Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Lady Cop]

maytee is probably being secured into a strait jacket right now.

i think blood will flow, especially if williams walks too.

i will be doing an aftermath thread for us when williams verdict comes in.

[NightOwl]

"Just Me" was in the courtroom today and will post what took place when she gets home. She said that Judge Bates acquitted Pettaway.
They won't be able to try him again for murder due to Double Jeopardy. This whole disgusting, dirty case makes me sick!

There is no double jeopardy on a dismissal.

Could the judge be smart in doing this? I know if the jury found him not guilty he couldn't be tried again.

One way to look at it. the Judge saw the big not guilty coming.

Oh! gosh yes! he's smarter than he looks! hope your right.

[ramseycat]

I keep checking back to see if anyone as a report on Maytee's reaction. I fully expect her to completely break down.

[bksmrt13]

Please God tell me they sequestered Williams's jury before Bates granted the motion to dismiss

[shitstorm]

jash Wrote:
so what about all the lights being on and the cabinets opened?


the lights were on and at the top of the stairs which the stairs are right at the front door there was a closet opened.but never did i say the house was ransacked.johnnys mother said i said that.that was a lie #3103

Thanks for that, misshmarie! I had forgotten that. Figures it was Maytee mucking things up.

[NightOwl]

13 abc and wtol i know you read here. your inaccurate reporting is shameful and unprofessional. you were in such a hurry you don't check FACTS as reporters should do! FOR SHAME! just print anything that pops into your sophomoric junior-reporter alleged brains.

the toledo blade did a professional accurate job.

[Lady Cop]

Please God tell me they sequestered Williams's jury before Bates granted the motion to dismiss

you read my mind, i posted that early this morning. i have some reporter telling me jury in williams has the case. there have been no reports on closings!!

[wupdawg]

Toledo Blade reported closing arguements began but were going to continue after lunch.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2012/0...-case.html

[Lady Cop]

email from WTOL11

Okay, from our reporter in the courtroom, closing arguments ended and the case was given to the jury. Deliberations are ongoing. Our reporter in the courtroom has to get the video from the closing arguments from 13abc (they were the pool camera there) and we will have reports at 5pm and 6pm and WTOL and at 6:30pm on Fox Toledo.



blade says:

Jurors heard closing arguments from both the state and defense before breaking for lunch today in Lucas County Common Pleas Court. The state will have a second opportunity to argue to jurors during the afternoon.

[JustSayin...]

Sorry I haven't posted sooner. I did not make to court today, but I was at Pettaway's trial yesterday morning and Williams trial yesterday afternoon. Mostly tedious cell phone records that were used to support the accounts of Zach Burkett, Tiffany Williams and Alex Cousino, at least to some extent. Cell tower records support Alex and Zach's story of Alex leaving her home in East Toledo and picking up Zach before heading to the IHOP in Springfield Township with her grandparents (whose house in Springfield they had gone to), and then returning to East Toledo. However, this all occurred by 4:00pm Jan. 30, so it doesn't mean anything relative to the crime.

Phone records also indicated a complete (and reportedly very unusual) cessation of phone calls between Sam and Cameo between 9:41pm and 12:59am Jan. 30-31. My inference being that they knew there approximate location could be tracked.

So many questions have been raised by Mockers the last few days that I've been unable to respond to that I'm not sure I remember them all.

The State compared DNA from the scene with samples taken from, as far as I recall since joining Mock, every possible suspect mentioned here with the exception of one - Ben Dennis. His sample was never taken because, the investigator testified, he had already been eliminated as a suspect.

The account given by Eric Yingling bothers me because some of the irregularities, such as Sam initially telling him things started in the basement (they hadn't), the need to tape the bag on Lisa if she was already dead (which others here have offered plausible explanations for) and his account that after leaving they used a garage door opener taken from the house to close the overhead garage door and tossed it in the yard (Jeff Straub that the opener "appeared" on his kitchen counter months earlier. He doesn't know where it came from but assumed Lisa or one of her friends left it there. He tried to program it to work his door but was unsuccessful). It couldn't have been used to close the door. It seems to me that one explanation for the irregularities is that Yingling got his information from the internet. His criminal record, aside from the child support charge, involved using his computer to steal, and he admitted he was "phenomenal" with computers. Discovery documents, etc would have provided him access to that info to concoct his story, and the 911 call from Maytee accessible online mentions the basement. One thing the prosecution hit on yesterday while interviewing Detective Jeff Kozak was that the list of seized items was never made public. If so, Yingling did not find out about the Iraqi Dinar online. I'm a latecomer to Mock. Have ANY of you been aware of the Dinar prior to it being introduced as evidence at trail?

After hearing all the evidence, I would like to float another theory; Alex Cousino is the only common thread between Sam/Cam, Johnny/Lisa AND Maytee. Could Alex and/or Maytee have set the whole thing up to rob the "safe," and planned the torture to take place in the basement? For whatever reason, maybe too tough of a struggle, they used the kitchen because that's where they were able to subdue Johnny. It's even plausible to me that Alex would have taken a cigarette but from either Sam or Cameo's house with the intent to frame them. If Yingling was coached by Alex or Maytee he would have been given their planned story as opposed to what actually happened, peppered with other facts that were either made public or shared with families of the victims. If the Dinar were not made public, I would have to believe Yingling must have learned of the from someone who was there. But not necessarily Sam.

Having said that, there is no doubt in my mind after hearing the jail phone call between Sam and Steve Pettawy which (because Sam used another inmates PIN to dial out), he assumed would never be traced to him. The other calls, where he professes his innocence, I believe were only played in court so that jurors could easily tell that it was Sam's voice on the phone. A fact corroborated Cam's babymama.

Sam and Cam are guilty. No question in my mind whatsoever after it in Sam's own words. But Yingling's testimony raises questions about who else was involved. Mention of the basement is particularly damning for Maytee. I hope investigators are exploring any possible connection between Yingling and the other players, especially Maytee and Alex.

Trying now to remember other questions raised here and will post what I learned in court relative to those questions as I recall them. As I think you all know, Williams case is with the jury now, and Pettaway's will be by the end of the day.

I seem to remember the foreign currency info being out there. Because it was so odd to most people.

[NightOwl]

"Just Me" was in the courtroom today and will post what took place when she gets home. She said that Judge Bates acquitted Pettaway.
They won't be able to try him again for murder due to Double Jeopardy. This whole disgusting, dirty case makes me sick!

Great news I'm thrilled Justme got in courtroom!

[pplrcrazy]

I'm glad the jury had the williams case, that means they haven't a clue what happened and hopefully they will find his ass guilty

[Adub]

So was it a dismissal or an aquittal? The news is fucked up.

RULE 29. Motion for Acquittal
(A) Motion for judgment of acquittal. The court on motion of a defendant or on its own motion, after the evidence on either side is closed, shall order the entry of a judgment of acquittal of one or more offenses charged in the indictment, information, or complaint, if the evidence is insufficient to sustain a conviction of such offense or offenses. The court may not reserve ruling on a motion for judgment of acquittal made at the close of the state's case.

[justme]

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! I was there alright. Let me get my composure and I will write but it's true----he was aquitted

[NightOwl]

probably a weapon or drug shit Owl.

Which begs the question: If they could get a warrant for his arrest for murder, why didn't they have a search warrant for his house at the same time?

Great point! he was arrested 22^nd Sept., 2011 & the bloody phone call took place 25^th Sept., 2011. What was in the drawer he was so worried about?
Cheated on Pin no's didn't catch this right away. Stinking thugs

[NightOwl]

probably a weapon or drug shit Owl.

Which begs the question: If they could get a warrant for his arrest for murder, why didn't they have a search warrant for his house at the same time?

They searched Starla's house. Found nothing.

Well I'm thinking it was at Cameo's house not Starla's that's why he told Steven Pettaway to get rid of the stuff, maybe Starla knew nothing about that night.

[JustSayin...]

The judge granted motion for acquittal.

....don't think they should have brought this to trial -- cameo's cell phone records/tower information was exculpatory -- shows he wasn't in that area during the time of the murders.

doesn't mean they didn't give their phones to their hoes and make them use them so it seemed like they weren't there... Or like I said, they better check on lisas ex or someone in johnnys family!

Anyone knows not to take your phone. Sounds like the pattern of usage during the time the crime was being committed was VERY unusual. i.e. They left the phones with girlfriends or someone.

[imsuchawildflower]

Fuck! Pettaway just released! Defense granted a motion for acquittal!

I got alot more emotionally involved in this case than I thought....
Im crying...damn the justice system...They completely let Johnny
and Lisa down...Im heartbroken for their parents...completely.

[RaisingAPrince]

I got alot more emotionally involved in this case than I thought....
Im crying...damn the justice system...They completely let Johnny
and Lisa down...Im heartbroken for their parents...completely.

I feel for their parents as well, however if I had been on that jury I would not have been able to convict him with the evidence presented.

[Duchess]

Didn't ANY of you see this coming?