Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[RaisingAPrince]

Not to skew her away, even though I doubt she'll ever come here anyway, but at this point she will get torn apart. We've invited her countless times and always with the same response, her rants on FB about how pathetic and wrong we are.

[notsure]

maytee: "And yes let me find out i know one of you i will make sure my husband blows out your jaw n teeth for all the crap that comes out of it."

i wonder how FB (and LE) will feel about a clear threat like that?

what page was that on?

Justice will prevail.

It's gone now. She's magic!

Yep! She deleted the entire post regarding Mock today. HEY MAYTEE DELETING DOESN'T TAKE BACK WHAT YOU SAY!!! IT'S ALL HERE!!!

I'm not going to post this publicly b/c I don't want to give maytee any more attention. Doesn't it seem odd that she wants to have John sr. blow our jaw and teeth out (with a shotgun I would assume) for talking about johnny in an objective way, But she suspects AG as the person who executed her son and all she does is call him names on facebook. She thinks AG killed her son, but John Sr. isn't on his way over to blow his head off? instead she will let the justice system take care of him. really? But lets threaten the mockers with heads blown off b/c she knows we won't call her bluff maybe?? IDK just seems silly. bC of that I just can't believe she really suspects AG all that strongly. I know if I were her and I really thought he did it, I probably would have a hard time not seeking my own justice. and it wouldn't be in the form of name calling in facebook.

[Lady Cop]

i no longer wish to give her a forum or venue.
threats are not allowed here.

[trixie]

I'm not going to post this publicly b/c I don't want to give maytee any more attention. Doesn't it seem odd that she wants to have John sr. blow our jaw and teeth out (with a shotgun I would assume) for talking about johnny in an objective way, But she suspects AG as the person who executed her son and all she does is call him names on facebook. She thinks AG killed her son, but John Sr. isn't on his way over to blow his head off? instead she will let the justice system take care of him. really? But lets threaten the mockers with heads blown off b/c she knows we won't call her bluff maybe?? IDK just seems silly. bC of that I just can't believe she really suspects AG all that strongly. I know if I were her and I really thought he did it, I probably would have a hard time not seeking my own justice. and it wouldn't be in the form of name calling in facebook.

I assumed she meant by punching us. Have you seen his arms??

[Gonzojoe]

OK so I finally caught up for the most part and WOW is about all I can say. Maytee since I see you are avidly ( sorry if I misspelled) watching this page, why not join us and give us insight? We are all here for the same reason you are JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY AND LISA. Reading you would know that some of us have contacted LE and others have talked about contacting AMW. Seems to me you are simply pissed off that there is a group of people whom you may or may not know that maybe getting close or have a good idea of what may have happened, yet we will not know until LE gives us the details of course. Maybe I am off by saying that you are pissed that we are getting close and theres something you know that one of us has brought up? Noone in thier right minds after a horrible crime like that was committed to one of our kids would be so mad towards others that are trying to find answers in the case or wanting justice for the families of the victims unless they themselves have something to hide and dont want it out in the open. But thats JMO.

I think what pisses her off the most is this page is something she cant control.People I know that know her said she is a complete control freak.Unfortunately for the people around her she is completely clueless in term of right of wrong.Its her way and thats it!!I've also heard of her sending her goon of a husband out to do her evil bidding, such as anyone looking at her sideways gets a smack upside the head from her attack dog.What a way to go through life.

[Nina]

When I first saw this case on the internet it caught my eye and I googled it......never dreamed it would turn into such a crazy soap opera drama. Sad and scary that this situation and these crazy people are all very real.

[JsMom]

TOP 3 THINGS I'VE LEARNED FROM "JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL..."
1. AG is a "true azz nigga"
2. Maytee is a "sillly rabbit"
3. I am a "moran" "lyin loonie wanna be" & "pathetic"

Happy Friday!

Loving the outline. U get an A

WINNER!

[JsMom]

someone here PMed an interesting thought to me. i thought it was worth mentioning. i seriously doubt this will happen, but they suggested maytee could be charged with attempted intimidation of potential witnesses. it's possible, but not likely. an intriguing idea nonetheless.

Hell it sounds real good to me. Them the family can grieve in peace. just sayin

[JsMom]

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Stop talking about my son you patgetic mocker skumbags thats exactly why i say when one of you or yours die you will then feel my pain you fucking skumbags go rot in hell you fucking sewer trash ypu dont know shit about my son lisa or our family alls you do is stay hidden behind a screen lying speculating n spreading rumors and if you were close to us or our family you would know tbe truth... And yes let me find out i know one of you i will make sure my husband blows out your jaw n teeth for all the crap that comes out of it.leave us alone pretty soon pages are going private and only our family n friends will be allowed to view.
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Maybe I should start liking the comments that I find funny, Do you want me to spell check Maytee's comment's in future LC ?

:O NOW that is a threat!

[LytoMe]

I am starting to assume she thinks that if she deletes the comments no one will ever see them, or prove she said those things.
Little does she know computers and forums SAVE everything even if its deleted. There is always a way to obtain the information, especially since every page is being read and watched by LE. That is an obvious thing in cases like murder.
I would seriously still like to interview John, Sr. I would love to hear what he has to say, or is he her little pawn in this chess game?

[kitty1]

I'm also confused about the crime scene...and what we know and DON'T know about it..
I've heard that it was pretty bloody and that the house looked as if there was quite a struggle.
we've also heard that it looked like there was a purposeful ransacking...i.e looking for something, safe, drugs, whatever

but yet, Maytee or nobody else early on, really mentioned any blood, other than a small pool on Lisas face, or by her head or whatever. it seems that if the crime scene was all bloodied up...something would have been said!

My recollection from earlier posts is that the bloody scene and evidence of a struggle was in the kitchen, not in the room where the bodies were found. Johnny's mother did not go into the house or, if she did, it was only into the room where her son and Lisa were lying dead. In fact, I don't recall her being in the house at all, but only hearing the description of Johnny's father as to the scene where the bodies were found.

And of course the ransacking was up on the second floor. No one other than LE and Lisa's uncle went upstairs until after the cleaning crew arrived.

If my recollection is correct, I believe that would explain why Johnny's mother has not described a bloody scene or evidence of a struggle.

The bodies were definitely discovered in the kitchen. I believe that was stated on T.V. and in the newspaper. According to JSMom who spoke to Maytee numerous times, Maytee did go in the house after the husband came out and said the bodies were in there. I don't know about anyone else but if I was in that position I would definetly go in to see my child alive or dead. No one could keep me out. IMO her husband may have urged her not to go in and see him in the state he was in(cuz the bag was probably still partially wrapped around his neck)but knowing what we know re: her personality IMO she would have stormed in there to see him. But I do agree that it is odd that when describing that night she never mentioned a bloody scene because IMO that is in her character to share that with everyone. And the bloody scene is something that IMO would not have been mentioned by LIsa's uncle. I don't recall him ever mentioning any particulars about either body except for Lisa's clothing and to say that she fought for her last breath.

[JsMom]

maytee: "And yes let me find out i know one of you i will make sure my husband blows out your jaw n teeth for all the crap that comes out of it."

i wonder how FB (and LE) will feel about a clear threat like that?

what page was that on?

Justice will prevail.

sure is


It's gone now. She's magic!

Yep! She deleted the entire post regarding Mock today. HEY MAYTEE DELETING DOESN'T TAKE BACK WHAT YOU SAY!!! IT'S ALL HERE!!!

[pspence]

No matter what Maytee ever says she has a permanent pass with me...now to realize that she actually went into the house and saw her baby, lst born, beautiful, funny, light of her life, son like that...lifeless, knowing how much he must have suffered...OMG...like I said...whatever she says, I will only feel sadness and compassion for her...just wished an arrest would hurry up soon and put these creeps away for ever and give her and the Straubs some kind of peace so they can grieve and slowly heal with time...

if that happened to me I'd be sucking my thumb in the fetal position and anything that came out of my mouth I would hope people would understand and forgive me...

[Nina]

No matter what Maytee ever says she has a permanent pass with me...now to realize that she actually went into the house and saw her baby, lst born, beautiful, funny, light of her life, son like that...lifeless, knowing how much he must have suffered...OMG...like I said...whatever she says, I will only feel sadness and compassion for her...just wished an arrest would hurry up soon and put these creeps away for ever and give her and the Straubs some kind of peace so they can grieve and slowly heal with time...

if that happened to me I'd be sucking my thumb in the fetal position and anything that came out of my mouth I would hope people would understand and forgive me...

+1

[pspence]

I just found this on another forum regarding the recent correspondance between AG and Maytee...a totally different "read" than what we all were thinking...thought you all would find interesting....

I think AG did trip up in his conversation.

* AG said Johnny was a snitch and he knew Johnny in jail.

* Tiffany said she thought someone who Johnny snitched on in jail, killed him.

* AG seemed to indicate that Johnny "tormented" someone in prison, and Maytee had to have him moved to another prison.

* AG appears to think that snitches are the worst form of life. So much so he has a tattoo dedicated to his mindset.

* AG insinuates that the entire Clarke family are "snitches" - meaning they deserve their fate.

* AG was obviously contacting Maytee before she started to lash out on Facebook.

* AG said that he can do whatever he wants in the eyes of God as long as he repents.

* AG said he prayed recently.

* AG admits to a relationship with Johnny that many did not know about.

Hey fockers who never had sympathy for Maytee but claim to have lost it because she's angry about her son's death, what would you say to your child's murderer suspects?

I don't know if AG is guilty or not, but if he isn't [b]I think Maytee got "motive" out of him last night. She's crazy alright. Crazy like a fox.[/b]

[fabulous]

I think most of *us* agree that Maytee has experienced the WORST.THING.EVER.
but she is out of control! absolutely out of control. I actually feel sad for her that none of her own people ie friends, family, religious people, husband, whomever her support is can reign her in.

[WolfHouse]

Open Words to The Straubs, Lindsay, and Extended Family,
Maytee, John Sr, their boys, and LE.

There are pages and pages of speculation on here about everyone
except the man in the moon. A huge percentage of them will be
incorrect and rumors gone amuck.

I can totally understand where family members are coming from and I beg for
them to let it roll over like water over a duck. No one is trying to do
anything but solve the case.

Here is an example of how things can go weird fast. One poster said
that the East Coast Murderer was ID'd by a cigarette he had thrown on
the ground. In the next post, someone said something to the fact that,
'I am so happy they caught him throwing his cigarette out the car window.'

Well, the latter was not stated, and was not true. The perpetrator had
dropped the cigarette while walking outside a public building and it was
picked up by police for DNA.

Remember playing telephone in school? It happened in the example up there.
And it probably has happened hundreds of times here. No one really knows
what color the duct tape is and no one really knows what the death scene
looked like except Maytee, John Sr and the LE. Consequently we have
spewed alot of shit I am certain. Sorry M, JSR and LE. But we are
only novices and only trying. Forgive us and realize we are not the
Official Investigators, but really really novices, WANTING TO THROW
OUT ANY CLUE TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS HORRID CASE AND ALLOW
HEALING. Sorry too about some of the really really stupid sexual ridiciulous
comments. That was about as dumb as they come and from obviously
an individual who is not a parent or has never been in true fear of a loved one.

Don't give up on us, please. We mean no malice and love your kids.

[Duchess]

No matter what Maytee ever says she has a permanent pass with me..

So you're cool with her wishing that same fate or something similar on others & their loved ones? It's okay for her to do that because her son was murdered? She doesn't have to be held accountable for her actions?

[WolfHouse]

No matter what Maytee ever says she has a permanent pass with me..

So you're cool with her wishing that same fate or something similar on others & their loved ones? It's okay for her to do that because her son was murdered? She doesn't have to be held accountable for her actions?

I wish I knew how much of what she says is from the pagan religion.
And in what context it is used. Perhaps it is metaphoric or something.
It is too negative for me to wish to research and I am certain LE is indeed
researching it.

[kitty1]

TOP 3 THINGS I'VE LEARNED FROM "JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL..."
1. AG is a "true azz nigga"
2. Maytee is a "sillly rabbit"
3. I am a "moran" "lyin loonie wanna be" & "pathetic"

Happy Friday!

:B
I was thinking about that too Fran. Iv'e have really gotten an education in "gangsta talk". I can't recall all the phrases now but there were several. Something about "Kool-aid" running through your heart and that someone is a "cheese-eating ass"!! I laughed about the "silly rabbit". As awful as their deaths were we have to be able to laugh or we might just cry. Does any one else get a headache and experience eye discomfort when you are reading those "gangsta" posts? They are obviously written for others to read. I wish they would remember that when they're posting and use a period or at least a space at the end of their sentences. It is so difficult to tell where the sentence begins or ends. I still struggle with abbreviations:. I'm used to speed reading the posts on here but I have to really focus and take my time when I read theirs. It's a painstaking process.

Maytee claims that she has notified LE about A.G.'s repeated threats. I believe she even said "death threats". She stated they were in her inbox e-mails (which I assume means they are not FB postings) but A.G. states that she is wrong because "you have blocked me from your e-mails" I personally believe him and alot of other things he said. Perhaps he is putting on an act IDK. Nothing seems to surprise me anymore with this cast of characters.

Maytee has proclaimed numerous times that Johnny was not a "drug dealer", didn't "owe money", wasn't in a "gang", that he had "no enemies" and originally stated that these murders had nothing to do with Johnny, his aquaintences or any of his past behaviors. She is adament that A.G. and Tiff are involved and claims they are even "suspects" These were friends of Johnny's so she is contradicting herself by saying this had nothing to with him!? She said "they were set by people they thought were their friends", yet she says he has "no enemies"!?

I imagine that everyone has one or many things that bother them about this case. Something that you just can't wrap your head around or that you don't understand. The thing that continues to bother me and others have expressed the same is the part about Tiff's phone call. I have tried to put myself in the shoes of the perp(s). If it was me and I walked in and Johnny was on the phone stating the things that he allegedly said then I would say to myself "Fuck, we need to get out of here or we better fucking hurry". For all they knew the caller notified someone (perhaps the police) and a squad car could have been in the neighborhood and arrived to the house within minutes. Yet they stayed there. We don't know how long they stayed but IMO the absolute minimal time would be 15-20 minutes and that is if they ran around like complete maniacs. Possibly one person ran around and searched the house while the other or others subdued and killed them. But why would they take such an incredible risk? And that risk would include not only being caught in the middle of a robbery but tying up victims, maybe even carrying a gun and of course murder. I just can't wrap my head around that. That is why Tiff's call has always been somewht suspect to me. The timeline just seems really off to me.

OK I am finally done with my rant!!