office issued 11 DWIs, 136 speeding tickets and 17 tickets for driving while under suspension. “That’s really becoming an outrageous thing,” Schiavone said about driving while under suspension. “Last month, there were 27. The month before, there were 30. Nobody has licenses anymore. I don’t know what it is.”

WOW!! I just showed these stats to my husband, who is in LE. He said that these numbers are "insanely ridiculous" for an entire county!!! :O

He works in a SMALL, QUIET town in the south. He said that HE averages 2 DUIs, 45 speeding cases (typically warnings), and 10 driving under suspensions, AND 10 drug cases per month. Keep in mind that this is ONE person in a SMALL town working DAY SHIFT!!! Many of his numbers would be higher if he worked nights and would be off the charts if he worked in an area like this!!

And those numbers are from an ENTIRE COUNTY and all of their deputies compiled!!!!

He said its no wonder all this is going on!!

He is a good, fair cop who is in it for all the right reasons! He is in it to help others and to make a difference!

Unfortunately, not all cops share his values and work ethic!!! :O

Gary, I thought this entire time you were a dude. My apologies.

[Countryside_Belle]

*neighborhood talk*

Heard today that the Straub's have been moving furniture out of their house and have not been staying there. So sad.

Oh, man, I'm actually glad to hear that. I cannot imagine having to live in the house where your child was murdered. I hope that family, friends, work buddies, church, whatever, all pitched in to help them.

I sincerely wish nothing but peace and healing to the families involved, here's hoping that if a new home is found/moved into, that they may heal there and in someway find even a tid bit of peace.....if not now then hopefully soon.