Do you think this is shitty or smart?

[aussiefriend]

I think this is a very significant issue raised by Cracker. Because it causes us not just to say 'what would you do?' but it also makes us look at our own personal integrity and value system.

[Cracker]

That is a good point, aussie, and I think most people would be surprised if they applied Kohlberg's reasoning to their own:

Level 1. Preconventional Morality
•Stage 1 - Obedience and Punishment
The earliest stage of moral development is especially common in young children, but adults are also capable of expressing this type of reasoning. At this stage, children see rules as fixed and absolute. Obeying the rules is important because it is a means to avoid punishment.

•Stage 2 - Individualism and Exchange
At this stage of moral development, children account for individual points of view and judge actions based on how they serve individual needs. In the Heinz dilemma, children argued that the best course of action was the choice that best-served Heinz’s needs. Reciprocity is possible, but only if it serves one's own interests.

Level 2. Conventional Morality
•Stage 3 - Interpersonal Relationships
Often referred to as the "good boy-good girl" orientation, this stage of moral development is focused on living up to social expectations and roles. There is an emphasis on conformity, being "nice," and consideration of how choices influence relationships.

•Stage 4 - Maintaining Social Order
At this stage of moral development, people begin to consider society as a whole when making judgments. The focus is on maintaining law and order by following the rules, doing one’s duty and respecting authority.

Level 3. Postconventional Morality
•Stage 5 - Social Contract and Individual Rights
At this stage, people begin to account for the differing values, opinions and beliefs of other people. Rules of law are important for maintaining a society, but members of the society should agree upon these standards.

•Stage 6 - Universal Principles
Kolhberg’s final level of moral reasoning is based upon universal ethical principles and abstract reasoning. At this stage, people follow these internalized principles of justice, even if they conflict with laws and rules.

Are you fighting for your individual rights if you don't let yourself get screwed over or are you serving your own interests? Can it be different depending on how you think about it even if the result is the same? There are things that are more important than just being a good girl or a good boy and doing what others tell you should be done. If I think something is unfair, I am a stinker about it. I hate deception and I don't like to feel like somebody's fool.

[Duchess]

I consider myself to be a good person, in my private life I often skirt a fine line on what society deems acceptable but that's just who I am. I'm going to do whatever is right for me & my situation at any given time. While I do consider the opinion of some, that's not what makes my decisions for me.

[IMaDick]

I always do what's right, it may not look like it but I do, I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks, I have a functioning brain and a sharp pencil.

[username]

Its milking the system. Renters don't get jack for their rent payments, why do people who buy make the assumption that the value of their home will always go up?

[Cracker]

I just had to know what user said because this thread is now possessed. Better be good!

[Cracker]

Its milking the system. Renters don't get jack for their rent payments, why do people who buy make the assumption that the value of their home will always go up?

I'm not sure if that is the problem or if the problem is losing so much equity in the matter of a year or two. Mine is about 60% value now...

This really isn't about the equity thing, it is more about getting a better house while you can even though you have a house that won't sell. I think many people are willing to take a hit on the sale of their homes so they can buy a different home, just not half. That's expecting a lot.

It's easy to say that shit when you live in the bay area, miss. This is a historical issue in Georgia. There have been several "white flights" as urban thugs move further and further from the center of the city. It is a real issue. I feel badly for old people who didn't move when they had their chance that have to live scared half to death all the time that someone will break in and kill them. The lower half of my county is going through that.