A thread critical of LE (cops & prosecutors)

[AriGold]

And what does that charge bring? Probably a fine instead of the severe punishment that he deserves. Prolly still has his "federal officer" job, too.

Bastard.
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They found him guilty on both counts–animal cruelty and unlawful discharge of a weapon. He was sentenced to a year of unsupervised probation, 80 hours of community service, and a total of $1500 in fines ($500 for the animal cruelty and $1000 on the gun charge).

[shitstorm]

Kid with broken back "refused to comply", got tased 19 times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnI_xM5uj...re=related

[shitstorm]

SWAT teams are part of the militarization of police. NEVER should be they utilized for anything other than some extremely dangerous situation like rescuing hostages or going into some place with heavily armed and dangerous criminals.

This crap really took after Waco and Ruby Ridge - two instances where people got slaughtered. In those cases it wasn't police but military and the FBI & ATF. I know I felt safer when Vicki Weaver got shot while holding her baby. Or when Janet Reno decided to burn the children to death to save them.

[shitstorm]

Tampa, Florida - The Hillsborough Co. Sheriff's Office held a press conference at 10:30am regarding the deputy who can be seen on video dumping a man in a wheelchair onto the ground.

They've announced that Deputy Charlette Jones has been relieved of her duties without pay pending the outcome of an investigation. She has not officially been terminated.

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/ar...ryid=73747

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYMKyJRAabE


He's lucky they didn't murder his dog

[AriGold]

SWAT teams are part of the militarization of police. NEVER should be they utilized for anything other than some extremely dangerous situation like rescuing hostages or going into some place with heavily armed and dangerous criminals.

This crap really took after Waco and Ruby Ridge - two instances where people got slaughtered. In those cases it wasn't police but military and the FBI & ATF. I know I felt safer when Vicki Weaver got shot while holding her baby. Or when Janet Reno decided to burn the children to death to save them.

http://www.justiceforsal.com/

[Duchess]

It's easier to read of people being murdered.

I love & care for my animals more than I do most people & I'd want someone to die if they did that to my beloved pet.

[AriGold]

It's easier to read of people being murdered.

I love & care for my animals more than I do most people & I'd want someone to die if they did that to my beloved pet.

Ditto.

[shitstorm]

SWAT teams are part of the militarization of police. NEVER should be they utilized for anything other than some extremely dangerous situation like rescuing hostages or going into some place with heavily armed and dangerous criminals.

This crap really took after Waco and Ruby Ridge - two instances where people got slaughtered. In those cases it wasn't police but military and the FBI & ATF. I know I felt safer when Vicki Weaver got shot while holding her baby. Or when Janet Reno decided to burn the children to death to save them.

http://www.justiceforsal.com/

I'll read all of those entries tomorrow.

This site is dedicated to the memory of our beloved son of 37 years, Dr. Salvatore J. Culosi. Sal was unjustly shot and killed by a member of the Fairfax County, VA police SWAT team on January 24, 2006. Sal was under investigation by Fairfax County police for supposedly taking sports bets. Police sent a fully-armed, paramilitary SWAT team to his home to serve a documents search warrant and killed him with a .45 Heckler & Koch handgun – a powerful weapon typically used by U.S. military forces in combat. Sal was alone, unarmed and cooperative outside his home - in plain view when he was shot and killed. He had no criminal history and did not own a weapon.

Jesus.

[notsure]

cop shoots unarmed man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY18yYgUR3s

swat cop shoots unarmed woman and child

LIMA, Ohio — The air of Southside is foul-smelling and thick, filled with fumes from an oil refinery and diesel smoke from a train yard, with talk of riot and recrimination, and with angry questions: Why is Tarika Wilson dead? Why did the police shoot her baby?

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Residents of Lima, Ohio, posted a sign at the house where Ms. Wilson, 26, was killed and her 14-month-old son was injured.
“This thing just stinks to high heaven, and the police know it,” said Jason Upthegrove, president of the Lima chapter of the N.A.A.C.P. “We’re not asking for answers anymore. We’re demanding them.”

Some facts are known. A SWAT team arrived at Ms. Wilson’s rented house in the Southside neighborhood early in the evening of Jan. 4 to arrest her companion, Anthony Terry, on suspicion of drug dealing, said Greg Garlock, Lima’s police chief. Officers bashed in the front door and entered with guns drawn, said neighbors who saw the raid.

Moments later, the police opened fire, killing Ms. Wilson, 26, and wounding her 14-month-old son, Sincere, Chief Garlock said. One officer involved in the raid, Sgt. Joseph Chavalia, a 31-year veteran, has been placed on paid administrative leave.

Beyond these scant certainties, there is mostly rumor and rage. The police refuse to give any account of the raid, pending an investigation by the Ohio attorney general.

Black people in Lima, from the poorest citizens to religious and business leaders, complain that rogue police officers regularly stop them without cause, point guns in their faces, curse them and physically abuse them. They say the shooting of Ms. Wilson is only the latest example of a long-running pattern of a few white police officers treating African-Americans as people to be feared.

“There is an evil in this town,” said C. M. Manley, 68, pastor of New Morning Star Missionary Baptist Church. “The police harass me. They harass my family. But they know that if something happens to me, people will burn down this town.”

Internal investigations have uncovered no evidence of police misconduct, Chief Garlock said. Still, local officials recognize that the perception of systemic racism has opened a wide chasm.

“The situation is very tense,” Mayor David J. Berger said. “Serious threats have been made. People are starting to carry weapons to protect themselves.”

Surrounded by farm country known for its German Catholic roots and conservative politics, Lima is the only city in the immediate area with a significant African-American population. Black families, including Mr. Manley’s, came to Lima in the 1940s and ’50s for jobs at what is now the Husky Energy Lima Refinery and other factories along the city’s southern border. Blacks make up 27 percent of the city’s 38,000 people, Mr. Berger said.

Many blacks still live downwind from the refinery. Many whites on the police force commute from nearby farm towns, where a black face is about as common as a twisty road. Of Lima’s 77 police officers, two are African-American.

“If I have any frustration when I retire, it’ll be that I wasn’t able to bring more racial balance to the police force,” said Chief Garlock, who joined the force in 1971 and has been chief for 11 years.

Tarika Wilson had six children, ages 8 to 1. They were fathered by five men, all of whom dealt drugs, said Darla Jennings, Ms. Wilson’s mother. But Ms. Wilson never took drugs nor allowed them to be sold from her house, said Tania Wilson, her sister.

“She took great care of those kids, without much help from the fathers, and the community respected her for that,” said Ms. Wilson’s uncle, John Austin.

Tarika Wilson’s companion, Mr. Terry, was the subject of a long-term drug investigation, Chief Garlock said, but Ms. Wilson was never a suspect.

During the raid, Ms. Wilson’s youngest son, Sincere, was shot in the left shoulder and hand. Three weeks after the shooting, he remains in fair condition, said a spokeswoman at Nationwide Children’s Hospital in Columbus.

Within minutes of the shooting, at around 8 p.m., 50 people gathered outside Ms. Wilson’s home and shouted obscenities at the police, neighbors said. The next day, 300 people gathered at the house and marched two miles to City Hall.

Many protesters believe they saw snipers atop police headquarters. The men on the roof were actually photographers, Chief Garlock said.

“The police can say whatever they want,” Tania Wilson said. “Even before they shot my sister, I didn’t trust them.”

Smaller marches have continued every week since the shooting. The N.A.A.C.P. will hold a public meeting on Saturday to air complaints about police brutality. The group will soon request that the Department of Justice investigate the police department and the Allen County prosecutor’s office, Mr. Upthegrove said.

Junior Cook was a neighbor of Tarika Wilson. He says that he watched from his front porch as the SWAT team raced across his front yard, and that seconds later he watched a police officer run from Ms. Wilson’s house carrying a bleeding baby in a blanket.

[AriGold]

cop shoots unarmed man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY18yYgUR3s

swat cop shoots unarmed woman and child

LIMA, Ohio — The air of Southside is foul-smelling and thick, filled with fumes from an oil refinery and diesel smoke from a train yard, with talk of riot and recrimination, and with angry questions: Why is Tarika Wilson dead? Why did the police shoot her baby?

Skip to next paragraph

Tarika Wilson

Enlarge This Image

J. D. Pooley for The New York Times
Residents of Lima, Ohio, posted a sign at the house where Ms. Wilson, 26, was killed and her 14-month-old son was injured.
“This thing just stinks to high heaven, and the police know it,” said Jason Upthegrove, president of the Lima chapter of the N.A.A.C.P. “We’re not asking for answers anymore. We’re demanding them.”

Some facts are known. A SWAT team arrived at Ms. Wilson’s rented house in the Southside neighborhood early in the evening of Jan. 4 to arrest her companion, Anthony Terry, on suspicion of drug dealing, said Greg Garlock, Lima’s police chief. Officers bashed in the front door and entered with guns drawn, said neighbors who saw the raid.

Moments later, the police opened fire, killing Ms. Wilson, 26, and wounding her 14-month-old son, Sincere, Chief Garlock said. One officer involved in the raid, Sgt. Joseph Chavalia, a 31-year veteran, has been placed on paid administrative leave.

Beyond these scant certainties, there is mostly rumor and rage. The police refuse to give any account of the raid, pending an investigation by the Ohio attorney general.

Black people in Lima, from the poorest citizens to religious and business leaders, complain that rogue police officers regularly stop them without cause, point guns in their faces, curse them and physically abuse them. They say the shooting of Ms. Wilson is only the latest example of a long-running pattern of a few white police officers treating African-Americans as people to be feared.

“There is an evil in this town,” said C. M. Manley, 68, pastor of New Morning Star Missionary Baptist Church. “The police harass me. They harass my family. But they know that if something happens to me, people will burn down this town.”

Internal investigations have uncovered no evidence of police misconduct, Chief Garlock said. Still, local officials recognize that the perception of systemic racism has opened a wide chasm.

“The situation is very tense,” Mayor David J. Berger said. “Serious threats have been made. People are starting to carry weapons to protect themselves.”

Surrounded by farm country known for its German Catholic roots and conservative politics, Lima is the only city in the immediate area with a significant African-American population. Black families, including Mr. Manley’s, came to Lima in the 1940s and ’50s for jobs at what is now the Husky Energy Lima Refinery and other factories along the city’s southern border. Blacks make up 27 percent of the city’s 38,000 people, Mr. Berger said.

Many blacks still live downwind from the refinery. Many whites on the police force commute from nearby farm towns, where a black face is about as common as a twisty road. Of Lima’s 77 police officers, two are African-American.

“If I have any frustration when I retire, it’ll be that I wasn’t able to bring more racial balance to the police force,” said Chief Garlock, who joined the force in 1971 and has been chief for 11 years.

Tarika Wilson had six children, ages 8 to 1. They were fathered by five men, all of whom dealt drugs, said Darla Jennings, Ms. Wilson’s mother. But Ms. Wilson never took drugs nor allowed them to be sold from her house, said Tania Wilson, her sister.

“She took great care of those kids, without much help from the fathers, and the community respected her for that,” said Ms. Wilson’s uncle, John Austin.

Tarika Wilson’s companion, Mr. Terry, was the subject of a long-term drug investigation, Chief Garlock said, but Ms. Wilson was never a suspect.

During the raid, Ms. Wilson’s youngest son, Sincere, was shot in the left shoulder and hand. Three weeks after the shooting, he remains in fair condition, said a spokeswoman at Nationwide Children’s Hospital in Columbus.

Within minutes of the shooting, at around 8 p.m., 50 people gathered outside Ms. Wilson’s home and shouted obscenities at the police, neighbors said. The next day, 300 people gathered at the house and marched two miles to City Hall.

Many protesters believe they saw snipers atop police headquarters. The men on the roof were actually photographers, Chief Garlock said.

“The police can say whatever they want,” Tania Wilson said. “Even before they shot my sister, I didn’t trust them.”

Smaller marches have continued every week since the shooting. The N.A.A.C.P. will hold a public meeting on Saturday to air complaints about police brutality. The group will soon request that the Department of Justice investigate the police department and the Allen County prosecutor’s office, Mr. Upthegrove said.

Junior Cook was a neighbor of Tarika Wilson. He says that he watched from his front porch as the SWAT team raced across his front yard, and that seconds later he watched a police officer run from Ms. Wilson’s house carrying a bleeding baby in a blanket.

Fucking Ohio.

Is there ANYTHING good about this state?

[notsure]

Get some training in target acquisition you fucks. jesus christ. B4 I went to college I served in an army infantry special ops unit, and if I fucked up like these dudes I would be breaking big rocks into little rocks at levenworth (spelling). fucking cowboy bullshit. If you can avoid kicking down the door, avoid it! If the perp comes and goes, pick him up in the fuckin drive way. not rocket science. then search the house with most of the danger eliminated. And now to make things worse home invasion perps are dressing like cops and doing a knock and announce so people comply. Who can you trust?

There will be a point where society will continue to breach it's social contract with the individual to such a degree that the individual will be forced to take action to survive. We are already seeing this in the inner cities across america.

[AriGold]

Get some training in target acquisition you fucks. jesus christ. B4 I went to college I served in an army infantry special ops unit, and if I fucked up like these dudes I would be breaking big rocks into little rocks at levenworth (spelling). fucking cowboy bullshit. If you can avoid kicking down the door, avoid it! If the perp comes and goes, pick him up in the fuckin drive way. not rocket science. then search the house with most of the danger eliminated. And now to make things worse home invasion perps are dressing like cops and doing a knock and announce so people comply. Who can you trust?

There will be a point where society will continue to breach it's social contract with the individual to such a degree that the individual will be forced to take action to survive. We are already seeing this in the inner cities across america.

I agree.

I wonder how many times a homeowner has shot or shot at an entry team serving a no-knock warrant, 'cause they didn't realize it was the police.

I said it before, this isn't so much an issue as "bad cops" as it is bad leadership and dept mismanagement.

[Cynical Ninja]

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It's easier to read of people being murdered.

What a completely fucking retarded point of view.

If I ever see an eighteen wheeler jack knifing down a freeway and you and a dog are in harms way I'll keep your viewpoint in mind and save the fucking dog okay?

[FutileResistance1]

I have heard they kill the dogs first as a rule.

Idiot

[Duchess]

I don't give a flying fuck about people I don't know. I think more of my animals than I do most people. I'd run into a burning barn to save my horses, fuck all if I'd do that for any twat.

[FutileResistance1]

I don't give a flying fuck about people I don't know. I think more of my animals than I do most people. I'd run into a burning barn to save my horses, fuck all if I'd do that for any twat.

LOL, I feel ya Duchess on the "pets" part!

[FutileResistance1]

I also want to add, right here - I KNOW THAT COPS ARE GUNNED DOWN DOING THEIR JOBS. We are not talking about good cops here. We're talking about sadistic psychos and bullies who hide behind their badges and departments. They are a danger to society, just as much as any gang banger - worse, in fact, because I'm not crossing paths with any gang bangers but I COULD cross paths with one of these cops.

Glad you clarified!
There are many assholes on the force, but the good guys outnumber the morons who should not be wearing the uniform. What puzzles me!?! Is how the administration in most departments allow these kind of morons to continually work without heavy consequences and make good officers look bad. Uhg!

[Cynical Ninja]

I don't give a flying fuck about people I don't know. I think more of my animals than I do most people. I'd run into a burning barn to save my horses, fuck all if I'd do that for any twat.

You are talking out of your arsehole.

"It's easier to hear about the death of people" duchess said as she took a bite from a turkey leg.

HYPOCRISY IS A BITCH!

It seems its easier to hear about the death fd a person than an animal unless you are fucking eating the flesh of that animal of course!

If you were born in Paris instead of the US you would probably be eating horseys as well as riding them dumbass.

[Duchess]

You are talking out of your arsehole.

If you were born in Paris instead of the US you would probably be eating horseys as well as riding them dumbass.

No, I'm not. Read my font, I don't give a fuck about people I don't know, I have no feelings of care or regard. Who gives a fuck? I think most people reap what they sow & chances are they deserve whatever they get, take that anyway you want, good or bad.

No, OP, even if I lived in Paris I would not be eating horse.

[Cynical Ninja]

I don't give a fuck about people I don't know.

So when you see a natural disaster on the news you have no sympathy or empathy for the human victims? when the twin towers went down you didn't give a fuck?

And don't turn around and say "thats different" because you just stated you don't give a fuck about people you don't know, right?