Children Who Kill

[Duchess]

First graders. Isn't that like 6-7 years old?

[HairOfTheDog]

First graders. Isn't that like 6-7 years old?

Yeah, it was a group of three six-year-olds planning to kill their six-year-old classmate. I hope they didn't have a true understanding of how death is permanent and their parents can set them straight.

[Maggot]

When I was in 2^nd grade we wanted to light the monsignors car on fire because he always yelled at us in the cafeteria when we got to loud. We almost did it with a road flare but he came out and chased us away. He knew who we were though and he whipped our asses the next day.

[Duchess]

How do kids who are little more than babies come up with this shit. It's horrible to know their little minds would even consider such a thing as an option.

[Maggot]

Kids have no empathy its all them they like puppies though. dangerous little bastards they are. Ever seen one go up to the other and whack them with a bat or rock or something. Or push them off the monkey bars.

[sally]

I've seen them in action and my first thought is always that the parents are assholes who failed miserably.

So my kids are perfect you ask. No, but they've never acted like retarded monkeys.

[Blindgreed1]

When I was in 2^nd grade we wanted to light the monsignors car on fire because he always yelled at us in the cafeteria when we got to loud. We almost did it with a road flare but he came out and chased us away. He knew who we were though and he whipped our asses the next day.

Can't do that nowadays.

[Maggot]

When I was in 2^nd grade we wanted to light the monsignors car on fire because he always yelled at us in the cafeteria when we got to loud. We almost did it with a road flare but he came out and chased us away. He knew who we were though and he whipped our asses the next day.

Can't do that nowadays.

Ya think? Once when I was about 12 me and another guy would break into the mill furniture factory ( it was a window that wasn't locked) we did that for awhile then got bored and figured out how to pack sawdust and wax into a beer can, poke a hole in the bottom and light the top creating a smoke bomb. I'm tellin ya kids are creative and with the internet its like a school for dipshits now.We learned it from a drunk vet.

[HairOfTheDog]

I think if I'd been your pesky little sister, I'd have been sleeping with one eye open Mags.

[Blindgreed1]

When I was in 2^nd grade we wanted to light the monsignors car on fire because he always yelled at us in the cafeteria when we got to loud. We almost did it with a road flare but he came out and chased us away. He knew who we were though and he whipped our asses the next day.

Can't do that nowadays.

Ya think? Once when I was about 12 me and another guy would break into the mill furniture factory ( it was a window that wasn't locked) we did that for awhile then got bored and figured out how to pack sawdust and wax into a beer can, poke a hole in the bottom and light the top creating a smoke bomb. I'm tellin ya kids are creative and with the internet its like a school for dipshits now.We learned it from a drunk vet.

Don't get me started.

[Maggot]

I think if I'd been your pesky little sister, I'd have been sleeping with one eye open Mags.

Ha!..........Me and my brother would get yelled at all the time for leaving her out in the woods alone she was maybe 6 and would tag along with us wayyyyyyy to much. We always had to go out again and find her.

[HairOfTheDog]

PENNSYLVANIA

This is weird and sad...



Jacob Remaley, 14, is described as a religiously devout, straight A, good kid who was very close to his little brother.

He called 911 this morning at 7 a.m. to report that his dad, Iraq Veteran David Remaley -52, put a gun in his (Jacob's) bed before he went to work at the VA center. Jacob said that he got up to find his mother Dana - 46 (a school assistant) and his 8-year-old brother Caleb shot in their beds.

Jacob then took the gun and went out into the street, where a neighbor convinced him to put the gun down when police arrived.

Jacob was taken to the hospital for evaluation and confessed that he took his dad's Ruger .380 handgun and shot to death to his mom and his little brother in their sleep.

Jacob Remaley was charged today, as an adult, with two counts of criminal homicide and third degree murder.

Police are working to establish a motive. His grandma says he is sweet and meek and had recently expressed grief over his parents fighting, his mother being mad at God for her mother's death, and his mother's lack of attendance at church.

Story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...other.html

[HairOfTheDog]

Oregon


Murder scene -- 922 Morton Street, Ashland, Oregon

A 12-year-old Ashland boy who allegedly killed his mother and injured his sister with a chef's knife Tuesday morning is locked up at the Jackson County juvenile detention facility in Medford while a judge considers whether or not he'll be tried as an adult.

The victims were 52-year-old Pamela J. Wolosz and Holmes' sister, who Ashland police chief Tighe O'Meara said is a 16-year-old Ashland High School student. Holmes' sister was transported to Asante Rogue Regional Medical Center in Medford. "She's stabilized and she's expected to recover," O'Meara said.

The boy's father was not home at time of murder, but Pamela's mother was staying there and was unharmed. Police received two 911 calls from family members but declined to say who placed the calls.

Ezekiel "Zeke" Holmes was quickly arrested without incident after five Ashland police officers responded. He entered not-guilty pleas in Jackson County Juvenile Court Wednesday morning on charges of murder, attempted murder and first-degree assault.

Under Oregon law he can be tried in adult court if certain grounds are met, among them: "The youth at the time of the alleged offense was of sufficient sophistication and maturity to appreciate the nature and quality of the conduct involved." Oregon's Measure 11 statute allows children younger than 15 charged with serious crimes, such as murder, to be tried in adult court if decided in a juvenile court hearing.

Deputy district attorney Ruby Herriott said the investigation is ongoing, but if the youth is tried only in Juvenile Court, he would be released from the system by age 25. "One of the goals of the juvenile court is to rehabilitate the youth and hold them accountable," Herriott said. Full story: http://www.dailytidings.com/news/2017011...-to-murder
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No motive known at present. 12 years old, Jesus Christ.

[HairOfTheDog]

Illinois

This is a sad and disturbing case all the way around.

^ Kyle Alwood, 9, was charged this week with five counts of first-degree murder, two counts of arson, and one count of aggravated arson.

He cried as he appeared in court and his attorney had to explain many of the legal terms to him.

Kyle liked to light things on fire.  On April 6^th, he intentionally set his family's trailer home ablaze, killing his two young siblings and a cousin (1 and 2 years old), his great-grandmother, and his stepfather.  

His mom Katrina Alwood, 27, escaped the flames.

(continued)

[HairOfTheDog]

Before being hit with a gag order, she said that Kyle is mentally ill and 'not a monster' and his life shouldn't be thrown away due to one mistake that led to a horrible tragedy.

Her sister Samantha Alwood, who lost her baby daughter Rose in the fire, wants to see her nephew sent to juvenile detention and eventually to prison for his actions. ‘Because at the end of the day, whether he meant to or not, he knew what fire did,’ Samantha said.

However, juvenile offender laws mean that the worst sentence the boy could receive from the bench judge if convicted is probation til the age of 21.  He can not be sent to prison.

The victims:


Rest in peace.

Refs:

 https://www.kmov.com/news/year-old-illin...62e4c.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...tured.html

[Duchess]

Holy shit balls! 9 years old!

[BigMark]

And he wont even get the cinto.

[Duchess]

What he did was very devious. He's so little to be so broken inside. How does a kid get that way? Rhetorical.

[HairOfTheDog]

What he did was very devious. He's so little to be so broken inside. How does a kid get that way? Rhetorical.

Nature or nurture (or a combination)?  It's always a valid question in these kinds of cases.

How it should be handled legally is a tough question to answer as well.

If he can truly and demonstrably be straightened out over a time, that's one thing.

If not, it's disturbing that he will be free in society with no probation (which should be super strict) after the age of 21.

Anyway, I hope court-mandated counseling is the best possible and this kid can be fixed. 

He's currently in the custody of his grandparents.  Hopefully, the conditions for their custody include not having other children in the home.

[Duchess]

I'd be afraid to have him around. I feel a little bad for saying that about a child.