Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[aussiefriend]

We have fox news here, I watch it sometimes

Faux news, aussie? For shame. *shakes head*

in small doses its interesting. Its blatanly biaised but its still nice to have a quick look. When the scott peterson trial and mj trial was on they were very good at their coverage.

[Lady Cop]

for those who haven't seen it, the billboard---->

[Jane]

Trying to catch up, but I noticed something about us being reported to homeland security ??? LMAO

[Adub]

I read that Ohio just passed the law allowing DNA on arrest for a felony but that they do not have the funding in place. So new law not yet happening. But if the guilty party has already been convicted of a felony, Toledo is good to go.

In CA, DNA is taken after an arrest for a felony. And I always thought it was way messed up. Based solely on the fact that even the arrested are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Someone close to me was arrested on a BOGUS charge of cultivation (felony) (w/ a $75,000 bail posted by me) and the DA never filed charges. But yet DNA was taken. And I was out a couple of thousand bucks that went to Alladin.

But then I read in the news that this asswipe was arrested and charged with a horrendous murder all because of a DNA match made after an arrest for an unrelated felony.

http://crimevoice.com/dna-match-may-have...rder-3411/

They got the bastard and he will be held accountable.

So if someone close to me gets the DNA swab in a messed up situation, so be it. Stop getting yourself in messed-up situations.

[doing40thisyear]

OH a new page!! That's one droopy dick,,,,,,

EAST COAST KAT...U JUST MADE ME LAUGH..i havent been on ...for awhile...and that was the 1^st comment I had seen

[Duchess]

Maybe we should inundate the mayors office with emails regarding this case.

[Lady Cop]

about the DNA taken upon arrest...fingerprints are taken upon arrest. DNA is no different or more invasive. we NEED a national database. that's another topic/thread, but it is a tool for LE that is most helpful, especially in cases of rape and serial murder.

[EastCoastKat]

Maybe we should inundate the mayors office with emails regarding this case.

I already have, well the Sheriffs anyway, lol, as Jane Q Public!!

[Duchess]

I am astounded at the number of forums that appear to be lifting comments made in this thread & info from the facts thread and posting it in their own forums. I hadn't really looked outside of Mock for information, imagine my surprise when I did.

[JsMom]

Back to the "what happens after this case is solved?"

It makes me sad to think of not talking to you all on here everyday :(

I'm an insanely busy person, but getting on here with people who have intelligent and insightful things to say, makes it worth my time.

I guess I will find another thread on Mock after the fact (no time right now).

Ditto, I know I'll be sticking around! It's really nice to have Lady Cop's point of view too, I really appreciate it!

I love Mock and everyone on mock in some way shape or form! WE ALL JUST WANT JUSTICE!

[onefortheroad]

This is long, sorry...

There are many reasons for giving up your DNA, my sister disappeared in 1983 and it took us over 19yrs, fucking 19yrs before they would even accept her as a missing person, she lived in Chicago...she disappeared in Canada...Chicago sent us to Canada....Canada sent us to Chicago...The FBI sent us back to Chicago...and NONE of these MOTHERFUCKERS would do anything because she wasn't officially a Missing Person, I got the whole catch 22 run around for 19yrs!! I wrote more letters than you can imagine, checked hospitals, institutions, churches in the area she disappeared from, check routes that she may have traveled to get to Canada, most of my family had given up or died, my mother died never knowing what happened to her daughter, only myself and my younger sister wouldn't let it go, my other siblings just let it go...I couldn't, she was my big sister, who we called "Sissie". When I got my first computer in the 90's I found a group on the internet called The Doe Network and this was set up for missing and unidentified woman, they also required a formal missing persons report but the Administrator made an exception because of the years and effort involved on my part in trying to get my sister disappearance classified as a missing person...long story made really, really, terribly short here...in 2002 we got someone in the Canada end of things to finally help, he was an Angel of a cop let me tell you, CAM MOORE of the Moosejaw, SK police, he also was involved in a Cold Case group, Project Resolve, it was his hobby, not official. There were a few unidentified females that could have been my sister, and Cam got the Canooks to pay for the DNA test, so yes I RAN, ME THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT HIPPIE FROM THE 60'S, TO GIVE UP MY DNA AS FAST AS I COULD TO THE LOCAL COPS AND SAID SWAB. My sister was found in 2005 she had died in 1987(only 4 short years later)under an alias and was buried under that alias. She was showing signs of mental illness before she left for this Canada trip, but little did we know just how bad things were (she became a full blown paranoid/schizophrenic). I wasn't living in Chicago and hadn't seen her for about 3yrs. so I really had no idea, she was very good at keeping up a I'm okay face. She died of natural causes, a pulmonary embolism. I had even contacted the detectives that were on the Green River Killer case thinking she may been one of his victims and Det. Jensen of that case was just wonderful to me, he checked every known data base he could for me, even though he believed my sister wasn't one of the victims because the GR killer had a type, still he told me how to get things done, how to approach the police, because no cop wants a cold case handed to them. The Canadian officer (a selfless, decent, giving human being) who cracked this case, Corpral Cam Moore, passed away a few years later of cancer, so it was like fate that we some how connected. But I gave my DNA up in a flash!! Sorry for the long story..but you would be surprised how fast you'd give up some DNA!!

Those 19 years of wondering must have been dreadful for you, Kat, and it's incredibly sad that your mother never knew what became of your sister. I hope it's given you comfort to know that you did everything you could and left no stone unturned in your pursuit of the truth. It sounds like fate or a higher power, combined with your dedication, led you to your Angel.

[JsMom]

This is long, sorry...

There are many reasons for giving up your DNA, my sister disappeared in 1983 and it took us over 19yrs, fucking 19yrs before they would even accept her as a missing person, she lived in Chicago...she disappeared in Canada...Chicago sent us to Canada....Canada sent us to Chicago...The FBI sent us back to Chicago...and NONE of these MOTHERFUCKERS would do anything because she wasn't officially a Missing Person, I got the whole catch 22 run around for 19yrs!! I wrote more letters than you can imagine, checked hospitals, institutions, churches in the area she disappeared from, check routes that she may have traveled to get to Canada, most of my family had given up or died, my mother died never knowing what happened to her daughter, only myself and my younger sister wouldn't let it go, my other siblings just let it go...I couldn't, she was my big sister, who we called "Sissie". When I got my first computer in the 90's I found a group on the internet called The Doe Network and this was set up for missing and unidentified woman, they also required a formal missing persons report but the Administrator made an exception because of the years and effort involved on my part in trying to get my sister disappearance classified as a missing person...long story made really, really, terribly short here...in 2002 we got someone in the Canada end of things to finally help, he was an Angel of a cop let me tell you, CAM MOORE of the Moosejaw, SK police, he also was involved in a Cold Case group, Project Resolve, it was his hobby, not official. There were a few unidentified females that could have been my sister, and Cam got the Canooks to pay for the DNA test, so yes I RAN, ME THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT HIPPIE FROM THE 60'S, TO GIVE UP MY DNA AS FAST AS I COULD TO THE LOCAL COPS AND SAID SWAB. My sister was found in 2005 she had died in 1987(only 4 short years later)under an alias and was buried under that alias. She was showing signs of mental illness before she left for this Canada trip, but little did we know just how bad things were (she became a full blown paranoid/schizophrenic). I wasn't living in Chicago and hadn't seen her for about 3yrs. so I really had no idea, she was very good at keeping up a I'm okay face. She died of natural causes, a pulmonary embolism. I had even contacted the detectives that were on the Green River Killer case thinking she may been one of his victims and Det. Jensen of that case was just wonderful to me, he checked every known data base he could for me, even though he believed my sister wasn't one of the victims because the GR killer had a type, still he told me how to get things done, how to approach the police, because no cop wants a cold case handed to them. The Canadian officer (a selfless, decent, giving human being) who cracked this case, Corpral Cam Moore, passed away a few years later of cancer, so it was like fate that we some how connected. But I gave my DNA up in a flash!! Sorry for the long story..but you would be surprised how fast you'd give up some DNA!!

Those 19 years of wondering must have been dreadful for you, Kat, and it's incredibly sad that your mother never knew what became of your sister. I hope it's given you comfort to know that you did everything you could and left no stone unturned in your pursuit of the truth. It sounds like fate or a higher power, combined with your dedication, led you to your Angel.

Well Said!!! Sorry Kat :(

[WolfHouse]

:agreed:


JsMom, I was appalled at how you acted on the original FB "Justice" page. You, a complete stranger, had the audacity to try and come off as Maytee's biggest supporter and new bff.

If anyone else followed the original "Justice" page and saw how you clung to Maytee and posted that you loved her, and were there for her , then THEY WILL UNDERSTAND where I am coming from!!


Maytee is OBVIOUSLY off her rocker- BUT she is NOT the ONLY ONE!!! Within a matter of minutes, you went from supporting Maytee to bashing her on this forum. I do not agree with Maytee and the way that she is lashing out. BUT worse than her behavior, is YOURS!!! She is obviously extremely unstable and devastated and has made VERY bad decisions. AGREED. BUT who are you to TARGET a grieving mother and then LASH OUT at HER?!?!??!?!

Seriously, it is one thing for people to view Maytee as a crazy woman who needs to stop running her mouth. :stir_shit: And it is fine to posts all those thoughts on this forum!! But when you slither your way into her personal life to the point of her feeling comfortable enough with you to text you from her phone, then that is JUST SICK!!! And then, after you have pushed your way into her life, and then send nasty texts to her cell phone calling her a "BITCH" - you really look like a LOWLIFE, even next to the likes of Maytee. :O


In my opinon, YOU CRAWLED UP her ASS and SHE FARTED YOU OUT!!!

Gives a whole other dimension to POOF BE GONE!!!!

Hear, hear, Inspector Gary!!! I agree with every word you've said.

BRAVO!

I totally agree as I myself had stated on i don't remember if it was here or not that M was illiciting a reaction from Maytee. I also thought it was weird to tell someone u don't even know that u love them ! That being said I love Mock and hope that there will be a arrest soon so that there can be some kind of closure for the families of these kids. I know I would probably never be the same if something like this happened to one of my children. I can't even imagine how I would deal with it !

This is the last Im going to comment on these posts! I DID LOVE HER IN A FRIENDSHIP KINDA WAY! I TRIED TO BE THERE FOR HER AS A "friend" BECAUSE I HAVE LOST A CHILD I didnt have no one there for me! I know ALL ABOUT GRIEVING! NOW~IM DONE WITH ALL THIS BS! I have MY DAMN REASONS why I no longer feel bad for her! I do in the sense of losing a child but nothing more! HELL SHES ON THERE WISHIN DEATH ON ALL US MOCKERS AND OUR KIDS! COME ON NOW MAYBE U ALL DONT CARE BUT I DO! sorry

Almost everyone on here has lost someone dear but they do not bring
it up every time they post. You really need to try to search for some
understanding of why you must always share your own pain and bring
it up. It is not about you, unfortunately.

We are sorry for your pain, and I wish we could have been there
when you needed us but we were not, and we can not go back.
Can you just drop it? Please? I beg of you. You are not helping
anyone by doing all the SCREAMING and ranting.

And no one can wish death on you and your kids. Those are only words.
ok? just words of a grieving woman. Please you need help handling
this and figuring out why you must insert yourself into others pain
and always turn things around to 'you' being the victim.

[ToledoNative]

I am astounded at the number of forums that appear to be lifting comments made in this thread & info from the facts thread and posting it in their own forums. I hadn't really looked outside of Mock for information, imagine my surprise when I did.

Really?!

That's an honor!

Here's a thought...instead of wasting their time on other forums, why don't they come here and join the party?

Become a Mote Mocking MotherMocker!

[Lady Cop]

I am astounded at the number of forums that appear to be lifting comments made in this thread & info from the facts thread and posting it in their own forums. I hadn't really looked outside of Mock for information, imagine my surprise when I did.

Really?!

That's an honor!

Here's a thought...instead of wasting their time on other forums, why don't they come here and join the party?

Become a Mote Mocking MotherMocker!

it would be more of an honor if they did the right thing and gave us ATTRIBUTION!

[JsMom]

Hear, hear, Inspector Gary!!! I agree with every word you've said.

BRAVO!

I totally agree as I myself had stated on i don't remember if it was here or not that M was illiciting a reaction from Maytee. I also thought it was weird to tell someone u don't even know that u love them ! That being said I love Mock and hope that there will be a arrest soon so that there can be some kind of closure for the families of these kids. I know I would probably never be the same if something like this happened to one of my children. I can't even imagine how I would deal with it !

This is the last Im going to comment on these posts! I DID LOVE HER IN A FRIENDSHIP KINDA WAY! I TRIED TO BE THERE FOR HER AS A "friend" BECAUSE I HAVE LOST A CHILD I didnt have no one there for me! I know ALL ABOUT GRIEVING! NOW~IM DONE WITH ALL THIS BS! I have MY DAMN REASONS why I no longer feel bad for her! I do in the sense of losing a child but nothing more! HELL SHES ON THERE WISHIN DEATH ON ALL US MOCKERS AND OUR KIDS! COME ON NOW MAYBE U ALL DONT CARE BUT I DO! sorry

Almost everyone on here has lost someone dear but they do not bring
it up every time they post. You really need to try to search for some
understanding of why you must always share your own pain and bring
it up. It is not about you, unfortunately.

We are sorry for your pain, and I wish we could have been there
when you needed us but we were not, and we can not go back.
Can you just drop it? Please? I beg of you. You are not helping
anyone by doing all the SCREAMING and ranting.

And no one can wish death on you and your kids. Those are only words.
ok? just words of a grieving woman. Please you need help handling
this and figuring out why you must insert yourself into others pain
and always turn things around to 'you' being the victim.

My point was I understand how she feels about the lose of a child not just someone dear to me! I know its not about me and Im glad it isnt! Thanks tho I will NEVER mention my sons death again!

[JsMom]

I am astounded at the number of forums that appear to be lifting comments made in this thread & info from the facts thread and posting it in their own forums. I hadn't really looked outside of Mock for information, imagine my surprise when I did.

Really?!

That's an honor!

Here's a thought...instead of wasting their time on other forums, why don't they come here and join the party?

Become a Mote Mocking MotherMocker!

true~come join us

[Adub]

I am astounded at the number of forums that appear to be lifting comments made in this thread & info from the facts thread and posting it in their own forums. I hadn't really looked outside of Mock for information, imagine my surprise when I did.

Really?!

That's an honor!

Here's a thought...instead of wasting their time on other forums, why don't they come here and join the party?

Become a Mote Mocking MotherMocker!

it would be more of an honor if they did the right thing and gave us ATTRIBUTION!

Well we can give that one to Maytee. She is doing a fine job of that.

[ToledoNative]

BRAVO!

I totally agree as I myself had stated on i don't remember if it was here or not that M was illiciting a reaction from Maytee. I also thought it was weird to tell someone u don't even know that u love them ! That being said I love Mock and hope that there will be a arrest soon so that there can be some kind of closure for the families of these kids. I know I would probably never be the same if something like this happened to one of my children. I can't even imagine how I would deal with it !

This is the last Im going to comment on these posts! I DID LOVE HER IN A FRIENDSHIP KINDA WAY! I TRIED TO BE THERE FOR HER AS A "friend" BECAUSE I HAVE LOST A CHILD I didnt have no one there for me! I know ALL ABOUT GRIEVING! NOW~IM DONE WITH ALL THIS BS! I have MY DAMN REASONS why I no longer feel bad for her! I do in the sense of losing a child but nothing more! HELL SHES ON THERE WISHIN DEATH ON ALL US MOCKERS AND OUR KIDS! COME ON NOW MAYBE U ALL DONT CARE BUT I DO! sorry

Almost everyone on here has lost someone dear but they do not bring
it up every time they post. You really need to try to search for some
understanding of why you must always share your own pain and bring
it up. It is not about you, unfortunately.

We are sorry for your pain, and I wish we could have been there
when you needed us but we were not, and we can not go back.
Can you just drop it? Please? I beg of you. You are not helping
anyone by doing all the SCREAMING and ranting.

And no one can wish death on you and your kids. Those are only words.
ok? just words of a grieving woman. Please you need help handling
this and figuring out why you must insert yourself into others pain
and always turn things around to 'you' being the victim.

My point was I understand how she feels about the lose of a child not just someone dear to me! I know its not about me and Im glad it isnt! Thanks tho I will NEVER mention my sons death again!

You mention whatever the fuck you want to, JsMom.

[NightOwl]

for those who haven't seen it, the billboard---->

Thank you very much Lady Cop! The Billboard is well done - sure hope it brings forth some results.