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**Lady Cop** · 03-16-2011, 06:19 PM

Smooth, if you mean Maytee by m.c., it's OK to use her name as she is a principal in the case.

**onefortheroad** · 03-16-2011, 06:31 PM

(03-16-2011, 06:07 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: why does it seem that every one talk's alott of bs about t.w and what she has been threw in her life has nothing to do with this case people do make mistakes in their life & need guidance my focus is on m.c and the fact that she is nt telling the whole truth wich is having every one go crazy over this case 1)ok tw called jc mom and said she was un able to reach him after a hr after they talked ok fine may be phone did go dead why did m.c just jump to a conclusion that some thing was wrong did she know what her son was in to ? did she know what was going to happen ? dont get me wrong i do feel sorry for what happend im just trying to get the truth and nothing but the truth

Not sure what 'bs' is being mentioned here about TW, but saying she's 'been through' stuff in her life implies that it's now behind her, and her threats posted on FB prove that's not true. As far as I'm concerned, she has a lot to do with this case and could be the reason why Maytee got so scared once she knew TW was involved. It's too late for guidance to be able to help her; the only thing that can help her is to come clean and tell the truth about what happened that night. If she was the friend to Johnny & Lisa that she professed to be, she'd do just that.

**kitty1** · 03-16-2011, 06:34 PM

(03-16-2011, 06:07 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: why does it seem that every one talk's alott of bs about t.w and what she has been threw in her life has nothing to do with this case people do make mistakes in their life & need guidance my focus is on m.c and the fact that she is nt telling the whole truth wich is having every one go crazy over this case 1)ok tw called jc mom and said she was un able to reach him after a hr after they talked ok fine may be phone did go dead why did m.c just jump to a conclusion that some thing was wrong did she know what her son was in to ? did she know what was going to happen ? dont get me wrong i do feel sorry for what happend im just trying to get the truth and nothing but the truth

I'm sure your question has already been asked but I will give u my thoughts since nothing else is going on. Yes, I agree that not everyone's past dictates their present behavior. I too have a troubled past but that doesn't mean that I'm capable of robbery or murder. But in tiffany's case she is clearly still "gangsta" and in my opinion is hanging with alot of low life thugs many of whom have criminal records. It is not a far stretch to think that tiffany or any of her hoodrats could be involved in a robbery that went bad. I also believe the same for maydoo and her crowd. Alot of the stuff we refer to in regards to tiffany are things regarding her current behavior and not her past.

**onefortheroad** · 03-16-2011, 06:35 PM

(03-16-2011, 06:06 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Nina thanks! BA has a totally new Facebook page that she started - she has abandoned the old page pretty much last post on it was Valentines Day. On her new FB page she doesn't have TW as a friend - however I'm sure Tiff has BA old page on hers. Crazy LOL!

Another person she no longer has as a friend is the guy who was in the pics with Lisa's sister and also in the pics TW posted on her own page just after the murders, the ones with VD & BA.

**smooth criminal** · 03-16-2011, 06:39 PM

ok tw was the las person that he talked to but we do not know that for fact becuase know one is actually giving us the whole story ,i just want to speak on t.w behalf that just becuase she had a bad life does not make her a murderer and far as maytee goes she keep's drawing more attention to her self (one person can only stay silent for so long untill they start feeling gulity for what they did ) the truth will come out i hope sooner then later i would hate for this to become a cold case unsolved =/............

**NightOwl** · 03-16-2011, 06:42 PM

(03-16-2011, 06:35 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 06:06 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Nina thanks! BA has a totally new Facebook page that she started - she has abandoned the old page pretty much last post on it was Valentines Day. On her new FB page she doesn't have TW as a friend - however I'm sure Tiff has BA old page on hers. Crazy LOL!

Another person she no longer has as a friend is the guy who was in the pics with Lisa's sister and also in the pics TW posted on her own page just after the murders, the ones with VD & BA.

Hmmm, GOOD find!

**JsMom** · 03-16-2011, 06:46 PM

(03-16-2011, 05:48 PM)Nina Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 05:09 PM)NightOwl Wrote: JsMom have you been able to reach Tiffany yet? I have 2 more questions for you.

VD Johnnys friend is also a friend of Tiffs - BA is VD's girlfriend she has removed herself from Tiffs friends list but, VD is still on it
Thanks JsMom!

BA and VD are both still friends with TW on FaceB. JsMom is not.

I NEVER said I was on her friends list! I said we have talked and I can message her!

**JsMom** · 03-16-2011, 06:47 PM

(03-16-2011, 05:08 PM)NightOwl Wrote: JsMom have you been able to reach Tiffany yet? I have 2 more questions for you.

Can you ask Tiff if she can tell us how many people showed up at Johnny & Lisa's party on the Saturday and can she give their initials? VD Johnnys friend is also a friend of Tiffs - BA is VD's girlfriend she has removed herself from Tiffs friends list but, VD is still on it - can Tiff ask VD what kind of car Johnny was driving and how far VD's home is to TGIFriday's. Can Tiff ask VD if Johnny gave anyone a ride over to TGIFridays or gave anyone a ride home prior to picking up Lisa?

Thanks JsMom!

She hasnt responded to the first questions yet...IDK if she will

**smooth criminal** · 03-16-2011, 06:51 PM

bs means bull shit

**JsMom** · 03-16-2011, 06:56 PM

(03-16-2011, 06:51 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: bs means bull shit

uuummmmm........yah! it sure does

**JsMom** · 03-16-2011, 06:56 PM

Wheres my buddy~Toldeo Native :(

**Freshbait78** · 03-16-2011, 06:58 PM

Please remove yourself from this page you evil demon tiffanny williams you know i know your a hoodrat drug dealing whore strung out cheating pathetic excuse for human life... We all know you set johnny n lisa up to get robbed n murdered and KARMA is catching you trust me you will not get away eith murder hoodrat just like you set up j j for your baby daddy to rob and j j killed him in self defense you have a one way ticket to deathrow n hell you evil whore

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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Karma started for you the day you set up j j and your baby daddy robbed him and j j killed him in self defense and now hoodrat you set up my johnny n lisa beacause of your pathetic jealousy and thinking her parents had all this cash in the house after you been there acting like you were their friend two days in a row and scoping out the house to have them robbed and killed the next day acting like you was really trying to hang out tgat night too
5 minutes ago.

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Pssssstttttt you pathetic liar johnny n lisa had no intention on picking you and your fiend out boyfriend Z that night thats why when he picked lisa up they went home and park in garage... Who the fuck you trying to fool whore you know your caught and guess what noone including you gets away with murder you scandalous whore you know i had you pick up john to trap your ass out tgere til i got there cus the minute i heard all the lies coming out your mouth i knew you was guilty as sin
about a minute ago..

**kitty1** · 03-16-2011, 06:59 PM

(03-16-2011, 06:39 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: ok tw was the las person that he talked to but we do not know that for fact becuase know one is actually giving us the whole story ,i just want to speak on t.w behalf that just becuase she had a bad life does not make her a murderer and far as maytee goes she keep's drawing more attention to her self (one person can only stay silent for so long untill they start feeling gulity for what they did ) the truth will come out i hope sooner then later i would hate for this to become a cold case unsolved =/............

I don't think alot of people are calling her a murderer. I think most of us are saying that possibly she knows more than she is letting on or she is in some way culpable. I personally don't think she or Maytee layed a hand on either of them.

**Freshbait78** · 03-16-2011, 07:09 PM

If you did talk to my son as you say you did whore and heard a struggle why the fuck did you wAit two hours to have someone call me you lying whore and why didnt you call the police then??? You fucking whore your gonna die sitting in deathrow with a one way ticket to rot in hell for wat you did to johnny n lisa
7 minutes ago.

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez You think im stupid you whore you dont think i know your guilty from day one you stupid skank... If i heard anyone in a strugle the right thing to do is call 911 you whore but you didnt you waited two hours to have a person call me cus you wanted to make sure your lil goon crew didnt get caught... You will pay for wat you did but trust n believe your all caught noone gets away
3 minutes ago.

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez I cnt wait to see you all die n rot in hell deathrow awaits you all whore and i know johnny n lisa spirits haunt you all nite n day im glad they wont let you rest
a few seconds ago.

**smooth criminal** · 03-16-2011, 07:09 PM

wow all this crazy shit over t.w come on know she had lead a bad life but as far as saying she is a murderer is insane so if t.w is a gangsta and into drug's why did jc befriend her may be because he was partaking in the same activity's as t.w who know's only god does and who are you to sitt her and accuse some one of somthing with not knowing all the truth's what happend to being innocent till proven guilty o.m.g well if they think t.w is the main suspect why havent they made any arrest yet i think maybe their is more then what's being told to this story ................ ?

**Lady Cop** · 03-16-2011, 07:11 PM

well now Maytee is flat-out accusing Tiffany in public. she really ought to cool her jets and let LE take care of it. some lawyer is going to run with this shit nomatter who goes to trial. not smart.

**kitty1** · 03-16-2011, 07:12 PM

(03-16-2011, 07:09 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: wow all this crazy shit over t.w come on know she had lead a bad life but as far as saying she is a murderer is insane so if t.w is a gangsta and into drug's why did jc befriend her may be because he was partaking in the same activity's as t.w who know's only god does and who are you to sitt her and accuse some one of somthing with not knowing all the truth's what happend to being innocent till proven guilty o.m.g well if they think t.w is the main suspect why havent they made any arrest yet i think maybe their is more then what's being told to this story ................ ?

of course there is more to the story!!!! No one said that tiffany is a suspect. (Well of course Maytee does) We are all just speculating!!!!!

**JsMom** · 03-16-2011, 07:13 PM

(03-16-2011, 07:11 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: well now Maytee is flat-out accusing Tiffany in public. she really ought to cool her jets and let LE take care of it. some lawyer is going to run with this shit nomatter who goes to trial.

Right!

**JsMom** · 03-16-2011, 07:17 PM

flip it

**smooth criminal** · 03-16-2011, 07:18 PM

i agree

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