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B37 also referred to zimmerman throughout the trial and deliberations as “georgie”. She agreed a book deal within 48 hours of the jurys decision knowing an aquital would earn her more money.
She said there was no doubt it was “georgie” screaming for help in the recording even though zimmerman stated in a police interview that he did not scream for help at any point during his encounter with Martin.
She constantly referred to “stand your ground” which was not mentioned during the trial.
She admitted she thought zimmerman made up his version of events but that didn't matter.
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I was glad to hear a juror speak but disappointed in what she had to say. I wanted to see a juror that began this process with a stance that was firmly in the middle but I didn't get that from her. That's my perception.
In regards to her writing her "not for profit" book. Please. Puleeeeeze.
I heard her say that after the verdict was reached they all cried & my first thought was, great, just great, emotional females.
I've never been on a jury & I hope I never am. I'd like to think I'd act with decorum but I think it's possible I would attempt to browbeat those who didn't agree with me.
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All potential jurors should be made to watch the film Twelve Angry Men before being given any chance to be on a jury.
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I take umbrage at this comment she made - "I think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into".
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(07-16-2013, 07:55 AM)Duchess Wrote:
I take umbrage at this comment she made - "I think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into".
Yeah I don't blame you because that comment is bullshit.
She knew she would make more money from an aquital and that is a disgrace.
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(07-16-2013, 01:21 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: B37 also referred to zimmerman throughout the trial and deliberations as “georgie”. She agreed a book deal within 48 hours of the jurys decision knowing an aquital would earn her more money.
She said there was no doubt it was “georgie” screaming for help in the recording even though zimmerman stated in a police interview that he did not scream for help at any point during his encounter with Martin.
She constantly referred to “stand your ground” which was not mentioned during the trial.
She admitted she thought zimmerman made up his version of events but that didn't matter.
I love a fair trial!
Where did you get this, CN?
In the interview with Anderson Cooper, she called Zimmerman "George" and Martin "Trayvon". They were referred to as such throughout the trial by witnesses and attorneys. I never heard her say, "Georgie".
When she mentioned "Stand Your Ground" it was in relation to jury instructions and all the laws. "Stand Your Ground" was referenced several times during the trial (by both sides) and was even explained in context with justified use of force by George's self defense professor during testimony.
She said she believed that George was consistent and told the truth by and large, though she thought there were probably some fabrications and enhancements (Detective Serino's opinion that he told the truth went a long way with her). She believed his story.
Here's the interview, in two parts:
I think as the wife of a lawyer and therefore likely inclined to focus on content of statutes, and someone who is pro-gun and has a grown son with a concealed carry permit, this lady (whose opinions I didn't didn't agree with for the most part) was a really good juror pick by the defense and someone the prosecution should have eliminated.
B37's personal influences and experiences (that's part of the process and all jurors have them; both sides knew some of these things about her from voir dire) made her a great juror pick for the defense. Some attorneys believe that trials are won and lost in jury selection. I think that's partially true. IMO.
P.s. I find this lady irritating personally and the book deal so quickly bothers me. I hope other jurors will speak out soon.
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(07-16-2013, 08:08 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: (07-16-2013, 01:21 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: She agreed a book deal within 48 hours of the jurys decision knowing an aquital would earn her more money.
P.s. I find this lady irritating personally and the book deal so quickly bothers me. I hope other jurors will speak out soon.
Allegedly, she nixed the book deal.
(07-16-2013, 07:55 AM)Duchess Wrote:
I take umbrage at this comment she made - "I think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into".
No me.
A sixteen year old kid, who was suspended from school, should have been restricted from 'roaming'.
FFS! Aren't there consequences for kids when they fuck up?
Not with this kid . . . parents who didn't give a shit and were indulgent.
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(07-16-2013, 09:25 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: Allegedly, she nixed the book deal.
That's what Fox is reporting, yup.
I'm curious to know why she would think her husband's perspective is important. In my opinion he's irrelevant.
One of the jurors from the George Zimmerman trial signed on with a literary agent and was planning to write about her time on the jury, but she quickly backed out and decided against penning the controversial book.
Juror B37 and her husband signed with Martin Literary Management, who announced on Monday that a book was in the works. But shortly after the announcement was made, the juror changed her plans and said she no longer wants to tell her story.
"I realize it was necessary for our jury to be sequestered in order to protest our verdict from unfair outside influence, but that isolation shielded me from the depth of pain that exists among the general public over every aspect of this case. The potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from my and my husband's perspectives solely and it was to be an observation that our 'system' of justice can get so complicated that it creates a conflict with our 'spirit' of justice," she explained in a statement sent to Fox News. "Now that I am returned to my family and to society in general, I have realized that the best direction for me to go is away from writing any sort of book and return instead to my life as it was before I was called to sit on this jury. "
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(07-16-2013, 09:25 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: A sixteen year old kid, who was suspended from school, should have been restricted from 'roaming'.
Roaming? It was 7:10 in the evening, he was returning home from the store.
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(07-16-2013, 09:34 AM)Duchess Wrote: Roaming? It was 7:10 in the evening, he was returning home from the store.
His sixteen year old ass should have been grounded!
This "kid" was unsupervised . . . period.
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Zimmerman should have "pumped the air" like OJ did when he was set loose for murdering two white people. Black people actually celebrated his victory as a win against "whitey". This time the AG and cool Prez are in on the race gig though. A sad bit of media hype that all involved should be ashamed of.
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I agree he should have been grounded, something I know a little something about given I spent so much time under house arrest for running my mouth.
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(07-16-2013, 06:18 AM)Duchess Wrote: I heard her say that after the verdict was reached they all cried & my first thought was, great, just great, emotional females.
Deliberations in a case like this have gotta be tough and exhausting; a lot on their shoulders.
There were mixed-sex juries for OJ Simpson and Jodi Arias; I remember some jurors were reported as crying when verdicts were reached and/or read. As long as they focused on the evidence and the law during the deliberations, crying afterwards isn't weird or a sign of over emotionalism, in my opinion.
(07-16-2013, 09:25 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: Allegedly, she nixed the book deal.
Wise that it was nixed, for now. IMO.
Doesn't bother me if jurors write books, but this juror's immediate announcement and then retraction makes me believe that she really didn't think it through, nor understand the magnitude (in terms of public/media scrutiny) of what was being decided in that deliberation room.
If it was the publisher who actually pulled the plug, I'm glad they did.
If she feels compelled to share her experience (or her husband is the driver) for whatever reason, it can wait. JMO.
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(07-16-2013, 09:40 AM)Maggot Wrote: Zimmerman should have "pumped the air" like OJ did when he was set loose for murdering two white people. Black people actually celebrated his victory as a win against "whitey". This time the AG and cool Prez are in on the race gig though. A sad bit of media hype that all involved should be ashamed of.
I'm with you 100% on this Maggot.
It is shameful that the AG and Prez are still pursuing this matter to appease the black populace.
Remember the little girl from Chicago that was part of the Prez' inauguration earlier this year? 15 years old, black, high achiever.
She was gunned down in her neighborhood a few days later by a black person. No outrage whatsoever at what happens WITHIN their communities.
But, if a white-hispanic kills one of theirs, it's the end of the fucking world.
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(07-16-2013, 09:25 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: FFS! Aren't there consequences for kids when they fuck up?
Yeah but I don't think those consequences should include being shot and killed by fat liar.
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(07-16-2013, 11:12 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote: Yeah but I don't think those consequences should include being shot and killed by fat liar.
Golly . . . that would be the first club out of my bag, if my 16 year old kid misbehaved.
That is, after getting them a tattoo.
Oh well. Chalk it up to our personal and cultural differences.
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I love Los Angeles and NYC, mostly.
But, you can always count on a handful of shit stirrers breaking the peace. Assholes.
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13 people were arrested on/near Crenshaw Blvd in L.A. today when they broke away from a prayer vigil for Trayvon Martin and started vandalizing property. One journalist was reportedly hurt.
7 were arrested in New York City yesterday at a rally where thousands protested the verdict. They threw bottles and disturbed the peace.
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(07-16-2013, 03:58 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I love Los Angeles . . . Crenshaw Blvd in L.A.
Luvs me sum LA hood!
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On or near Crenshaw Blvd. doesn't say much. That's a long ass boulevard.
ETA: Goes all the way to Palos Verdes where I grew up. No black people there.
j/k.
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(07-16-2013, 03:58 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: you can always count on a handful of shit stirrers breaking the peace. Assholes.
Yes, you can & yes, they are. I hope people watching from a distance understand that the few doing this do not speak for everyone.
I think if there was going to be rioting on a major scale it would have happened by now.
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