(03-11-2011, 09:31 PM)username Wrote: Strange. A forum like Mock that doesn't seem to have a strong religious contingent. I would expect to see the born-again Christians and Mormons better represented here.
I actually don't think religion is all bad. Yeah, it causes a lot of pesky wars and inquisitions and stuff but look at the Christian Children's fund. For $28/month, you too can own a small child.
Those lying assclowns don't send you an actual kid. Just some stupid note written by sweatshop workers with a gun to their head and a blue crayon in their hand.
And I was looking forward to the help, too.
But will you eat the red crayon or the blue one?
Blue. There's no telling where the red one has been.
(03-11-2011, 08:32 PM)Cracker Wrote: I hate all religions that knock on my door or try to collect money from me. If your religion isn't self-supporting, it is a dumb religion.
That people still tithe seems stupid to me. Either you are trying to buy your way into heaven, or you are paying for a bigger church building and more porn for your pastor/father/preacher/man at the front.
The funniest thing about religion is that people will believe any fucking thing. Amazes me. I remember sitting in chuch when I was very young thinking, "There is no way." I never had many illusions regarding religion.
I agree with you 100%.
I am no doubt as stunned as you are,
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
(03-11-2011, 08:32 PM)Cracker Wrote: I hate all religions that knock on my door or try to collect money from me. If your religion isn't self-supporting, it is a dumb religion.
That people still tithe seems stupid to me. Either you are trying to buy your way into heaven, or you are paying for a bigger church building and more porn for your pastor/father/preacher/man at the front.
The funniest thing about religion is that people will believe any fucking thing. Amazes me. I remember sitting in chuch when I was very young thinking, "There is no way." I never had many illusions regarding religion.
I agree with you 100%.
I am no doubt as stunned as you are,
there are no atheists in the fox holes.
Interestingly enough, england treats their royal family as God, the ceremony surrounding the queen exhibits it quite nicely.
Last night I made a grilled cheese sandwich, it had the image of the virgin mary on it, at first I thought about selling it on ebay, but I was hungry and didn't want to make another one, so I ate it.
besides what if the next one had an image of christ or the queen on it or something ? then I would have been completely screwed and still hungry.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
(03-12-2011, 01:50 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: I don't go to church. I have tried and I don't think I fit in there. I watch Joel Osteen on christian channel.
So the boob tube is beaming that shit directly into your neo cortex?
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
(03-12-2011, 01:50 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: I don't go to church. I have tried and I don't think I fit in there. I watch Joel Osteen on christian channel.
So the boob tube is beaming that shit directly into your neo cortex?
Hilmarton, England (CNN) - A little English village church has just made a remarkable discovery.
The ornate old Bible that had been sitting in plain view on a table near the last row of pews for longer than anyone could remember is an original King James Bible - one of perhaps 200 surviving 400-year-old original editions of arguably the most important book ever printed in English.
In fact, the Bible at St. Laurence Church in Hilmarton, England, was sitting right under a hand-lettered sign saying it was an original.
The sign said it had been found in "the parish chest" in 1857, that the cover had been added, and that it was the second of the two impressions published in 1611 - the year of first publication.
But no one knew whether to believe it, parish council member Geoff Procter said. As the anniversary of publication in 1611 approached, they decided it was worth investigating.
"We had no way of knowing whether it really was a 1611 Bible so we had to get it verified somehow," he said.
He and two other church members took it to a specialist, the Rev. David Smith at the Museum of the Book in London.
Smith knew immediately what he was looking at, Procter said.
"We put it on his table and he opened it and immediately he said, 'Yes, this is a 1611 Bible,'" Procter remembered.
Smith identified it thanks to a printing error - a place in the Gospel of Matthew that should say Jesus entered the Garden of Gethsemane and spoke to his disciples instead says that Judas, who betrayed Jesus to the Romans, entered the garden.
That the St. Laurence Bible had that error, but not another one in the Book of Ruth, enabled Smith to pinpoint exactly when the book had been printed, Procter explained.
"We realized that this is quite an important find," he said, and last month the church quietly announced the discovery in the diocese newsletter.
They hesitated before going public, Procter said.
"It was one of those discoveries that we wondered if we should tell everybody or tell nobody," he said. "And we thought that as it was the 400th anniversary, we should talk about it."
St. Laurence Church is far from the only one talking about the King James Bible this year - the Globe Theatre in London is planning a reading of the whole thing in the days before Easter, and a literary festival has already done one. Cambridge University has an exhibition, and the King James Bible Trust lists dozens of special events planned this year to mark the anniversary.
The reason is simple, said Moira Goff of the British Library.
The King James Bible is "so embedded in us that we can't overstate the significance of it," she said.
It's the source of dozens of phrases and concepts that have become part of the English language - "an eye for an eye," "born again," "eat, drink and be merry," "God forbid."
Without the believe of reincarnation the whole traffic in Bali would be a totally different story.
This way they all drive like no matter what happens, they'll be back tomorrow anyway. You take that away from them and it would surely have disastrous effects.
You must be Catholic. They are the funniest of the Christians.
Worse. My parents were southern baptist, and I went to catholic school. My roomate was Jewish. Talk about hilarity ensuing...
I actually prefer Episcopal churches. Catholic light. All the ceremony but half the guilt.
I agree!!! Also, Religious beliefs should not be forced upon a person. I believe we learn about spirituality as we go through life and grow as a person. Just because we see things differently does not mean that one is better than the other, or that we are damned to go to hell I teach my children that they can pray anywhere, that God listens and does not send around a tray for money and YELL what you BETTER FEEL AND BELIEVE
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
I try to be really non-confrontational about religion because people are entitled to believe what they want--they're just wrong.
To me, it comes down to the question of logic versus believing that the 'Lord of the Rings' actually happened. That's how far-fetched religion is. It may as well involve dragons, orcs and shit.
It has no basis in reality.
All too often, those who believe in religion, use it as a crutch to make themselves feel better about their position in life. Whether it's to pick themselves up after murdering somebody and ruining their life or they're on their deathbed and need to feel comfortable about what's on "the other side," it's there to fill that spot in their brain that can't comprehend something.
They suddenly "find" religion...
This is why religion is so prominent in prisons, drug rehab centers, and in the mind of the Vietnamese prostitute lying in my bed the morning after (I get the overnight prostitutes; that's right I'm a big spender, beeeotches)
I'm not saying finding religion in these situations is bad, if it helps somebody be a better person, that's great, but what I'm saying is that people shouldn't need to be told not to be a shitty person and whether or not they believe in Allah or God or Vishnu or Zeus or whatever else -- they're still going to die and they're still going to the same nothingness that everybody goes to.
Religion is not a get-out-of-jail-free card.
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw
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I teach my children that they can pray anywhere, that God listens and does not send around a tray for money and YELL what you BETTER FEEL AND BELIEVE
