I'll always be the first to say that everyone is entitled to their opinion & I value free speech but this freedom bullshit really has the ability to wind me the hell up. People talk about freedom like it's been lost. Well, tell me what you've lost? Are you being confined? Are you unable to live as you always have? Just what the fuck have you personally lost and want back?
It annoys me too, I just chalk it up to people being brainwashed morons. They're the same people who say every election that they're going to move out of the country if so and so is elected .
(05-13-2011, 12:18 PM)IMaDick Wrote: will your life style continue as it is if the dollar continues to devalue?
will your life style and ability to do what you want when you want remain the same at a 50+ tax rate?
will your ability to do what you want when you want stay the same with 5 or 6.00 a gallon gasoline?
will your ability to do what you want when you want if food prices continue to rise?
you know each of those things are things we have no control over, but the government does, they limit food production, oil reserves, and our tax rate.
you already told us that you have generators and gold for when the shit hits the fan, why would you plan like that if you expected everything to remain the same?
you know duchess, I would like to think that our lives will remain as they are, our parents thought the same thing and their parents before them, talk to your dad about his childhood, and if you can ask about his parents life style and freedom, perhaps by contrast you will find what I'm taking about, with each enlargement of government comes regulation, regulation by definition is a limiting of your rights.
you do not live as free today as your parents did and they did not live as free as their parents did, and our kids won't live as free as we did.
History is plain and simple if a person takes the time to look.
the plans for health care, for taxes on mileage on your travel, the hikes in fuel prices are all designed to limit the people, to decrease our ability to move, and as a result our freedom will be quantified by government regulation.
just like it has been over the last 150 years.
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
will your life style continue as it is if the dollar continues to devalue? Yes
will your life style and ability to do what you want when you want remain the same at a 50+ tax rate? Yes
will your ability to do what you want when you want stay the same with 5 or 6.00 a gallon gasoline? Yes
will your ability to do what you want when you want if food prices continue to rise? Yes
you already told us that you have generators and gold for when the shit hits the fan, why would you plan like that if you expected everything to remain the same? Cowboy is a coin nut..loves gold. Everyone knows I live on a farm, we have to have the generators for water. Cowboy is older than I am, he comes from a generation that plans for every freakin' thing that can go wrong, unlike myself who flies by the seat of my pants.
By one measure, federal taxes lowest since 1950 By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
The Associated Press
Monday, February 7, 2011; 2:07 PM
Taxes too high?
Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.
And for the third straight year, American families and businesses will pay less in federal taxes than they did under former President George W. Bush, thanks to a weak economy and a growing number of tax breaks for the wealthy and poor alike.
(05-13-2011, 12:42 PM)username Wrote: I'd like Tiki's take on this:
By one measure, federal taxes lowest since 1950 By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
The Associated Press
Monday, February 7, 2011; 2:07 PM
Taxes too high?
Actually, as a share of the nation's economy, Uncle Sam's take this year will be the lowest since 1950, when the Korean War was just getting under way.
And for the third straight year, American families and businesses will pay less in federal taxes than they did under former President George W. Bush, thanks to a weak economy and a growing number of tax breaks for the wealthy and poor alike.
sounds like a new tax to me, the politically challenged retards are fucking this country up. listen to what is being said and by who , how fucking hard is that?
and because there is no common sense in the lot of you, here is a simple question.
who is in charge of collecting the funds for the health care bullshit?
could it be the IRS? what is their job? could they be tax collectors?
who wil they be collecting from? just those who make more than 250,000 a year?
jesus christ ,
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
That's a great article about a mileage tax, Dick. Are you so fucking stupid though that you missed this part of it?
The draft proposal was first reported this week in Transportation Weekly, a trade publication. A White House spokeswoman told The Hill newspaper that the draft "does not represent the views of the president” and is in no way an administration proposal.
The White House put the brakes on a similar proposal floated early in Obama's presidency, with then-spokesman Robert Gibbs said that a mileage tax "is not and will not be the policy of the Obama administration."
No I'm not that stupid, are you so stupid that you are forgetting who is the President and that this is once again before congress?
it seems to me that you have a problem with actual information, reasoning it out beyond your blindness, and then reaching a conclusion based on current events.
it was a nice try at deflection though, when it passes it will be obama's bill, no one elses.
if it passes will it be a new tax?
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
Username, it's obama's plan, it doesn't matter what you think, if you don't want to trust the sites I give you then go look in the senate and house records for the discussion.
Jesus, stop talking like an uneducated citizen of the UK.
when it passes will it be a new tax? will obama's words of no new taxes for anyone who makes under 250K a year be true or not?
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams
(05-13-2011, 02:59 PM)IMaDick Wrote: OP, since you don't work and you don't pay taxes what exactly do you think you can add to this conversation other than some uneducated bullshit?
You have to the most retarded fucking person that has ever been released from a mental institution.
A - I pay taxes
B - I work
C - I am far better educated than dick.
D - I am not retarded and I have never been to a mental institution.
In other words.........
We need to punish the French, ignore the Germans and forgive the Russians - Condoleezza Rice.
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