Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[cjcisneros]

MAN That damn lady always has something to say! (bullshit) at that! Shes posted something else on her RIP page! I feel for both families I REALLY DO! Shes just off her damn rocker! Im tired of the shit that comes out her mouth! I understand being ANGRY and HURT and even CRAZY! I WAS! but I WOULD NEVER LASH OUT THE WAY SHE HAS! I would not treat people whom r honestly there for me like shit! HINT HINT! She talks about everyone else but yet she seems to stay posted to her phone/internet ²⁴⁄₇ just to post some BS! UGH! IM OVER HER! completely!

Why don't you just stay away and quit obsessing about it.

:agreed:


JsMom, I was appalled at how you acted on the original FB "Justice" page. You, a complete stranger, had the audacity to try and come off as Maytee's biggest supporter and new bff.

If anyone else followed the original "Justice" page and saw how you clung to Maytee and posted that you loved her, and were there for her , then THEY WILL UNDERSTAND where I am coming from!!


Maytee is OBVIOUSLY off her rocker- BUT she is NOT the ONLY ONE!!! Within a matter of minutes, you went from supporting Maytee to bashing her on this forum. I do not agree with Maytee and the way that she is lashing out. BUT worse than her behavior, is YOURS!!! She is obviously extremely unstable and devastated and has made VERY bad decisions. AGREED. BUT who are you to TARGET a grieving mother and then LASH OUT at HER?!?!??!?!

Seriously, it is one thing for people to view Maytee as a crazy woman who needs to stop running her mouth. :stir_shit: And it is fine to posts all those thoughts on this forum!! But when you slither your way into her personal life to the point of her feeling comfortable enough with you to text you from her phone, then that is JUST SICK!!! And then, after you have pushed your way into her life, and then send nasty texts to her cell phone calling her a "BITCH" - you really look like a LOWLIFE, even next to the likes of Maytee. :O


In my opinon, YOU CRAWLED UP her ASS and SHE FARTED YOU OUT!!!

Gives a whole other dimension to POOF BE GONE!!!!

Hear, hear, Inspector Gary!!! I agree with every word you've said.

BRAVO!

I totally agree as I myself had stated on i don't remember if it was here or not that M was illiciting a reaction from Maytee. I also thought it was weird to tell someone u don't even know that u love them ! That being said I love Mock and hope that there will be a arrest soon so that there can be some kind of closure for the families of these kids. I know I would probably never be the same if something like this happened to one of my children. I can't even imagine how I would deal with it !

[notsure]

The police are no one's friend and trust me, they do not act in our own best interests.

well isnt that the biggest crock of shit Ive ever read...

No, that is true....mainly when you are committing crimes though.

[AriGold]

Twat.

[WolfHouse]

Abaracadabra Please and Thank You. Turn Page.

[JsMom]

I have lost all respect for Maytee. She showed her true colors by all the tirades and voodoo garbage she posts on facebook. I feel for her as a mother who lost her son, but IMHO as person she is a classless piece of trash.

Well HELLO, Mr. Tracy! LOL!

Yes, I'm done talking to Maytee and talking about her bullshit.
And I refuse to bash a mother who has to go through this, eventhough I do believe she raised her son in an environment that was a recipe for disaster. But I'm not going to sit here and badmouth her, either. I'm just done with her.

G-Morning ToledoNative!
I agree with you, but it struck a nerve with her comments about people from Mock. We all want justice for Johnny & Lisa!

EXACTLY! I agree with the both of YOU

[JsMom]

FYI, Based on the 'RIP Johnny' FB page, Maytee seems considerably calmer in the last 10 hours or so.

I think the lithium kicked in.

or the famous (FUKITOL) pill

[ZEROSPHERES]

I have heard that she was worse than him and it was a closed casket

This is the first time I've read that. Is that a fact or hearsay?

I think its been established that LS had an open casket. I refer you earlier posts establishing that:



<yesterday 05:56 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:
<yesterday 05:17 PM)ToledoNative Wrote:
<yesterday 05:13 PM)concerned Wrote:
<yesterday 05:07 PM)ToledoNative Wrote: I have seen the pics of Johnny in his casket. His face is not mutilated.

You would be amazed at what Morticians can do


I have seen a person in their casket who had a gun shot wound to the head. They tried to make him look normal, it didn't work. If the head is swollen, which would happen if he was beaten, they can't do much for swelling and lacerations.




I'm looking at the picture of JC in the casket, and there is no visible swelling or marks. Has anyone seen pics of Lisa in the casket?no, her parents did not post any on the internet. but i understand she did have an open casket.

[JsMom]

Why don't you just stay away and quit obsessing about it.

:agreed:


JsMom, I was appalled at how you acted on the original FB "Justice" page. You, a complete stranger, had the audacity to try and come off as Maytee's biggest supporter and new bff.

If anyone else followed the original "Justice" page and saw how you clung to Maytee and posted that you loved her, and were there for her , then THEY WILL UNDERSTAND where I am coming from!!


Maytee is OBVIOUSLY off her rocker- BUT she is NOT the ONLY ONE!!! Within a matter of minutes, you went from supporting Maytee to bashing her on this forum. I do not agree with Maytee and the way that she is lashing out. BUT worse than her behavior, is YOURS!!! She is obviously extremely unstable and devastated and has made VERY bad decisions. AGREED. BUT who are you to TARGET a grieving mother and then LASH OUT at HER?!?!??!?!

Seriously, it is one thing for people to view Maytee as a crazy woman who needs to stop running her mouth. :stir_shit: And it is fine to posts all those thoughts on this forum!! But when you slither your way into her personal life to the point of her feeling comfortable enough with you to text you from her phone, then that is JUST SICK!!! And then, after you have pushed your way into her life, and then send nasty texts to her cell phone calling her a "BITCH" - you really look like a LOWLIFE, even next to the likes of Maytee. :O


In my opinon, YOU CRAWLED UP her ASS and SHE FARTED YOU OUT!!!

Gives a whole other dimension to POOF BE GONE!!!!

Hear, hear, Inspector Gary!!! I agree with every word you've said.

BRAVO!

I totally agree as I myself had stated on i don't remember if it was here or not that M was illiciting a reaction from Maytee. I also thought it was weird to tell someone u don't even know that u love them ! That being said I love Mock and hope that there will be a arrest soon so that there can be some kind of closure for the families of these kids. I know I would probably never be the same if something like this happened to one of my children. I can't even imagine how I would deal with it !

This is the last Im going to comment on these posts! I DID LOVE HER IN A FRIENDSHIP KINDA WAY! I TRIED TO BE THERE FOR HER AS A "friend" BECAUSE I HAVE LOST A CHILD I didnt have no one there for me! I know ALL ABOUT GRIEVING! NOW~IM DONE WITH ALL THIS BS! I have MY DAMN REASONS why I no longer feel bad for her! I do in the sense of losing a child but nothing more! HELL SHES ON THERE WISHIN DEATH ON ALL US MOCKERS AND OUR KIDS! COME ON NOW MAYBE U ALL DONT CARE BUT I DO! sorry

[JsMom]

I truly hope LE can find whom this DNA belongs 2! Does anyone think whom might of done this has left the country??

[ToledoNative]

It's all that damn "gangsta rap" that's ruining these kids' lives.

Hahaha! Now that some funny stuff, right there! Hahaha! Wack ass Charlie Sheen as a gansta!!!

[van64]

I truly hope LE can find whom this DNA belongs 2! Does anyone think whom might of done this has left the country??

LOL apparently LE is leaning to them having left the country. I guess that's their solution to crime in the Toledo area: allow them to get away.

[EastCoastKat]

But with the DNA, on the crime shows on tv anyway, there have been times and occasions where LE asked for DNA samples with the thought process to CLEAR an individual. If you had nothing to hide, wouldn't you give a DNA sample--but never take a polygraph? And if you refused to voluntarily give a DNA sample, I would imagine your stock would soar on LE's suspicion scale.[/color]

I'd have to be in deep shit before I'd give my DNA to anybody. If I did, I would have a lawyer draw up some iron clad contract that it had to be destroyed after my being cleared. I'd be afraid of it getting mixed up, with real criminals, by some half assed lab worker or corrupt individual. I'm paranoid like that, lol.

There was a bizarre cold case, in Michigan, where an old murder got pinned on some guy who was currently in prison. Okay, that wasn't too far out but for this - he would have been like 8 years old when the adult murder victim was killed 30 years ago. What does THAT tell you? I'm also very suspicious of the motivations behind the human genome project which is all about collecting the DNA of everyone on earth.

Exactly you would want an iron clad guarantee that your DNA is not going to be misused. The old murder case in Michigan...was that DNA related? I thought DNA was pretty much the pinnacle in deciding who was guilty/innocent.

It was on some teevee show, like Cold Case Files, or something. New science, that did not exist at the time of the murder, allowed for old evidence to be tested for DNA. They got a match to a guy in prison but the murder was like 30 years old and the guy was just a little kid at that time, living in some other town! That tells me the lab got shit mixed up!

This is long, sorry...

There are many reasons for giving up your DNA, my sister disappeared in 1983 and it took us over 19yrs, fucking 19yrs before they would even accept her as a missing person, she lived in Chicago...she disappeared in Canada...Chicago sent us to Canada....Canada sent us to Chicago...The FBI sent us back to Chicago...and NONE of these MOTHERFUCKERS would do anything because she wasn't officially a Missing Person, I got the whole catch 22 run around for 19yrs!! I wrote more letters than you can imagine, checked hospitals, institutions, churches in the area she disappeared from, check routes that she may have traveled to get to Canada, most of my family had given up or died, my mother died never knowing what happened to her daughter, only myself and my younger sister wouldn't let it go, my other siblings just let it go...I couldn't, she was my big sister, who we called "Sissie". When I got my first computer in the 90's I found a group on the internet called The Doe Network and this was set up for missing and unidentified woman, they also required a formal missing persons report but the Administrator made an exception because of the years and effort involved on my part in trying to get my sister disappearance classified as a missing person...long story made really, really, terribly short here...in 2002 we got someone in the Canada end of things to finally help, he was an Angel of a cop let me tell you, CAM MOORE of the Moosejaw, SK police, he also was involved in a Cold Case group, Project Resolve, it was his hobby, not official. There were a few unidentified females that could have been my sister, and Cam got the Canooks to pay for the DNA test, so yes I RAN, ME THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT HIPPIE FROM THE 60'S, TO GIVE UP MY DNA AS FAST AS I COULD TO THE LOCAL COPS AND SAID SWAB. My sister was found in 2005 she had died in 1987(only 4 short years later)under an alias and was buried under that alias. She was showing signs of mental illness before she left for this Canada trip, but little did we know just how bad things were (she became a full blown paranoid/schizophrenic). I wasn't living in Chicago and hadn't seen her for about 3yrs. so I really had no idea, she was very good at keeping up a I'm okay face. She died of natural causes, a pulmonary embolism. I had even contacted the detectives that were on the Green River Killer case thinking she may been one of his victims and Det. Jensen of that case was just wonderful to me, he checked every known data base he could for me, even though he believed my sister wasn't one of the victims because the GR killer had a type, still he told me how to get things done, how to approach the police, because no cop wants a cold case handed to them. The Canadian officer (a selfless, decent, giving human being) who cracked this case, Corpral Cam Moore, passed away a few years later of cancer, so it was like fate that we some how connected. But I gave my DNA up in a flash!! Sorry for the long story..but you would be surprised how fast you'd give up some DNA!!

Sometimes police will get a DNA hit because of familial DNA, a close family member, also. That may have been what happened in Mich. to the guy in prison??

[JsMom]

I truly hope LE can find whom this DNA belongs 2! Does anyone think whom might of done this has left the country??

LOL apparently LE is leaning to them having left the country. I guess that's their solution to crime in the Toledo area: allow them to get away.

that terrible! I got to thinkin and i wanted to get some opinions so Thanks Van!!!

[ToledoNative]

Back to the "what happens after this case is solved?"

It makes me sad to think of not talking to you all on here everyday :(

I'm an insanely busy person, but getting on here with people who have intelligent and insightful things to say, makes it worth my time.

I guess I will find another thread on Mock after the fact (no time right now).

[EastCoastKat]

So, like someone said about Cops, there are good, there are bad, and there are the ugly, and then there are a few, like the ones I met while searching for my sister, who will give of themselves when everybody else had turned away or has fallen by the wayside or flat out just didn't care, and it is those few who are truly remarkable with what they do for someone they never even knew, and for no other reason than because it was their job, wow!

[EastCoastKat]

Back to the "what happens after this case is solved?"

It makes me sad to think of not talking to you all on here everyday :(

I'm an insanely busy person, but getting on here with people who have intelligent and insightful things to say, makes it worth my time.

I guess I will find another thread on Mock after the fact (no time right now).

Ditto, I know I'll be sticking around! It's really nice to have Lady Cop's point of view too, I really appreciate it!

[EastCoastKat]

OH a new page!! That's one droopy dick,,,,,,

[ToledoNative]

Back to the "what happens after this case is solved?"

It makes me sad to think of not talking to you all on here everyday :(

I'm an insanely busy person, but getting on here with people who have intelligent and insightful things to say, makes it worth my time.

I guess I will find another thread on Mock after the fact (no time right now).

Ditto, I know I'll be sticking around! It's really nice to have Lady Cop's point of view too, I really appreciate it!

Yeah, too bad Maytee couldn't see how dedicated the people on here are. We could've been one hell of a support system 24/7.

[aileen]

The only reason there is an ignore feature is because it's part of the software. I would never willingly add something like that to a site like Mock. In order for one to enjoy the luxury of free speech one has to take the bad with the good.

Well it works for me. They still have their *freedom of speech*. I just choose not to read/see it. Not to mention, it cuts down on the posts that I am always trying to catch up with.lol

[lawheeze]

This is long, sorry...

There are many reasons for giving up your DNA, my sister disappeared in 1983 and it took us over 19yrs, fucking 19yrs before they would even accept her as a missing person, she lived in Chicago...she disappeared in Canada...Chicago sent us to Canada....Canada sent us to Chicago...The FBI sent us back to Chicago...and NONE of these MOTHERFUCKERS would do anything because she wasn't officially a Missing Person, I got the whole catch 22 run around for 19yrs!! I wrote more letters than you can imagine, checked hospitals, institutions, churches in the area she disappeared from, check routes that she may have traveled to get to Canada, most of my family had given up or died, my mother died never knowing what happened to her daughter, only myself and my younger sister wouldn't let it go, my other siblings just let it go...I couldn't, she was my big sister, who we called "Sissie". When I got my first computer in the 90's I found a group on the internet called The Doe Network and this was set up for missing and unidentified woman, they also required a formal missing persons report but the Administrator made an exception because of the years and effort involved on my part in trying to get my sister disappearance classified as a missing person...long story made really, really, terribly short here...in 2002 we got someone in the Canada end of things to finally help, he was an Angel of a cop let me tell you, CAM MOORE of the Moosejaw, SK police, he also was involved in a Cold Case group, Project Resolve, it was his hobby, not official. There were a few unidentified females that could have been my sister, and Cam got the Canooks to pay for the DNA test, so yes I RAN, ME THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT HIPPIE FROM THE 60'S, TO GIVE UP MY DNA AS FAST AS I COULD TO THE LOCAL COPS AND SAID SWAB. My sister was found in 2005 she had died in 1987(only 4 short years later)under an alias and was buried under that alias. She was showing signs of mental illness before she left for this Canada trip, but little did we know just how bad things were (she became a full blown paranoid/schizophrenic). I wasn't living in Chicago and hadn't seen her for about 3yrs. so I really had no idea, she was very good at keeping up a I'm okay face. She died of natural causes, a pulmonary embolism. I had even contacted the detectives that were on the Green River Killer case thinking she may been one of his victims and Det. Jensen of that case was just wonderful to me, he checked every known data base he could for me, even though he believed my sister wasn't one of the victims because the GR killer had a type, still he told me how to get things done, how to approach the police, because no cop wants a cold case handed to them. The Canadian officer (a selfless, decent, giving human being) who cracked this case, Corpral Cam Moore, passed away a few years later of cancer, so it was like fate that we some how connected. But I gave my DNA up in a flash!! Sorry for the long story..but you would be surprised how fast you'd give up some DNA!!

Sometimes police will get a DNA hit because of familial DNA, a close family member, also. That may have been what happened in Mich. to the guy in prison??

Thanks for sharing that story, ECK.