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**ALWAYSBITCHEN** · 04-01-2011, 06:08 PM

Just becuase they are in the military and doesnt not have a criminal record doesnt make him no SAINT by far...... Smiley_emoticons_biggrin

**WolfHouse** · 04-01-2011, 06:22 PM

If each of you were told to 'think outside the box' and give one new
possibility at any step of the crime, what would it be?

**ALWAYSBITCHEN** · 04-01-2011, 06:35 PM

oh shit I forgot them, dam caps again...geees im just gonna put a piece of tape over it so I dont do it again....I think I use caps all the time because the teachers always made me sit in the back ogf the classroom and i was like 4ft.10 and I had to jump up and down to see what she was writing..No guys get ur mind outta the gutter I was 4ft 10 so just imagine my little pancake chests werent doing any bouncing!!!!but Iam sorry I just forget!!!!

**Adub** · 04-01-2011, 06:42 PM

(04-01-2011, 05:01 PM)NightOwl Wrote:
(04-01-2011, 04:28 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Scales indicate drug dealing...straight up, there's no getting around that.

If they belonged to Lisa's parents for weighing food I will be delighted to come back & eat all the crow you all care to hand me.

Could the scales have been left laying around from the party the night before?

Nobody brings the scales out for a party.

**justme** · 04-01-2011, 06:52 PM

(04-01-2011, 06:22 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: If each of you were told to 'think outside the box' and give one new
possibility at any step of the crime, what would it be?

Check out people who were at the "party" the night before. Some one scoped the house out--knew Lisa would be at work and Johnny watching game at other friend's house. Go in to rob the house --Lisa gets off work a little early. JC and Ls get to the house and surprise the robbers. Johnny and Lisa know who they are and that's why they are murdered. IMO of course

**pspence** · 04-01-2011, 06:55 PM

We need Unknown back on here with his inside info....

**curious** · 04-01-2011, 07:04 PM

You ask and you shall receive...it was well calculated and set up by Maytee out of extreme jealousy that her Johnny was being taken away from her.

I think LS waa the target and the intent was to have JC appear to have been abducted but found alive tied up in the basement. She knew TW was going over that night so what better person to pin it on. Not to mention the dad who "found" them and ripped open the bags leaving DNA behind.

There, said it and now just waitin' for the shit to hit the fan...but honestly, as long as it keeps the case alive, I can deal.

My personal opinion

**Wish.I.was.a.P.I** · 04-01-2011, 07:04 PM

Justice Will Prevail for Johnny and Lisa
Rest in heaven my sweet love johnny n lisa god has taken care of what those evil demons did to you we know beyond a reasonable doubt who they are and their is no escape for them thank you god now lets send them to deathrow n hell for all eternity!!! Amen
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Let's hope this is true.

**fabulous** · 04-01-2011, 07:08 PM

(04-01-2011, 06:22 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: If each of you were told to 'think outside the box' and give one new
possibility at any step of the crime, what would it be?

that the STRAUB's know more than they are telling.

**WolfHouse** · 04-01-2011, 07:20 PM

Come on. I said 'stretch' LOL

**justme** · 04-01-2011, 07:23 PM

(04-01-2011, 07:08 PM)fabulous Wrote:
(04-01-2011, 06:22 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: If each of you were told to 'think outside the box' and give one new
possibility at any step of the crime, what would it be?

that the STRAUB's know more than they are telling.

I agree with fabulous

**Freshbait78** · 04-01-2011, 07:25 PM

(04-01-2011, 03:40 PM)Methusala Wrote: He may have simply commented to her, as he did to the press, that the conditions found upstairs made it look like they were looking for a built-in safe, and that none existed. In addition, if I were in his shoes, I would have been thinking about the cruel irony that the break-in and murders may have been motivated solely by a belief in something which never existed.

I don't see any internal inconsistency in what he said to the press. He said it looked like they were looking for a non-existent safe. In addition, having a home safe which opens with a key would be highly unusual. They almost all have combination locks, not key locks. (Another source has indicated that the key was to a storage locker.)

Methulsa, Mr Verbosky did NOT say that the conditions upstairs made it look like they were looking for a safe. He said "They were looking for a safe, one that never existed" I've read this same statement twice. Once in a Blade article & once in a transcript of a interview he did with the news. My question is, how was he so certain that they were looking for a safe? That is all. I would also like to add that it may be unusual for a safe to be opened with a key & combination, but not unheard of. As I've already stated my dad had a safe that needed a key & combination. I don't know who the source was that verified that the key was to a storage locker, it was my understanding that it was never determined what the key went to. If it was a key to a storage locker.... which storage locker?

**Duchess** · 04-01-2011, 07:29 PM

I thought the key had something to do with the security control box.

**NightOwl** · 04-01-2011, 07:34 PM

(04-01-2011, 06:42 PM)Adub Wrote: Nobody brings the scales out for a party.

Adub, Good answer! but, it could be a trick the scales.

A psychopath is full of tricks and deceit.

Can you find out if a protection order was in place for Lisa?

**Nina** · 04-01-2011, 07:52 PM

NIGHTOWL: Johnny and Lisa were murdered, by someone very angry - they just could not accept them being in LOVE. IMO

STUPID THEORY

CURIOUS: it was well calculated and set up by Maytee out of extreme jealousy that her Johnny was being taken away from her.

EVEN MORE STUPID THEORY

But thats just MY personal opinion. You ladies have been watching way too much Lifetime Movie Channel.

The most likely scenario has already been talked about over and over. Johnny was a small time drug dealer. He told the cops who his supplier was in a plea deal when he was in jail (or it was rumored that he did in the hood) and a bunch of these hood rat guys were pissed off at him (all the mentions of snitching in the couple weeks before the murders on FB). They were waiting for a chance to punish him for it (AG's reference to Johnny being scared to go somewhere AG might be).

Everybody knew Lisa's parents were out of town because they had a little party over the weekend.; everybody knew Johnny had some weed and/or pills - ALL these kids do that shit and its just not a party without it. At least two, possibly three guys went over there and waited for JC/LS to get home. Johnny didn't even lock the garage door because they were only coming home for LS to change - easy entry. One or two guys thought they were only going over there to rough Johnny up, scare the shit out of him and take his shit to teach him a lesson. But one of the guys was a pyschopath and intended to kill them all along - which is why he brought the duct tape and bags. They didn't take TVs etc because the other guys freaked out about pyscho boy actually killing JC/LS and wanted to get the hell out of there.

And I still think TW played a role in all this. She buddied up to LS and helped set this whole thing up but she didn't know anyone was going to get killed - she just thought there'd be a little ass-kicking and drug stealing.

All of this is just my personal theory/opinion.

ZEROSPHERES · 04-01-2011, 07:58 PM

(04-01-2011, 06:52 PM)justme Wrote:
(04-01-2011, 06:22 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: If each of you were told to 'think outside the box' and give one new
possibility at any step of the crime, what would it be?

Check out people who were at the "party" the night before. Some one scoped the house out--knew Lisa would be at work and Johnny watching game at other friend's house. Go in to rob the house --Lisa gets off work a little early. JC and Ls get to the house and surprise the robbers. Johnny and Lisa know who they are and that's why they are murdered. IMO of course

Thats concise and very plausable...I like it...

ZEROSPHERES · 04-01-2011, 08:04 PM

(04-01-2011, 06:55 PM)pspence Wrote: We need Unknown back on here with his inside info....

I think 'CONCERNED' is as close as we will get to 'UNKNOWN'....But I will bet he (unknown) has been tuned in all along.

**Nina** · 04-01-2011, 08:11 PM

(04-01-2011, 06:52 PM)justme Wrote:
(04-01-2011, 06:22 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: If each of you were told to 'think outside the box' and give one new
possibility at any step of the crime, what would it be?

Check out people who were at the "party" the night before. Some one scoped the house out--knew Lisa would be at work and Johnny watching game at other friend's house. Go in to rob the house --Lisa gets off work a little early. JC and Ls get to the house and surprise the robbers. Johnny and Lisa know who they are and that's why they are murdered. IMO of course

That is a good theory too. Very plausible.

**Freshbait78** · 04-01-2011, 08:12 PM

(04-01-2011, 08:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote: I think 'CONCERNED' is as close as we will get to 'UNKNOWN'....But I will bet he (unknown) has been tuned in all along.

Speaking of Unknown, I was just informed that he is the one who said the key was for the security box in the basement. Unknown had some good insider info but I don't take everything Unknown said as the gospel truth. How did unknown know what they key went to? & why did the media bother to mention it at all?

Blah! Russian

I don't know. I read about the safe again last night in those articles & it just rubbed me the wrong way for some odd reason.

**Nina** · 04-01-2011, 08:17 PM

AG: plese oh please gimme the chance n i promise i wont disappoint anyone who bleeds jus like me n thatz on my life

TW: bby u can have as many chances as u need wyt me...! evn tho thats not towards me..but im jus letting u kno...but i kno we aint gonn need chances cuz we ae perfec now just how we are....we got eeryting we both ever wated its perfect..!

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