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In the first 20 seconds of the 911 call she says they lived there: http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/stor...?id=576342
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By the time of this interview, her story had changed...
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/End...isRss=true
VAZQUEZ: Johnny was in barber school. Johnny was in barber school. And Johnny had been staying with Lisa for the past few weeks. The kids were back and forth between my house and Lisa`s house. They would stay at my house a week or two. They would go to Lisa`s house a week or two. They were always back and forth.
Since the parents had the cruise planned to go out of town, the kids were going to be out there house-sitting.
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So I'm assuming the garage door was down and the doors were locked that's why Dad kicked in the front door. So then the thugs locked the doors after they left? Strange.
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(10-11-2011, 10:00 PM)JsMom Wrote: (10-11-2011, 05:19 PM)Adub Wrote: (10-11-2011, 05:14 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: these people vote and drive, scary!
What is up with your username 
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She got her username from Marilyn Miglin very expensive concealer! Good gosh I bet undercovercameo nearly flipped when Cameo was arrested! what a coincidence!
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It is a little freaky but who knew. Maybe I should have chosen Marilyn instead. It is funny though.
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(10-11-2011, 03:51 PM)netsleuth Wrote: (10-11-2011, 03:46 PM)Snoopy Wrote: I shall not judge, but the police records do say, that his mother was into stuff, and the police records, do NOT say that her (Lisa's) parents were at all. I am sorry, but as parents we do set examples for our children. I will be the first to say that my own mother was a meth addict, and we suffered the casualties of her choices. Most of us made better choices in our lives, yet my younger brother did get hooked up on Crack, and died just a few years ago from over dose on this drug.
So, if you were to die horribly, at the hands of brutal thugs, who did not know your parents, would it be appropriate to blame your Mother? How about comparing your Mother to your spouse's Mother in an effort to place blame? Don't you think it makes more sense to rightly focus on the THUGS WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME?
my brother died by his own hand- no one made choices for him. Those of us that loved him, are just a mere casualty of the choices he made. I do not blame my mother directly, nor do I fail to wonder if he would of made better choices without her influcence to guide him. It is what it is.
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(10-11-2011, 04:24 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i happen to KNOW the Straubs are loving and devoted. they avoid the courtroom 2-minute video arraignments so as to avoid that nutjob maytee. maytee has shit all over them in public on facebook for not being there. and has been told to STFU. the Straubs are, shall we say, leery of that loon. they aren't on the 'net and want to be left quietly alone in their own dignified manner. they are not screeching attention whores. maytee had no right to chastise them for their choice to attend or not attend. it's not a trial yet. nor does she have the right to "speak for Lisa".
Thank U so much LC for making that clear, yet once again!!!! I am sick and tired of the attacks on Lisa's family...they want justice and have class and dignity...they are loving and kind, good people! They are always present in this case and cry for justice, they just choose and we should all know why not to endure any extra time around the Clarke family. The gag order is imposed on ALL, and the only thing that has sort of shut this crazy Maytee bitch up, I hope (and that is mean) she fucks up so she is banned from the trial...she is not anything more than a hinderence and frankly sometimes we all still suspect her intentions and motives here in Toledo. Also please know their are many educated and kind individuals in Toledo, you are only seeing the bad, as any community has because of the publicity and horrific nature of the crime. The best part of this community is, like any other and maybe even more so because of the six degrees of seperation...we WILL most definitely take care of our own and do whatever necessary to bring justice in some way to these poor murdered children.
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(10-12-2011, 12:45 AM)Snoopy Wrote: (10-11-2011, 03:51 PM)netsleuth Wrote: [quote='Snoopy' pid='195453' dateline='1318362406']
I shall not judge, but the police records do say, that his mother was into stuff, and the police records, do NOT say that her (Lisa's) parents were at all. I am sorry, but as parents we do set examples for our children. I will be the first to say that my own mother was a meth addict, and we suffered the casualties of her choices. Most of us made better choices in our lives, yet my younger brother did get hooked up on Crack, and died just a few years ago from over dose on this drug.
So, if you were to die horribly, at the hands of brutal thugs, who did not know your parents, would it be appropriate to blame your Mother? How about comparing your Mother to your spouse's Mother in an effort to place blame? Don't you think it makes more sense to rightly focus on the THUGS WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME?
Make no mistake, the only people responsible for this crime are the ones who chose to commit it. Texas born and raised, I am all about the death penalty and pray that comes to those who committed this crime. Regardless of their upbringing, I do not feel the death penalty is "vengeance" nor do I see it in biblical terms. to me it what is effective. Face it, Ted Bundy was in jail when he broke out and killed more people. Obviously, that is not effective. Since he has been executed, how many has he killed???? NONE Now that is effective!!!
my brother died by his own hand- no one made choices for him. Those of us that loved him, are just a mere casualty of the choices he made. I do not blame my mother directly, nor do I fail to wonder if he would of made better choices without her influence to guide him. It is what it is. At the end of the day, that is all it is.
and for the record, I do not blame Maytee one way or the other, I could personally careless, Not my business really. I have not ever met her, nor do I know her. Her record shows that she has embraced some challenges in her life that perhaps, were not the best challenges for her children to see nor embrace in their own lives. You take that for what you will. As I said, my own brother may have followed a path into drugs without my mother's influence,or with it- who knows really?, how would any one know? But for you to tie this to this situation to Maytee is on you, because I never implied that it meant anything beyond my own experience within my own family. And I would not take it personal and walk around with it if I were you and had choice. It is what it is, and that is simply all it is! nothing more!
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(10-11-2011, 04:44 PM)netsleuth Wrote: (10-11-2011, 04:29 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: Who thinks like you ? Never mind ,I already know. What a ridiculous statement. The poor Straub family has been lambasted by members of the other family since the onset of this tragedy.
Poor Straub family? BOTH families are "poor" given what happened to their children, yet only one family has any sympathy here? The Clarke family has been dragged through the mud for your collective entertainment, from day one.
Not to mention, some of the Straub family members have asserted here that Johnny's "big mouth" regarding a reported safe, is what led to the murders. Pathetic logic. Especially considering reports of a safe were denied by the Straub family.
What Maytee said from the beginning is that her son was not connected to the murders. She said this because not only did the media immediately point to him, but because TW was a friend of Lisa's. And, because she had concerns that Lisa reportedly violent X was involved. I never heard her blame Lisa or the Straubs. She talked about the "demons" responsible from the beginning. She also retaliated against the incognito assaults and innuendo here and other places.
Who thinks like me? My position is that both families deserve compassion and sympathy given the horror they've experienced. I would venture to guess that most Americans think like me, in this regard.
Let me as I work through this mind blowing stupid shit explain, if you can read and apparently can cause you can write....you will note and see proof over and over again that Maytee did attack and condemn the Straub's including stating her son would not be dead if not for the suburbs...Ridiculous nonsense!!!! The Straub family is present even if no one states it...they have family members there, they are just not media whores and want true justice! Her parents will be at the trial, I agree with the above post that I am tooooooo pissed to look up who wrote it, that they just are saving up time to not be wasted on a 5 minute arraingment with the Clarke family. They know this a hard road to travel and have done it with dignity...they are good people and just because they choose not to make asses of them selves on television does NOT mean they are not present, not in pain, don't care or are any less victimized than MAYTEE!!! You need to wake the fuck up and take a reality pill laced with critical thinking ability!!!
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opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one. Your life is what you make it! Maytee made bad choices and she will live with that the rest of her life. Now arrest the one who set them up. thats the one i want to see. I would bet money that there are more arrests to be made.
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back in court shortly. will be brief.
It did not appear that Mr. Pettaway's family members were at the arraignment yesterday afternoon.
Mr. Williams and Mr. Pettaway are childhood friends and are still "very close," Mr. Pettaway's mother, Kenyatta Baker, has told The Blade.
Judge Ramey granted Mr. Pettaway a public defender and the case was continued to 10 a.m. today.
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Justice for Johnny & Lisa
I WILL BE YOUR VOICE JOHNNY AND LISA LOVE YOU BOTH FOREVER
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I believe that this post, by Maytee, emphasizes her true callousness and wanton disregard for the rights of the Straub family.
The Straubs (through family spokesman Jim Verbosky) stated, in the Toledo Blade (Oct. 1, 2011):
Mr. Verbosky said despite comments from members of Clarke's family that they speak on behalf of both the victims, Miss Straub's parents, through him, are only the voice of their daughter.
"Jeff and Mary Beth [Straub] will speak on Lisa's behalf," he said, adding that the family knows that there is a long road ahead of them. "… The family is definitely ready to be there and will be there [in court]."
http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2011/1...ouple.html
I believe Maytee's continuing to state that she will be the voice of Lisa, after Lisa's family claimed that right and duty, is a conscious and deliberate disregard for the wishes of a grieving family and a arrogant display of self importance. It also emphasizes a complete lack of respect towards parents who are grieving, too.
She has neither the authority nor the permission of Lisa's family to speak on her behalf.
This is no subtle attempt to disrespect the Straub family.
It is blatant, deliberate, insensitive and cruel.
Go ahead, Maytee apologists . . . blame this one on Mock!
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and let us not forget the nearly immediate attempted clarke suit against the Straubs' homeowners insurance. it seems johnny had his high-end electronics, ipod, 62" flat-screen TV, laptop, blackberry, stereo system, diamond jewelry he was going to give Lisa, and Rolex collection there in their nasty unsafe ghetto neighborhood suburban house, as well as his custom Ferrari, and the thugs stole those! that was certainly not greedy and grasping and fraudulent! it was out of concern for another family who had lost their dearly-departed and beloved-by-maytee child. ![[Image: sarcasm.gif]](http://www.nopc.info/forum/images/smilies/sarcasm.gif) how very kind, caring and sensitive. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
please note sarcasm before asking me about Johnny's 'belongings' that were 'stolen'. i won't discuss it.
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Sure a lot of items to have at the Straubs,you know ,since he didn't live there.
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please note sarcasm before asking me about Johnny's 'belongings' that were 'stolen'. i won't discuss it. [/b]
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lisas parents know what johnny had and did not have. may be why the straubs are waiting for the important part of court to start before they have to come face to face with her. jmo
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(10-12-2011, 04:50 PM)sharit Wrote: lisas parents know what johnny had and did not have. may be why the straubs are waiting for the important part of court to start before they have to come face to face with her. jmo
To me, LC was being blatantly sarcastic with her inventory of goods!
IF the Straubs resided in an HOA (Homeowner's Association) community, then there is a strong posibility that, in fact, a "claim" was paid by the HOA's insurance carrier.
I have clients who are HOAs. I've seen this type of behavior before.
Think of it as a new twist on the old "Slip and Fall" chestnut.
Make a fews 'threats' about a lawsuit, blather about pain and suffering, lost future income, potential offspring . . . etc.
Then throw in bad publicity, downward real estate prices and the cost of a trial and (in many cases) the insurance carrier tosses a few bucks in their direction, has them sign a non-disclosure statement and it's bidnez as usual.
It's pretty straight forward and most folks, who want to make a quick buck, usually grab this brass ring. It's really just a "shakedown" dressed-up in alleged pain and suffering.
If it is true that this really happened, it's quite surprising and a bit disconcerting to me. I have no reason to doubt it didn't happen.
But then, if I truly believed that an injustice was done, I'd fight it in the open and file a lawsuit. There's always a settlement hearing before a trial.
However . . . one should be represented by counsel.
Maybe that's the rub. No attorney was willing to take the case based on the facts. Or they jumped at the first pieces of silver tossed their way.
Sad. Very sad.
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a "fake lie"- that's a new one! Doesn't that equal the truth?
It's the hint of arsenic that gives it that extra kick.
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(10-12-2011, 08:39 PM)kfran Wrote: a "fake lie"- that's a new one! Doesn't that equal the truth?
Golly, kfran.
I think you just made Maytee remove her post!
And if she's put on the stand and is cross-examined by the defense, I'll bet she'll fold just like her posts.
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can you imagine when the defense questions her. I can hear it now, Mrs vasquez have you posted on any internet sites? Bahahaha!
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