Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

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I wish I knew about these well more this forum existed when my cousin died. He was ruled a suicide. I guess some one can stab their self through thier breast plate 4 times and then after losing all that blood and I would imagine being extremly weak proceed to slice his own throat. Then his gf decides not to ride in the ambulance and stay behind and clean the house blood, evidence, Etc. befor the detectives arrive. Oh lets not forget the sister of the gf was arrested on an unrelated charge and hung her self note long after on his birthday. She was the gf of the man my cousin was having problems with right befor it happened. Maybe having a dedicated group of great people like you all would have drew some more attention and found some real evidence. Crazy right?

OMG, BellaMia. His death was ruled a suicide?!!! That case needs to be reopened. That's an atrocity.

[imsuchawildflower]

YES

I just dont see how someone could kill for the first time, this way.
This is someone with the stomach for torture etc. Blood lust so to speak.

Yea I agree. Does anyone know if autopsy reports are public if so where to see it? I sorta feel bad for being so nosey about a case like this when the families are in such devistation, but the way this murder happened and it being so long after with no word on suspects or progress my curiosity is getting the better of me. I guess it doesn't help that they can read I'm being nosey lol I think it must be more of me feeling guilty then sad. SMH

Only the preliminary autopsy results have been released, but I havent been
able to find it. Someone said the rest (the final report) will probably be
sealed until trial.

I know this is probbaly really dumb considering my only resource is tv haha but I thought in cases like this where there might be DNA or evidence on the bodies that the bodies couldnt be released for burrial until the reports were all back.

They are back...just not being released.

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what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

This thread has a life of its own, its life blood may wane because of no arrests and explode when arrests are made. It wont end but it may be replaced by something more bizzare to reap our attention.

I honestly don't know what I will do when this is all over ( if it ever is ) , but I have now learned how to look up everyone's criminal record in Lucas county and I think I have checked out every friend and family member , and 98 % of them are clean of any criminal wrongdoings !!!

I can hardly stand the sight of Facebook now.

[BellaMia]

I wish I knew about these well more this forum existed when my cousin died. He was ruled a suicide. I guess some one can stab their self through thier breast plate 4 times and then after losing all that blood and I would imagine being extremly weak proceed to slice his own throat. Then his gf decides not to ride in the ambulance and stay behind and clean the house blood, evidence, Etc. befor the detectives arrive. Oh lets not forget the sister of the gf was arrested on an unrelated charge and hung her self note long after on his birthday. She was the gf of the man my cousin was having problems with right befor it happened. Maybe having a dedicated group of great people like you all would have drew some more attention and found some real evidence. Crazy right?

Very possible.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the discussions (e.g. thoughts, theories, etc) on Mock play a part in how this case (or any other on here) plays out.

Yea I agree. No offense to anyone here but I was truely suprised at the amount information obtained by the members of this forum and the amount of time and dedication put into getting it. In my defense again I did not know to much about these sort of forums. They certainy can be useful. Factful as well. (hahahah if thats a word or me thinking im smarted then I am. jk more or less a sleep deprived women drawing blanks)

[AriGold]

Theres that saying gos something like- theres not much of difference between serial killers/murders and cops/detectives you either committ the crimes or the closest you get to it is solving them something along those lines.
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"When I was your age, they would say, we can become cops or criminals. Today, what I'm saying to you is this: When you are facing a loaded gun...What's the difference?"

--Francis Costello / The Departed

[imsuchawildflower]

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Ha you ignorant mockers you wish you all knew wat i know and you just showed me how brainless you really are to think that i would ever post any info and leads to my son johnny n lisas case on here or any sights you dumb dumb n dumber stupid mocking fuckers now i really know your all ignorant=stupid
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You stupid trashy mockers are a poor excuse for human life keep talking your sewer trashy lies n speculating on stuff your clueless about oh and sendin your spies wanna be cops to investigate n try to get info wat a true waste of life you are they will never know wat we know oh and im still waiting for you to jump of the nearest bridge you patgetic excuse for human life jump jump jump please or choke choke choke
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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez And fyi i can use any of my pages to say wat i want how i want wen i want where i want mind your own bussiness n stay out of ours its about justice being served on the evil demons that took my son n lisa not about a story for you to gossip n trash our kids n families on you pathetic life forms....its never about me or seeking attention everything i do n say has a motive behind it you brainless worms so fuck off
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[BellaMia]

Makes one wonder just what is true and what isn't. Two people. Two
different views of the casket. Ouch. Wonder how much else on here is
absolute bs? One of the two above is incorrect.

I attended an open casket viewing of a murder victim who was beaten, about the head and neck with a hammer. Bruises were visible. It was horrid.

Oh my thats something I'm sure bothered you for quite some time. Must of been gruesome. Did they warn anyone how bad it was befor hand?

[Sincere]

what are you all going to do when this is "over"? and at what point will it be "over"?

ideally (i would assume), it will be "over" when an arrest is made and you can all go over your past theories and reminisce over who was right and who was close to getting it "right" (i.e. "it was a hit, i was right", or "it was the family, i hit it on the nose", or "it was the thug friends, i told you!", etc. etc.").

This thread has a life of its own, its life blood may wane because of no arrests and explode when arrests are made. It wont end but it may be replaced by something more bizzare to reap our attention.

I honestly don't know what I will do when this is all over ( if it ever is ) , but I have now learned how to look up everyone's criminal record in Lucas county and I think I have checked out every friend and family member , and 98 % of them are clean of any criminal wrongdoings !!!

I can hardly stand the sight of Facebook now.

SOrry , I meant to say MY friends and family members .

[shitstorm]

SS...I have found you point of view and your arguements to be thought provoking for me. I am still trying to relocate the Utube file you posted about the economy and stock market depending on drug activity. It was a women addressing about 30 members of an organization and 29 answered they would not stop this criminal activity if it had dire economic consequences.

Catherine Austin Fitts is her name. She's an intellectual heavy and an expert in finance and corruption. 9-11 truther, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T40QWrlGRiY

her website - http://solari.com/

[shitstorm]

Makes one wonder just what is true and what isn't. Two people. Two
different views of the casket. Ouch. Wonder how much else on here is
absolute bs? One of the two above is incorrect.

I attended an open casket viewing of a murder victim who was beaten, about the head and neck with a hammer. Bruises were visible. It was horrid.

Oh my thats something I'm sure bothered you for quite some time. Must of been gruesome. Did they warn anyone how bad it was befor hand?

No, no warnings and you had look closely to see. There was a lot of make up. She was also buried in a wedding dress. It was very macabre. It was what her mother wanted. Funerals are not my cup of tea and I prefer cremation.

[shitstorm]

I can hardly stand the sight of Facebook now.

SOrry , I meant to say MY friends and family members .

Oh, yeah, I know

I'm just sick of even opening the damn site, lol. I didn't go there much, anyway, but I'll never be able to go there again without drifting off to check out some gang bangers.

[Countryside_Belle]

Makes one wonder just what is true and what isn't. Two people. Two
different views of the casket. Ouch. Wonder how much else on here is
absolute bs? One of the two above is incorrect.

I attended an open casket viewing of a murder victim who was beaten, about the head and neck with a hammer. Bruises were visible. It was horrid.

Oh my thats something I'm sure bothered you for quite some time. Must of been gruesome. Did they warn anyone how bad it was befor hand?

No, no warnings and you had look closely to see. There was a lot of make up. She was also buried in a wedding dress. It was very macabre. It was what her mother wanted. Funerals are not my cup of tea and I prefer cremation.

Ugh. That's too bad. I think everyone should have their shit together and get an advance directive as well as their wishes for burial/cremation/death, etc. figured out ahead of time. I go back and forth with the burial vs. cremation thing.

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BellaMia, there is no statute of limitation on murder. That anyone stabbed multiple times was ruled a suicide is just a sickening injustice.

[Inspector Gary]

[quote='Adub' pid='140387' dateline='1299283605']
Here's a lovely quote form Sheriff Shiavone:

As far as traffic violations this month, the sheriff’s office issued 11 DWIs, 136 speeding tickets and 17 tickets for driving while under suspension. “That’s really becoming an outrageous thing,” Schiavone said about driving while under suspension. “Last month, there were 27. The month before, there were 30. Nobody has licenses anymore. I don’t know what it is.”

Gary, I thought this entire time you were a dude. My apologies.

Your apologies????
I think I told her I was in love with her at one point!
I'm a woman and I'm not a gay one (no offense if any of you are, though).

*good wine hiccup*
Aw, nevermind Native. I should be apologizing for the thinking out loud comment. lol
I really thought this entire time Gary was a dude, I dunno, it's weird.
You know how you have a thought/vision of what some of these members are, look like, etc. by their posts, etc.?
Maybe the Gary name thing threw me off.
Any who, thanks Gary for all the research you have done here. *hiccup*

That's funny, about how you "have a thought/vision of what some of these members..." cause I'm the same way!! Now, you will have to come up with another idea of what I'm like!! I made up a female "alter ego" name for my husband, who is a very manly man, because it just struck me as the most off the wall nickname for him! He then followed suit, dubbing me "Gary." So, every time I hear Gary, I can't help but laugh!! Sorry if anyone is named Gary!!!

[BellaMia]

I wish I knew about these well more this forum existed when my cousin died. He was ruled a suicide. I guess some one can stab their self through thier breast plate 4 times and then after losing all that blood and I would imagine being extremly weak proceed to slice his own throat. Then his gf decides not to ride in the ambulance and stay behind and clean the house blood, evidence, Etc. befor the detectives arrive. Oh lets not forget the sister of the gf was arrested on an unrelated charge and hung her self note long after on his birthday. She was the gf of the man my cousin was having problems with right befor it happened. Maybe having a dedicated group of great people like you all would have drew some more attention and found some real evidence. Crazy right?

OMG, BellaMia. His death was ruled a suicide?!!! That case needs to be reopened. That's an atrocity.

Yes i feel the same way. If you ever want to look at the autopsy reports and clipings let me know I will have my cousin thend them to me and email them to you or his name. But yes ruled a suicide.

[shitstorm]

Makes one wonder just what is true and what isn't. Two people. Two
different views of the casket. Ouch. Wonder how much else on here is
absolute bs? One of the two above is incorrect.

I attended an open casket viewing of a murder victim who was beaten, about the head and neck with a hammer. Bruises were visible. It was horrid.

Oh my thats something I'm sure bothered you for quite some time. Must of been gruesome. Did they warn anyone how bad it was befor hand?

No, no warnings and you had look closely to see. There was a lot of make up. She was also buried in a wedding dress. It was very macabre. It was what her mother wanted. Funerals are not my cup of tea and I prefer cremation.

Ugh. That's too bad. I think everyone should have their shit together and get an advance directive as well as their wishes for burial/cremation/death, etc. figured out ahead of time. I go back and forth with the burial vs. cremation thing.

I have a friend who is a trout fisherman. He wants to be buried in the bank of a stream so the fish can eat him. Kind of a complete the cycle sort of thing.

[shitstorm]

I wish I knew about these well more this forum existed when my cousin died. He was ruled a suicide. I guess some one can stab their self through thier breast plate 4 times and then after losing all that blood and I would imagine being extremly weak proceed to slice his own throat. Then his gf decides not to ride in the ambulance and stay behind and clean the house blood, evidence, Etc. befor the detectives arrive. Oh lets not forget the sister of the gf was arrested on an unrelated charge and hung her self note long after on his birthday. She was the gf of the man my cousin was having problems with right befor it happened. Maybe having a dedicated group of great people like you all would have drew some more attention and found some real evidence. Crazy right?

OMG, BellaMia. His death was ruled a suicide?!!! That case needs to be reopened. That's an atrocity.

Yes i feel the same way. If you ever want to look at the autopsy reports and clipings let me know I will have my cousin thend them to me and email them to you or his name. But yes ruled a suicide.

If the reports can be emailed to you, they can be uploaded to a file that we can all see. If you don't know how to do that, someone can help. Then you can start a thread on it. His murder should not be written off like that.

[Countryside_Belle]

I attended an open casket viewing of a murder victim who was beaten, about the head and neck with a hammer. Bruises were visible. It was horrid.

Oh my thats something I'm sure bothered you for quite some time. Must of been gruesome. Did they warn anyone how bad it was befor hand?

No, no warnings and you had look closely to see. There was a lot of make up. She was also buried in a wedding dress. It was very macabre. It was what her mother wanted. Funerals are not my cup of tea and I prefer cremation.

Ugh. That's too bad. I think everyone should have their shit together and get an advance directive as well as their wishes for burial/cremation/death, etc. figured out ahead of time. I go back and forth with the burial vs. cremation thing.

I have a friend who is a trout fisherman. He wants to be buried in the bank of a stream so the fish can eat him. Kind of a complete the cycle sort of thing.

I think that's kind of cool, actually. I had a Hospice client last year that LOVED carnivorous plants, and bogs, and all sorts of strange plant life.
Yep, some of her ashes were spread out to the plants at a local nursery that she adored.....

[Countryside_Belle]

I wish I knew about these well more this forum existed when my cousin died. He was ruled a suicide. I guess some one can stab their self through thier breast plate 4 times and then after losing all that blood and I would imagine being extremly weak proceed to slice his own throat. Then his gf decides not to ride in the ambulance and stay behind and clean the house blood, evidence, Etc. befor the detectives arrive. Oh lets not forget the sister of the gf was arrested on an unrelated charge and hung her self note long after on his birthday. She was the gf of the man my cousin was having problems with right befor it happened. Maybe having a dedicated group of great people like you all would have drew some more attention and found some real evidence. Crazy right?

OMG, BellaMia. His death was ruled a suicide?!!! That case needs to be reopened. That's an atrocity.

Yes i feel the same way. If you ever want to look at the autopsy reports and clipings let me know I will have my cousin thend them to me and email them to you or his name. But yes ruled a suicide.

If the reports can be emailed to you, they can be uploaded to a file that we can all see. If you don't know how to do that, someone can help. Then you can start a thread on it. His murder should not be written off like that.

I'd be interested as well Bella....the thread idea is a good one

[BellaMia]

I wish I knew about these well more this forum existed when my cousin died. He was ruled a suicide. I guess some one can stab their self through thier breast plate 4 times and then after losing all that blood and I would imagine being extremly weak proceed to slice his own throat. Then his gf decides not to ride in the ambulance and stay behind and clean the house blood, evidence, Etc. befor the detectives arrive. Oh lets not forget the sister of the gf was arrested on an unrelated charge and hung her self note long after on his birthday. She was the gf of the man my cousin was having problems with right befor it happened. Maybe having a dedicated group of great people like you all would have drew some more attention and found some real evidence. Crazy right?

OMG, BellaMia. His death was ruled a suicide?!!! That case needs to be reopened. That's an atrocity.

Yes i feel the same way. If you ever want to look at the autopsy reports and clipings let me know I will have my cousin thend them to me and email them to you or his name. But yes ruled a suicide.

If the reports can be emailed to you, they can be uploaded to a file that we can all see. If you don't know how to do that, someone can help. Then you can start a thread on it. His murder should not be written off like that.

Ok well we can start a thread on it. I will have her send the info to me thats not public and get the rest my self. Then we can take a shot at it.