Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[kitty1]

It would be easy enough for LE to request a FB account be removed.

I would think that they would prefer to assign someone to read all this gossip and hope that it might lead to a clue as to the perps, particularly when you start getting people complaining about others who are thought to be potential snitches. or who have a reputation for snitching.

They call them "snitches" and civilized society calls them "informants" as they are a vital adjunct to law enforcement and our protection from criminals.

About a week after the murders I did speak to Det. Stooksbury and she assured me that they are closely monitoring all the crime forum sites and FB.

[kitty1]

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Stop talking about my son you patgetic mocker skumbags thats exactly why i say when one of you or yours die you will then feel my pain you fucking skumbags go rot in hell you fucking sewer trash ypu dont know shit about my son lisa or our family alls you do is stay hidden behind a screen lying speculating n spreading rumors and if you were close to us or our family you would know tbe truth... And yes let me find out i know one of you i will make sure my husband blows out your jaw n teeth for all the crap that comes out of it.leave us alone pretty soon pages are going private and only our family n friends will be allowed to view.
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Maybe I should start liking the comments that I find funny, Do you want me to spell check Maytee's comment's in future LC ?

Now I'm really fucking pissed. That is a threat to do bodily harm to me and to all of us. She said you Mockers. I am a Mocker so if she finds out who I am she has threatened to have her husband blow my jaw n teeth out!! That is clearly an issue with me. I feel that she should be reported. Hopefully LE is still monitoring this forum.

[kitty1]

MM's FB (some content edited for space, but no words changed...lol) :

N: bitch oh yes the fucc i would that lil bitch ass nigga aint nobody out here thats for mutha fuccin sure and u not neither bitch !!!! its ones them papers come out eveybody will kno that fukin hoe ass nigga is a SNITCH AS BITCH !!!!!! AND EVEYBODY KNOS WAT HAPPENS WEN U SNITCH LMMFAO TRICK.

CM: You Need to Ease Up Bitch... Before I Have T Come Slap the Taste Out Your Little Ass..Shit Happens.. Oh Mutha Fuckin Well. He didnt do No Snitchin..He Aint gotta.. All His Shit is Bull Shit. But Think what the Fuck you wanna... Little Brains Can't Hold Much So Try Not To Hurt Yourself.

NS: make a road trip bitch ur 90 pound ass will get knocked the fucc out ... WAT YALL MAD CUZ IM SPEAKIN THE TRUTH LMAO THE DAY THAT HOE ASS BITCH GETS LOCKED UP 4 LIFE WILL BE THE BEST DAY FOR HIS KIDS .....

CM: And You catch a Hot One in the Head.
CM: I can't Wait to Get to Toledo... I got Somethin For u Bitch... You'll see. Get Your Facts Straight Before You Take that Dirty Dick Out Yo Mouth and Try to Talk Shit
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N: im so scared lmao yo brother aint shit but a punk ass snitch thats all point blank.....so wen these papers come out sayin he snitched we'll see who has the last laugh at yall .. sorry ass family yall aint shit but some hoes n snitches!!!!! choke on that hoe!!!

CM; We Will see... Cause My Brother Didn't Snitch... And Who Are U to Disrespect My Family?

Those are clearly threats to do bodily harm. I don't know if they are referring to anyone we have discussed. I'm getting confused with all the characters. This whole thing is getting crazy and scary to me.

[pspence]

Duchess: "So you're cool with her wishing that same fate or something similar on others & their loved ones? It's okay for her to do that because her son was murdered? She doesn't have to be held accountable for her actions?"

Not cool with it at all...just a permanent pass....



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[kitty1]

maytee: "And yes let me find out i know one of you i will make sure my husband blows out your jaw n teeth for all the crap that comes out of it."

i wonder how FB (and LE) will feel about a clear threat like that?

what page was that on?

Justice will prevail.

It's gone now. She's magic!

Yep! She deleted the entire post regarding Mock today. HEY MAYTEE DELETING DOESN'T TAKE BACK WHAT YOU SAY!!! IT'S ALL HERE!!!

I'm not going to post this publicly b/c I don't want to give maytee any more attention. Doesn't it seem odd that she wants to have John sr. blow our jaw and teeth out (with a shotgun I would assume) for talking about johnny in an objective way, But she suspects AG as the person who executed her son and all she does is call him names on facebook. She thinks AG killed her son, but John Sr. isn't on his way over to blow his head off? instead she will let the justice system take care of him. really? But lets threaten the mockers with heads blown off b/c she knows we won't call her bluff maybe?? IDK just seems silly. bC of that I just can't believe she really suspects AG all that strongly. I know if I were her and I really thought he did it, I probably would have a hard time not seeking my own justice. and it wouldn't be in the form of name calling in facebook.

You did just post it publicly

[kitty1]

i no longer wish to give her a forum or venue.
threats are not allowed here.

I think that alot of us would have a difficult time being respectful to her.

[kitty1]

I just found this on another forum regarding the recent correspondance between AG and Maytee...a totally different "read" than what we all were thinking...thought you all would find interesting....

I think AG did trip up in his conversation.

* AG said Johnny was a snitch and he knew Johnny in jail.

* Tiffany said she thought someone who Johnny snitched on in jail, killed him.

* AG seemed to indicate that Johnny "tormented" someone in prison, and Maytee had to have him moved to another prison.

* AG appears to think that snitches are the worst form of life. So much so he has a tattoo dedicated to his mindset.

* AG insinuates that the entire Clarke family are "snitches" - meaning they deserve their fate.

* AG was obviously contacting Maytee before she started to lash out on Facebook.

* AG said that he can do whatever he wants in the eyes of God as long as he repents.

* AG said he prayed recently.

* AG admits to a relationship with Johnny that many did not know about.

Hey fockers who never had sympathy for Maytee but claim to have lost it because she's angry about her son's death, what would you say to your child's murderer suspects?

I don't know if AG is guilty or not, but if he isn't [b]I think Maytee got "motive" out of him last night. She's crazy alright. Crazy like a fox.[/b]

Motive for A.G. to have done it???? I don't see a motive for AG according to AG Johnny snitched on someone else not him. Maybe I misundersttod you. IMO AG has no motive to want either of them dead

[Miss Conspiracy]

Sorry if this is allready thought of prior to my comment but this threw me WAY off. Am I the only one that remembers Tiffany saying that she never met Maytee? This makes no sense she never met her but was at her house and Maytee is making a point of that. Ideas anyone?

Tiffany lied? SHOCKING A couple pages back someone pulled up the quote from Tiffany when she was here answering questions & Tiffany said she had never met Maytee prior to that night, the night at the Straubs was the first time she had met her. So either Tiffany is lying about never having met Maytee prior OR Maytee is lying about Tiffany being at her house at the end of summer with Z. Take your pick.....

lol like Maytee is any more believable.. she said in those conversations last night "I have never been in trouble in my life" HAH!!! And I'm Oprah's long lost sister!!!!!!

[kitty1]

No matter what Maytee ever says she has a permanent pass with me...now to realize that she actually went into the house and saw her baby, lst born, beautiful, funny, light of her life, son like that...lifeless, knowing how much he must have suffered...OMG...like I said...whatever she says, I will only feel sadness and compassion for her...just wished an arrest would hurry up soon and put these creeps away for ever and give her and the Straubs some kind of peace so they can grieve and slowly heal with time...

if that happened to me I'd be sucking my thumb in the fetal position and anything that came out of my mouth I would hope people would understand and forgive me...

So your'e OK with the fact that if she finds out that you are a Mocker that she will have her husband knock your teeth and jaw out?????????

[Lady Cop]

i no longer wish to give her a forum or venue.
threats are not allowed here.

I think that alot of us would have a difficult time being respectful to her.

perhaps. but nobody here would make threats. to anyone. i think she quickly realized she crossed a line with her threats.

[kitty1]

i no longer wish to give her a forum or venue.
threats are not allowed here.

I think that alot of us would have a difficult time being respectful to her.

perhaps. but nobody here would make threats. to anyone. i think she quickly realized she crossed a line with her threats.

Agree!!! No won would ever threaten her here.

[Snoopy]

There has been a thought that keeps coming to mind- and and I just cannot shake it. Originally, I suggested that "the phone call" was intended, to lure the victims from the home, so that it could be robbed, but they may of crossed paths with the perps, and things got out of hand. Although I still consider that a possibility (among many others) one thing I did not know at the time I posted this, was that JC had spent the evening at a friends house, watching a sports game, before picking LS up from work.
With that to consider, and strongly feeling the perps are amongst the people he trusted to be friends, I have started to wonder if they had planned to rob the house, knowing that JC would be with friends watching a game, while LS would be at work, and the house would be empty.

It is true, as someone stated in an earlier post, that waitstaff can be "cut" from the floor early. Its been 20 years since I worked at a TGIF, and a good 7 years since I have waited tables at all, but it is common for a restaurant to fully staff a shift, and as business drops off through the evening, they will "cut" the floor- usually the waiters that arrived earliest in the evening, are the first ones to be cut- but not always- some would rather stay, while others will opt to go home.
My thoughts have been wondering, if the perps had come to rob the home, thinking no one would be there for quite some time, and perhaps they were in the home, as many had suggested, when LC and LS had arrived- and they may have attempted to hide when they came home, only to be discovered, before the victims had left to pick up TW.. Just a thought I know... but I just cant shake it.
I remember people asking, but do not recall if anyone knew with any degree of certainty, what time Lisa was scheduled to work that evening, does anyone know?

[WolfHouse]

i no longer wish to give her a forum or venue.
threats are not allowed here.

I think that alot of us would have a difficult time being respectful to her.

perhaps. but nobody here would make threats. to anyone. i think she quickly realized she crossed a line with her threats.

So let's not post her threats here. Nuff said. Anyone who wants to can
go read them elsewhere. I am lucky....my computer does not access them.

[Lady Cop]

i no longer wish to give her a forum or venue.
threats are not allowed here.

I think that alot of us would have a difficult time being respectful to her.

perhaps. but nobody here would make threats. to anyone. i think she quickly realized she crossed a line with her threats.

So let's not post her threats here. Nuff said. Anyone who wants to can
go read them elsewhere. I am lucky....my computer does not access them.

i disagree. it's part of the record. this thread is a record.

[Methusala]

I am starting to assume she thinks that if she deletes the comments no one will ever see them, or prove she said those things.
Little does she know computers and forums SAVE everything even if its deleted. There is always a way to obtain the information, especially since every page is being read and watched by LE. That is an obvious thing in cases like murder.

Yes, kudos to whomever has been doing all that reading, editing and copying and pasting, and two suggestions to make it even more useful:

1) Before you select all and copy, whenever you see the words "See More" click on those words and it will expand the paragraph to reveal more that the writer typed and posted than what you first see;

2) If you can, before copying the text, make a copy of the entire page by selecting "Print to PDF" usually found under File in the menubar of your browser. That will give you a perfect and permanent copy of that page which identifies whose FaceBook Page it is, etc. While you will not be posting that copy here, it will be actual proof of what existed on that page before it was deleted, changed or whatever; and even may at sometime be something law enforcement might want to see or have a copy of.

If I had access to these pages, I would be glad to assist directly, but unfortunately I am apparently blocked from viewing them.

If you anyone needs any assistance in figuring out how to do "Print to PDF" or "Save to PDF" let me know and I will come up with some more detailed explanation and tips.

[WolfHouse]

On a more 'today's' front. What do you locals see?
Are there still dark vans around the Straub neighborhood?
Have any bodies been found floating in the local rivers?
Any odd shootings?
Has Toledo been totally crime free since these dastardly murders?
Has the muzzle been put on the retired Sgt?
Does "Nothing smell Rotten in Denmark?"

[Miss Conspiracy]

OK so I finally caught up for the most part and WOW is about all I can say. Maytee since I see you are avidly ( sorry if I misspelled) watching this page, why not join us and give us insight? We are all here for the same reason you are JUSTICE FOR JOHNNY AND LISA. Reading you would know that some of us have contacted LE and others have talked about contacting AMW. Seems to me you are simply pissed off that there is a group of people whom you may or may not know that maybe getting close or have a good idea of what may have happened, yet we will not know until LE gives us the details of course. Maybe I am off by saying that you are pissed that we are getting close and theres something you know that one of us has brought up? Noone in thier right minds after a horrible crime like that was committed to one of our kids would be so mad towards others that are trying to find answers in the case or wanting justice for the families of the victims unless they themselves have something to hide and dont want it out in the open. But thats JMO.

a valiant effort indeed but this will fall on deaf ears. Maytee will NEVER understand that we are all here for the same thing and that is Justice for Johnny & Lisa. The reason I feel she is never going to get it, is because she is so close minded and so unwilling to admit that her son was not an angel. I think she HATES us because we have been talking and insinuating about Johnny's lifestyle with drugs/gangs/prison etc and for that reason Maytee will forever dislike us. She cannot SEE that Johnny was not the perfect angel she thinks he was, nor is she, and if anyone says anything different, you are dead to her and she will not listen to what you have to say. We are NOT saying these things about Johnny so that we can tarnish his name or his rep or for ANYTHING negative, we are just trying to FIND THE TRUTH! Even if it means having to dig into his not-so-pretty past. I'm sorry but that's just the TRUTH! Open your eyes Maytee, stop being in denial about Johnny. That does not mean he was a bad person or deserved any of this - he DID NOT! He looks like a very handsome, very bright young man that had great potential and it is very wrong, unfair and horrible that his life, and Lisa's were taken away. But you will NEVER get justice if you don't admit to the things he, You, anyone here, have been or was involved with.

We ALL want these assholes caught!!!

[Miss Conspiracy]

i no longer wish to give her a forum or venue.
threats are not allowed here.

I think that alot of us would have a difficult time being respectful to her.

perhaps. but nobody here would make threats. to anyone. i think she quickly realized she crossed a line with her threats.

So let's not post her threats here. Nuff said. Anyone who wants to can
go read them elsewhere. I am lucky....my computer does not access them.

i disagree. it's part of the record. this thread is a record.

Ack! I'm getting confused now! lol.. are we or are we not allowed to post Maytee or anyone's threats on here? Sorry.. I dont want to break the rules!

[Lady Cop]

Miss Conspiracy: Ack! I'm getting confused now! lol.. are we or are we not allowed to post Maytee or anyone's threats on here? Sorry.. I dont want to break the rules!


her (maytee's) comments and threats have been posted here all along, and many earlier today if you want to backtrack. we are talking about more than the usual voodoo hoodoo.

i never said her posts could not be seen here, she is a principal in the case.

[Miss Conspiracy]

Yes, kudos to whomever has been doing all that reading, editing and copying and pasting, and two suggestions to make it even more useful:

1) Before you select all and copy, whenever you see the words "See More" click on those words and it will expand the paragraph to reveal more that the writer typed and posted than what you first see;

2) If you can, before copying the text, make a copy of the entire page by selecting "Print to PDF" usually found under File in the menubar of your browser. That will give you a perfect and permanent copy of that page which identifies whose FaceBook Page it is, etc. While you will not be posting that copy here, it will be actual proof of what existed on that page before it was deleted, changed or whatever; and even may at sometime be something law enforcement might want to see or have a copy of.

Hello...I was the one that copied a lot of that last night, and just wanted to point out that where it says "See more," I actually did click and expanded it. So it's all here in its full form, even though you can still see it says "See more" I guarantee you it is the full text. Not sure why it still said that at the end.. but I made sure that it was all there. I copied it all