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		 (02-21-2012, 07:33 PM)Pico45 Wrote:  I want to know what happened in that house, how it went down, minute by minute. I also want to know how they planned it and everyone involved!!that is the only way a deal would be struck for either defendant. the whole story, the whole truth, and snitching. that can be a hurdle for them. 
 and we are just speculating a deal is on the table.
 
 remember BTK killer? he had to stand in the well of the court and detail every single cruel murder. it was sickening.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (02-21-2012, 02:34 PM)Duchess Wrote:  
 If there is a bargain made does that mean we'll be deprived of a trial?
 
 I ask because I'm very interested in finding out exactly what went down that night. Like everyone else, I have questions I'd like to see answered. I want details, damnit.
 
Good question Duchess!  
 
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		This doesn't relate to the case at all, but it was in the Holland Journal this week that Lindsay Straub is on the Dean's List at UT (University of Toledo). I was pleased to see that she is doing well after all that her family has been through the past year. 
	 
	
	
	
		
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		This was posted on the Lucas County Dockets online to-day on Destiny Madrid. 
Click on the Public Documents to see the transcript filed.
 
There seems to be assault charges pending from August. 
She lived with grandparents. 
Permanent Disability listed as Asthma. 
She was working on a GED at Owens. 
She is a pauper.
 
CASE:	G	-4801	-CR	-201201306-000		  
TITLE:	S/O V DESTINY MADRID	  
JUDGE:		  
FILING DATE:	2/23/2012	CASE TYPE:	  ACV	  ACTIVATION OF CASE	  
MONETARY AMOUNT:	 	DOCKET/PAGE:	 	  
ORIGINAL COURT:	 	TAX TYPE:	 	  
PREVIOUS CASE NUMBER:	 	STATE OF OHIO NUMBER:	 	  
Party	  	Counsel		Prosecutor 
DEFENDT-NO BILL 1:					 
MADRID DESTINY 
453 THURSTON 
TOLEDO, OH  43605				 
DATE	SEQ	EVENT 
1/27/2012	1	Title : OPN  YLVANIA TRANSCRIPT FILED 
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE 
PARTY : DN1 - MADRID DESTINY 
1/27/2012	2	Title : BND:TRANSCRIPT BOND 
MUNICIPAL COURT BOND SET AT 
$500,000.00 NO 10% & NO PROPERTY BOND 
PARTY : DN1 - MADRID DESTINY
	
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		Congrats to Lindsay. I have heard from certain people that she is doing well. A challenge, but she is doing well and misses her sister terribly!
	 
	
	
	
		
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		I'm sure Lisa looked up to Lindsey and would of went far had her life not been taken away. This is one sad story. 
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Justice for Johnny & LisaTHIS REWARD GOES TO ANYONE THAT HELPS BRING TO JUSTICE AND ARRESTS THE REST OF THE EVIL DEMONS INVOLVED IN THIS MOST HENIOUS CRIME PLEASE WE URGE YOU TO CALL AND HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT GET THE REST OF THESE DEMONS OFF OUR STREETS!!!!!! thank you
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		OK, This is one of Maytee's new posts. I don't know how to post & get pictures etc. What I'm getting at here, is that there is more to her post. It would seem like she is convinced more people are involved! There is a photo of an reward that's offered. I don't think it's official because of the grammar (seen). Maybe somebody can post and get all of it. 
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Here's the picture Older Than Dirt.  I was gone all evening just got home & wow! This should help out! ![[Image: 423604_267349046674944_148994481843735_5...0844_n.jpg]](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423604_267349046674944_148994481843735_570070_515780844_n.jpg) 
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		From the RIP Johnny Facebook page comments:-
 JF, If u dont mind me askin..What happened to the couple of ppl they arrested a couple months back for it?? I hope they find these ppl soon..So u can have some closure..Rest in heaven Johnny and Lisa...
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 RIP Johnny, They are in custody already but more demons walking the streets still need captured please post and share this thank you
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		Justice for Johnny & LisaON A MISSION......i will make sure you are all caught and taken off the streets forever!!!! $$$$ talks remember that
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		Do you think there is any possibilty that Maytee REALLY  knows that there are others?????
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (02-25-2012, 01:32 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote:  Do you think there is any possibilty that Maytee REALLY  knows that there are others?????No way...It's just posturing.  Offering 50k that you are certain you never have to pay can be twisted to make you look concerned and diligent. 
	
	
	
		
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		i don't think the reward fund is the clarke's money. neither of them work or have a pot to piss in from what we have been told before. i don't know what they do. 
 if someone who was not involved with murders, who would not have to implicate themselves hasn't snitched yet, they probably won't. this reward has been on the table for quite some time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
		
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		There are two confidential informants that are included in the discovery as well as something from crimestoppers. Hopefully those two will ...  ![[Image: th_387870_144211539022464_10000300856886...3276_n.jpg]](http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee411/Newman60/th_387870_144211539022464_100003008568866_173524_1425383276_n.jpg)  
	
	
	
		
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		Adub, Heres your chance to hit 1000 post!!!! How do you know all that?????  
	 
	
	
	
		
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		The confidential informants info was one of the public documents on the court website. I'm thinking that Destiny's step-dad may have ratted her out. Just don't know if that was before or after Williams was arrested. Can't remember if there was a CS or AS or ACS in the discovery or not. 
	 
	
	
	
		
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		One of my favorite sites! But way to much reading at times.
	 
	
	
	
		
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		So Madrid lists 8th grade as her education. 21 years old and working on her GED. Somebody dropped the ball with this child. Living with her grandparents while Mom raises two other children with a man that has spent years in jail for not paying child support for kids from a previous relationship. What a fucking waste. I think Destiny's father's last name is Lucas. Have no idea if Destiny ever had a relationship with her bio dad. But she has family that could have, should have made sure the girl finished high school.
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		 (02-25-2012, 01:59 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:  i don't think the reward fund is the clarke's money. neither of them work or have a pot to piss in from what we have been told before. i don't know what they do. to expound a little on this...maytee is getting disability for being bi-polar. she has never worked. just robbery, drug sales and suing people. gorilla man hasn't held a job since he got out of prison. they live off welfare, benefits and parents.
 if someone who was not involved with murders, who would not have to implicate themselves hasn't snitched yet, they probably won't. this reward has been on the table for quite some time.
 (setting an example and teaching work-ethic to the remaining sons.)
 they are big suppurating pustules on society's unwashed  ass. all this is my opinion of course.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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