Der Spiegel publishes U.S. soldier "kill team" warning-graphic

[BlueTiki]

Actually, it was our gov't that trained them in asymetrical warfare and resurrected jihad for the purpose of providing the Soviets their "Vietnam", and it worked like a charm. So quit whining.

And Brzezinski bragged about it

The US trained "them" in asymmetric warfare?

In the purest and most simple sense, asymmetric warfare is an imbalance of strength, weapons or tactics between opposing forces.

So . . . how did the US teach "imbalance" to the Afghans?

[shitstorm]

@ rothschild - I remember when the Mujahadeen were "freedom fighters".

[rothschild]

And Brzezinski bragged about it

I wonder how many people here know who it was that built the Gorky plant in the Soviet Union, and it's significance re the Vietnam war? Or who it was that provided them the aluminum tubes and heavy water, among other things, needed for their nuclear program?

[shitstorm]

And Brzezinski bragged about it

I wonder how many people here know who it was that built the Gorky plant in the Soviet Union, and it's significance re the Vietnam war? Or who it was that provided them the aluminum tubes and heavy water, among other things, needed for their nuclear program?

Please elaborate

[shitstorm]

@ Blue Tiki - Here's a link on that term. I'd never heard it before but just assumed it was teaching the tribal locals, and Arabs who came to Afghanistan, how to fight the USSR.

http://www.defencejournal.com/2002/febru...rorism.htm

[rothschild]

The US trained "them" in asymmetric warfare?

In the purest and most simple sense, asymmetric warfare is an imbalance of strength, weapons or tactics between opposing forces.

So . . . how did the US teach "imbalance" to the Afghans?

Simple to the point of being absurd.

Asymetrical warfare relates to tactics employed to offset military superiority.

[BlueTiki]

The US trained "them" in asymmetric warfare?

In the purest and most simple sense, asymmetric warfare is an imbalance of strength, weapons or tactics between opposing forces.

So . . . how did the US teach "imbalance" to the Afghans?

Simple to the point of being absurd.

Asymetrical warfare relates to tactics employed to offset military superiority.

You do use terms loosely. That is arrogance.

From SS's link:

"Terrorism, guerilla warfare and wars between unequals now called asymmetric warfare is not something new. These are a part of human history."

You lack basic critical thinking skills. Asymmetric warfare exists with or without outside intervention.

I believe what you meant to state, and correctly so, is that the US provided support and tactical strategies to exploit their obvious lack of military superiority to achieve victory.

Support and tactics do not equal asymmetric warfare. Imbalance equals asymmetric warfare.

Simple.

[rothschild]

And Brzezinski bragged about it

I wonder how many people here know who it was that built the Gorky plant in the Soviet Union, and it's significance re the Vietnam war? Or who it was that provided them the aluminum tubes and heavy water, among other things, needed for their nuclear program?

Please elaborate

A patriot in the truest sense of the word. And being a Hoover Institute scholar, he had access to god knows how many tons of gov't documents.

If you love your country, this will be the best spent 40 minutes of your life.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...9954264539#

[shitstorm]

And Brzezinski bragged about it

I wonder how many people here know who it was that built the Gorky plant in the Soviet Union, and it's significance re the Vietnam war? Or who it was that provided them the aluminum tubes and heavy water, among other things, needed for their nuclear program?

Please elaborate

A patriot in the truest sense of the word. And being a Hoover Institute scholar, he had access to god knows how many tons of gov't documents.

If you love your country, this will be the best spent 40 minutes of your life.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...9954264539#

Thanks! I'll watch it. I know who he was and I've seen a few of his vids, though many years ago. He was an amazing man.

[Cynical Ninja]

I guess we need a 9-11 thread

Bldg 7 had minimal damaged (pictures of smoke don't show jack)

So start one then, you pitch me your conspiracy theories and I will hit each one for a home run.

As you see in this photo the whole of the facade of the rear of building 7 is on fire (no smoke without fire dumbass).

[rothschild]

The US trained "them" in asymmetric warfare?

In the purest and most simple sense, asymmetric warfare is an imbalance of strength, weapons or tactics between opposing forces.

So . . . how did the US teach "imbalance" to the Afghans?

Simple to the point of being absurd.

Asymetrical warfare relates to tactics employed to offset military superiority.

You do use terms loosely. That is arrogance.

From SS's link:

"Terrorism, guerilla warfare and wars between unequals now called asymmetric warfare is not something new. These are a part of human history."

You lack basic critical thinking skills. Asymmetric warfare exists with or without outside intervention.

I believe what you meant to state, and correctly so, is that the US provided support and tactical strategies to exploit their obvious lack of military superiority to achieve victory.

Support and tactics do not equal asymmetrical warfare. Imbalance equals asymmetrical warfare.

Simple.

This may come as a shock to you, Tiki, but words frequently have more than one usage, which is dictated by the manner in which they are used.

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Zbigniew Brzezinski:
How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76*

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

Brzezinski: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.


http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html



People who believe the "official story" of history really need to pay attention to what he said. That doesn't just apply in this case but to just every major event involving government, including 9-11. There is the official story and there is the TRUTH.

[BlueTiki]

This may come as a shock to you, Tiki, but words frequently have more than one usage, which is dictated by the manner in which they are used.

And Norm Crosby made a fortune by exploiting this fact.

Sorry . . . you ain't no Bill Buckley.

[rothschild]

So start one then, you pitch me your conspiracy theories and I will hit each one for a home run.

As you see in this photo the whole of the facade of the rear of building 7 is on fire (no smoke without fire dumbass).

It's not a "conspiracy theory" that NIST can't provide a scientifically credible explanation for the collapse of WTC 7. It's a fact.

[rothschild]

And Norm Crosby made a fortune by exploiting this fact.

Sorry . . . you ain't no Bill Buckley.

Buckley wouldn't have made the laughable claim that "training in asymmetrical warfare" is improper usage.

[Duchess]

So...what do some people THINK happened. I normally keep moving right on by when I come across these types of conversations regarding 9/11. What exactly are a couple of you saying without saying. Spit it out.

[Cynical Ninja]

So...what do some people THINK happened. I normally keep moving right on by when I come across these types of conversations regarding 9/11. What exactly are a couple of you saying without saying. Spit it out.

Fundamentallist Muslim extremists hijacked airplanes and deliberately crashed them into buildings some of which collapsed as a result.

Erm.....that's it.

[rothschild]

So...what do some people THINK happened. I normally keep moving right on by when I come across these types of conversations regarding 9/11. What exactly are a couple of you saying without saying. Spit it out.

I don't pretend to "know" what happened. Do you?

[Duchess]

Fundamentallist Muslim extremists hijacked airplanes and deliberately crashed them into buildings some of which collapsed as a result.

Hey! I agree with you. I want the others participating in this thread that are implying something different to say precisely what they mean. I want to read their theory.

[Cynical Ninja]

It's not a "conspiracy theory" that NIST can't provide a scientifically credible explanation for the collapse of WTC 7. It's a fact.

Three things brought down building seven, structural damage, fire and gravity.

What do you think caused it to collapse? controlled demolition?, it takes weeks to set up demolition charges to bring down a building the size of WTC 7.