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Should citizens have to pay to educate illegals?
(05-23-2011, 05:10 PM)Cracker Wrote: The feds passed a law saying it was unconstitutional to ask for proof of citizenship from illegals (at public schools).


That's mind blowing. I didn't pay any attention to this kind of thing until one day when someone posted about a lawsuit that a group of illegals was bringing against a farmer. I didn't understand how that could happen if they were illegals. They should have been afraid to be anywhere near a courthouse. I still don't understand how they are able to access our resources, how they are entitled to have everything from an education to health care.


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Goddammit California!!! I saw a tiny article about this in the paper today. I didn't even know they were voting on this subject. WTF!? We're broke, people! Our schools suck. 106


AB 131 makes it through the Assembly
Written by George Gale
Thursday, 02 June 2011 09:32

(Assembly bill would provide financial aid to undocumented students)….The Bill, AB 131, was passed by the Assembly Wednesday on a Bipartisan vote.

The Democrats favored the bill, while the Republicans said it would create an incentive for illegal immigration. The author of the bill, Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, a Los Angeles area Democrat, says his legislation would allow undocumented students become eligible for Cal-Grants, institutional aid and fee waivers at publicly funded colleges. Former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed a similar measure when he was in office.

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Like I said in the other thread.



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(06-02-2011, 02:12 PM)username Wrote: would allow undocumented students become eligible for Cal-Grants, institutional aid and fee waivers at publicly funded colleges.


Oh my God. Why, WHY would that be encouraged?


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Liberal Democrats are all about this type of shit.

we have a community organizer for President.

we have a President who wants the Hispanic 12% of the vote.

and we have a weak ass congress.

It's a receipt for disaster.

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(06-02-2011, 02:26 PM)IMaDick Wrote: we have a President who wants the Hispanic 12% of the vote.

*gasp* We almost agree but I'd say both parties pander to their own special interest groups. But yeah, I blame the liberals for this one. It's interesting that the article states it was a bi-partisan vote. Really? I looked it up and it passed 50 to 27. It just so happens we have 52 Democrats in the Assembly and 28 Republicans. I doubt it was terribly bi-partisan.

One interesting fact, I just read that both the California Assembly and Senate have pretty much been in democratic hands since the 1970's (with like a one year exception in the senate) even though we've switched around between Republican and Democratic Governors. I probably should have known that but I didn't. Anyway, that's it. From now on I'm voting entirely Republican in local and state elections. No wonder we're in such a mess. No fucking balance!
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Since illegal migrants (not immigrants) approve of the "pack 500 into a semi" method of travel, I don't see where it would be offensive or infringing on their 'rights' to box them up and send them back across the border like that. Afterall, they designed the method.
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Washington (CNN) -- The Supreme Court has upheld a California law giving illegal immigrants living there reduced in-state tuition rates at public universities, the same rates legal state residents enjoy.

The justices without comment Monday refused to accept an appeal from out-of-state students attending California schools, who said it was unfair that as U.S. citizens, they had to pay as much as $20,000 more than illegal immigrants. They claimed such "preferential treatment" violated federal law.

The court decision is a victory for immigrant rights groups. California is one of a dozen states that make undocumented aliens conditionally eligible for in-state tuition, according to the legal brief filed by the suing students. Those various laws will remain intact for now.

















































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Just as long as it is just the states residents who pay extra for it, who cares. They deserve everything they get from what they give.
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Just because of the ruling, I wouldn't send a kid of mine (and pay out of state tuition) to Cali, for an education.

Unless they had a full scholarship that covered everything.

And an all you can eat burrito bar.

What's next . . . free housing and car insurance waivers?

This is turning into an "Everything Must Go" sale!
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(06-06-2011, 01:56 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: California is one of a dozen states that make undocumented aliens conditionally eligible for in-state tuition, according to the legal brief filed by the suing students.


That's insane.

It's also insane that those who are here illegally have got the right to sue an American citizen/business/whatever. Where does that make sense that they are given rights? Why does someone who is BREAKING THE LAW have any rights whatsoever? Am I not getting it? I know I'm oblivious to a lot of things, have I missed something?


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Duchess, Please let me know when this stuff starts affecting you OK?

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(06-06-2011, 02:29 PM)Duchess Wrote:
(06-06-2011, 01:56 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: California is one of a dozen states that make undocumented aliens conditionally eligible for in-state tuition, according to the legal brief filed by the suing students.


That's insane.


Why yes. Yes it is. Russian
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Alabama's governor on Thursday signed a tough new illegal immigration crackdown that contains provisions requiring public schools to determine students' immigration status and making it a crime to knowingly give an illegal immigrant a ride.

The bill also allows police to arrest anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant if they're stopped for any other reason. Alabama employers also are now required to use a federal system called E-Verify to determine if new workers are in the country legally.

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You will see this in more and more states that can't afford Mexicans AND hoodrats. If the feds would just pass a law exempting illegal aliens from all forms of aid (welfare, food stamps, education, medicaid) the states wouldn't be feeling the crunch. If you want benefits, register as a guest worker. Easy.

Texas already lost the immigration battle. The immigrant population is too large to enact any real legislation without having half of Texas go bandito. New Mexico has the highest percentage of Hispanics of any state (45%, 44% of the NM Legislature is Hispanic), so you won't see any immigration legislation there, either.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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I use e-verify it has its glitches.
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Tough new state immigration laws are striking fear in the hearts of illegal immigrants with American-born children.

“I worry about my children,” says one father of two young kids in Carrollton, Georgia. He didn't want to give his name, because he has no legal right to reside in the United States. “My kids were born here. What will happen with them? We don’t know, and that’s the fear we have.”

Georgia, like Alabama, Arizona and Utah, recently passed a tough immigration law.

The longer Congress waits to deal with immigration reform, the louder states seem to scream for action. According to the National Conference of Legislatures, an all-time high of 1,538 bills dealing with immigrants and refugees have been introduced in state legislatures this year alone. These measures include things like employment verification requirements for businesses and restrictions on public health services and college access for illegal immigrants. But the most worrisome for many parents are those giving local law enforcement more power to do federal immigration checks.

“Don’t worry!" is a message Atlanta immigration lawyer Charles Kuck gives his clients all day long. He’s one of those challenging the Georgia law’s constitutionality in federal court.

“These laws are bad, and they’re going to have a tremendous effect on the community. But for now we say, ‘Calm down.’ This law is meant to silence people, and we have to at this time not be silenced. We have to be vocal and not shut up.”

But for parents who fear separation from their American children, it’s easier said than done. About 2.5 million families in the U.S. have undocumented immigrant parents and American-born children, according to the Pew Hispanic Center's Jeff Passel.

“I’m planning to move to Miami, where I have some family,” says one undocumented mother of three who lives in Georgia. “But they tell me that the law is also being considered there.”

State lawmakers acknowledge many of these bills are meant to send a message to Washington.

“This problem is never going to be solved completely until the federal government deals with it,” says Georgia Republican State Rep. Matt Ramsey, author of the Georgia immigration bill.

So far, Washington has shown little reaction to states' enacting immigration bills. “The drive for comprehensive immigration reform has shown unsuccessful,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Virginia, told the Atlanta Press Club on May 20.

Two weeks earlier, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told the club only that that she didn’t like a patchwork of states taking on immigration reform.

As federal immigration reform languishes, undocumented immigrant parents of American children gain time. If they can avoid deportation until their firstborn turns 21, that child can apply for his or her parent’s legal status.


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They'll all just end up moving to California.
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Didnt want to start a new thread. Kudos to this Senator. You'd think after living in this country for 20+ years, that you'd have the common sense to use English when testifying in front of a Senate committee. Especially considering the subject matter he was testifying on.

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