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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-07-2011, 07:36 PM)concerned Wrote: I still have faith that this will be solved and soon. IMO they didnt have the manpower so that is why the FBI was brought in. The Sheriffs Department wants to catch these fiends. Nothing would make Telb look better. Especially since his little "trial". Im sure that the detectives on the case take there work home with them. They have families and children also. They seen the actual crime scene and know what we dont know.

I would hope they know more than we do.
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(03-07-2011, 08:09 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:07 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:02 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Turn the page Bitch!!!

huh?

I was afraid you might think that was directed at you!hah There has been a glitch lately on this thread and the only way to get to the next page is by posting something. So most of us usually swear at the computer!!!

LOL I was wondering for the longest why everyone was cussin at the beginning of every thread but then I caught on! I was like HUH? 115 then i got it! When it said
The specified thread does not exist.
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(03-07-2011, 08:09 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:07 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:02 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Turn the page Bitch!!!

huh?

I was afraid you might think that was directed at you!hah There has been a glitch lately on this thread and the only way to get to the next page is by posting something. So most of us usually swear at the computer!!!

oh ok! i was thinking man I really crossed the line w/my question lol

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(03-07-2011, 08:09 PM)van64 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 07:36 PM)concerned Wrote: I still have faith that this will be solved and soon. IMO they didnt have the manpower so that is why the FBI was brought in. The Sheriffs Department wants to catch these fiends. Nothing would make Telb look better. Especially since his little "trial". Im sure that the detectives on the case take there work home with them. They have families and children also. They seen the actual crime scene and know what we dont know.

I would hope they know more than we do.

ME 2 because these families really need JUSTICE!
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(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hello Mockers!! I know alot of you have very specific questions that I would like to answer. I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease" but I don't want to jeopardize the investigation. There are also some questions that I don't feel comfortable asking the family. I can tell you that the tape absolutely did not come from the Staub's household. This was obviously planned and so many of us have thought. I forgot to ask about the bags, but Unknown made that comment about BBB bags and she seemed to imply that someone brought them there. However BBB is someplace that Lisa, her mom, and sister would have shopped at. There is still a BBB less than 2 miles, I believe. Maytee doesn't know shit because LE doesn't know who did it. They have leads but not enough, hence the billboards. They are awaiting the birth of TW's baby so they can administer polygragh and more thoroughly interogate her. Does anyone remember when she is due?? There was something on her FB page that someone cut and pasted. The DNA is indeed back. There is unfortunately no match. The DNA was obtained from Lisa. They are currently working on DNA and fingerprints from all the tape. They have to unravel all the tape very carefully. A painstaking process. The family is very upset about the comments the other day from that asshole that said the victims "instigated" this attack and that it was a "professional hit". There is a town meeting tonight and Jim Verbosky will be asking that that statement be retracted. Maytee has been repeatedly asked to stop posting on FB by LE but she continues to do so. I can't remember what else right now . I will post as I recall.
A little more info; thank you for sharing. So if the DNA was obtained from Lisa, can we begin to think she was raped? I know there is speculation, rampant on some other boards, that she was since her legs/ankles were not taped. We also surmised there was not a DNA match. Stone cold at this point. That sux.

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(03-07-2011, 08:07 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:03 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hello Mockers!! I know alot of you have very specific questions that I would like to answer. I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease" but I don't want to jeopardize the investigation. There are also some questions that I don't feel comfortable asking the family. I can tell you that the tape absolutely did not come from the Staub's household. This was obviously planned and so many of us have thought. I forgot to ask about the bags, but Unknown made that comment about BBB bags and she seemed to imply that someone brought them there. However BBB is someplace that Lisa, her mom, and sister would have shopped at. There is still a BBB less than 2 miles, I believe. Maytee doesn't know shit because LE doesn't know who did it. They have leads but not enough, hence the billboards. They are awaiting the birth of TW's baby so they can administer polygragh and more thoroughly interogate her. Does anyone remember when she is due?? There was something on her FB page that someone cut and pasted. The DNA is indeed back. There is unfortunately no match. The DNA was obtained from Lisa. They are currently working on DNA and fingerprints from all the tape. They have to unravel all the tape very carefully. A painstaking process. The family is very upset about the comments the other day from that asshole that said the victims "instigated" this attack and that it was a "professional hit". There is a town meeting tonight and Jim Verbosky will be asking that that statement be retracted. Maytee has been repeatedly asked to stop posting on FB by LE but she continues to do so. I can't remember what else right now . I will post as I recall.

Thanks for all your info Kitty. If I remember correctly, TW is due in July.

Thanks!! It can't come soon enough for me!!


Thanks!
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw Smiley_emoticons_fies
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(03-07-2011, 08:02 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hello Mockers!! I know alot of you have very specific questions that I would like to answer. I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease" but I don't want to jeopardize the investigation. There are also some questions that I don't feel comfortable asking the family. I can tell you that the tape absolutely did not come from the Staub's household. This was obviously planned and so many of us have thought. I forgot to ask about the bags, but Unknown made that comment about BBB bags and she seemed to imply that someone brought them there. However BBB is someplace that Lisa, her mom, and sister would have shopped at. There is still a BBB less than 2 miles, I believe. Maytee doesn't know shit because LE doesn't know who did it. They have leads but not enough, hence the billboards. They are awaiting the birth of TW's baby so they can administer polygragh and more thoroughly interogate her. Does anyone remember when she is due?? There was something on her FB page that someone cut and pasted. The DNA is indeed back. There is unfortunately no match. The DNA was obtained from Lisa. They are currently working on DNA and fingerprints from all the tape. They have to unravel all the tape very carefully. A painstaking process. The family is very upset about the comments the other day from that asshole that said the victims "instigated" this attack and that it was a "professional hit". There is a town meeting tonight and Jim Verbosky will be asking that that statement be retracted. Maytee has been repeatedly asked to stop posting on FB by LE but she continues to do so. I can't remember what else right now . I will post as I recall.

Wow very interesting. You said the DNA was obtained from Lisa. I'm almost scared to ask, but do you know what kind of DNA it was? If you are willing to tell. Thanks

It was not semen if that's what your'e asking.
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(03-07-2011, 08:15 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:02 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hello Mockers!! I know alot of you have very specific questions that I would like to answer. I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease" but I don't want to jeopardize the investigation. There are also some questions that I don't feel comfortable asking the family. I can tell you that the tape absolutely did not come from the Staub's household. This was obviously planned and so many of us have thought. I forgot to ask about the bags, but Unknown made that comment about BBB bags and she seemed to imply that someone brought them there. However BBB is someplace that Lisa, her mom, and sister would have shopped at. There is still a BBB less than 2 miles, I believe. Maytee doesn't know shit because LE doesn't know who did it. They have leads but not enough, hence the billboards. They are awaiting the birth of TW's baby so they can administer polygragh and more thoroughly interogate her. Does anyone remember when she is due?? There was something on her FB page that someone cut and pasted. The DNA is indeed back. There is unfortunately no match. The DNA was obtained from Lisa. They are currently working on DNA and fingerprints from all the tape. They have to unravel all the tape very carefully. A painstaking process. The family is very upset about the comments the other day from that asshole that said the victims "instigated" this attack and that it was a "professional hit". There is a town meeting tonight and Jim Verbosky will be asking that that statement be retracted. Maytee has been repeatedly asked to stop posting on FB by LE but she continues to do so. I can't remember what else right now . I will post as I recall.

Wow very interesting. You said the DNA was obtained from Lisa. I'm almost scared to ask, but do you know what kind of DNA it was? If you are willing to tell. Thanks

It was not semen if that's what your'e asking.
Ok well, that's good. But not having a match is bad. Very bad. A match may never appear in a DNA database.

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(03-07-2011, 08:15 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 08:02 PM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hello Mockers!! I know alot of you have very specific questions that I would like to answer. I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease" but I don't want to jeopardize the investigation. There are also some questions that I don't feel comfortable asking the family. I can tell you that the tape absolutely did not come from the Staub's household. This was obviously planned and so many of us have thought. I forgot to ask about the bags, but Unknown made that comment about BBB bags and she seemed to imply that someone brought them there. However BBB is someplace that Lisa, her mom, and sister would have shopped at. There is still a BBB less than 2 miles, I believe. Maytee doesn't know shit because LE doesn't know who did it. They have leads but not enough, hence the billboards. They are awaiting the birth of TW's baby so they can administer polygragh and more thoroughly interogate her. Does anyone remember when she is due?? There was something on her FB page that someone cut and pasted. The DNA is indeed back. There is unfortunately no match. The DNA was obtained from Lisa. They are currently working on DNA and fingerprints from all the tape. They have to unravel all the tape very carefully. A painstaking process. The family is very upset about the comments the other day from that asshole that said the victims "instigated" this attack and that it was a "professional hit". There is a town meeting tonight and Jim Verbosky will be asking that that statement be retracted. Maytee has been repeatedly asked to stop posting on FB by LE but she continues to do so. I can't remember what else right now . I will post as I recall.

Wow very interesting. You said the DNA was obtained from Lisa. I'm almost scared to ask, but do you know what kind of DNA it was? If you are willing to tell. Thanks

It was not semen if that's what your'e asking.

I'm glad to hear that. i know there was talk that Lisa was spit on. So that's another thought I had.


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So i was looking on myspace and found Ls myspace page. You can't view the feed but you can see her friends and pictures. they are old pictures but i don't know if anyone is interested in looking at it. If it hasn't been posted let me know and i'll put the link here. i don't remember if it had been or not.
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(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease"

have u seen your avatar?

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Help me here....We can rule out....(assuming the info given the
family is true) Something tells me that if I knew who the DNA
belonged to, I would not tell any family member.....

Lisa's X
Z
Tiffany
BC

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(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Hello Mockers!! I know alot of you have very specific questions that I would like to answer. I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease" but I don't want to jeopardize the investigation. There are also some questions that I don't feel comfortable asking the family. I can tell you that the tape absolutely did not come from the Staub's household. This was obviously planned and so many of us have thought. I forgot to ask about the bags, but Unknown made that comment about BBB bags and she seemed to imply that someone brought them there. However BBB is someplace that Lisa, her mom, and sister would have shopped at. There is still a BBB less than 2 miles, I believe. Maytee doesn't know shit because LE doesn't know who did it. They have leads but not enough, hence the billboards. They are awaiting the birth of TW's baby so they can administer polygragh and more thoroughly interogate her. Does anyone remember when she is due?? There was something on her FB page that someone cut and pasted. The DNA is indeed back. There is unfortunately no match. The DNA was obtained from Lisa. They are currently working on DNA and fingerprints from all the tape. They have to unravel all the tape very carefully. A painstaking process. The family is very upset about the comments the other day from that asshole that said the victims "instigated" this attack and that it was a "professional hit". There is a town meeting tonight and Jim Verbosky will be asking that that statement be retracted. Maytee has been repeatedly asked to stop posting on FB by LE but she continues to do so. I can't remember what else right now . I will post as I recall.

You have already established by your avatar that you are a tease. Smiley_emoticons_wink

But you have provided a lot of helpful and reassuring information giving hope that the case may be solved and the perpetrators found and captured.

Thanks so much.

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(03-07-2011, 08:22 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: Help me here....We can rule out....

Lisa's X
Z
Tiffany
BC

How so?
"The old believe everything; the middle-aged suspect everything; the young know everything." Oscar Wilde
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I'm sorry that I could not reveal as much as I originally intended to, but I at least cleared up the tape thing, the DNA thing and that Maytee is talking shit as usual. The family has had many offers to talk on T.V. and have refused them all. Most want to pit one family against the other. The Straubs are too classy for that crap. Hopefully they will get some fingerprints off of the tape. Everyone gets fingerprinted when arrested but no DNA unless convicted of a felony. I would have to think these fucksticks have been arrested before.
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purely speculation on my part..if in fact the killers brought the tape, but not the bags, that says to me they only planned on binding the victims while they tore up the house looking for the alleged "safe". and when things got out of control, they used the bags they found in the house to kill them. i never, and you can look back to the beginning, thought that they came with the intent to murder.

















































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(03-07-2011, 08:20 PM)notsure Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease"

have u seen your avatar?

Oh Shit! Forgot about that!!! Smiley_emoticons_hurra3BSmiley_emoticons_hurra3B
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(03-07-2011, 08:20 PM)notsure Wrote:
(03-07-2011, 07:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: I don't want to be labeled as a 'tease"

have u seen your avatar?

Fact. Hahahaha
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw Smiley_emoticons_fies
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They know what we dont in regards to the actual brutality that did take place, seen the gruesome facts that we can only imagine in our minds. The gory details we speculate about is burned in their minds forever. That is what I meant when I stated they know what we dont.
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(03-07-2011, 08:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: purely speculation on my part..if in fact the killers brought the tape, but not the bags, that says to me they only planned on binding the victims while they tore up the house looking for the alleged "safe". and when things got out of control, they used the bags they found in the house to kill them. i never, and you can look back to the beginning, thought that they came with the intent to murder.

I absolutely believe that to be true as well. Things got out of hand and Lisa fought lilke hell I can tell you that!!!!! They probably were not expecting Johnny and Lisa to be that strong!!
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