Multiple shootings Aurora, CO movie theater. warning, bullet wound photo.

[Duchess]

We really don't know.

I know, that's why I prefaced my post by saying I didn't fact check, I didn't want anyone discussing it as if it were true.

[username]

Zero, the RFK assassination is so fascinating. From more than one shooter to LAPD destroying evidence, the real events of that day have been successfully covered up. I firmly believe he was mind controlled in some way to be the pasty.

You know with Holmes, nobody in that theater saw him. They saw someone dressed head to toe in black with his face completely covered. Within minutes, the cops find Holmes standing calmly by his open trunk. He could have been there the whole time the shooting was going down.

Just in case some of you are skimming, to summarize, SS believes the Aurora killings were perhaps some government plot to raise the issue of gun control and disarm citizens. That's why she's relieved people went out and bought more guns. She's predicting more mass killings as part of this anti-gun plot.

Judge for yourself. I say ::.

[Jezreel]

Zero, the RFK assassination is so fascinating. From more than one shooter to LAPD destroying evidence, the real events of that day have been successfully covered up. I firmly believe he was mind controlled in some way to be the pasty.

You know with Holmes, nobody in that theater saw him. They saw someone dressed head to toe in black with his face completely covered. Within minutes, the cops find Holmes standing calmly by his open trunk. He could have been there the whole time the shooting was going down.

Just in case some of you are skimming, to summarize, SS believes the Aurora killings were perhaps some government plot to raise the issue of gun control and disarm citizens. That's why she's relieved people went out and bought more guns. She's predicting more mass killings as part of this anti-gun plot.

Judge for yourself. I say ::.

Right it's the government's fault - purlease!

This guy is another crazy with illusions of grandeur who thought it would be a good idea to terrorize innocent people and shoot as many as he could while they sat excitedly watching a much raved about new release at the cinema. No conspiracy, no government, nothing more then fucked up psycho.

Agreed user :

[MikeyA]

Zero, the RFK assassination is so fascinating. From more than one shooter to LAPD destroying evidence, the real events of that day have been successfully covered up. I firmly believe he was mind controlled in some way to be the pasty.

You know with Holmes, nobody in that theater saw him. They saw someone dressed head to toe in black with his face completely covered. Within minutes, the cops find Holmes standing calmly by his open trunk. He could have been there the whole time the shooting was going down.

Just in case some of you are skimming, to summarize, SS believes the Aurora killings were perhaps some government plot to raise the issue of gun control and disarm citizens. That's why she's relieved people went out and bought more guns. She's predicting more mass killings as part of this anti-gun plot.

Judge for yourself. I say ::.

Now I don't believe the Aurora killings were a government plot.

But since the government sent arms to Mexico, didn't track them, didn't attempt to apprehend the people they sold them to, and when Americans were killed by them their first reaction was to blame the American Manufacturers and Dealers and call for new laws. Makes me think twice about calling SS insane.

Now two years ago before the above scenario took place I might have agreed with you. Not today. That has shown the government is not above playing politics with the lives of Americans.

[shitstorm]

Now I don't believe the Aurora killings were a government plot.

But since the government sent arms to Mexico, didn't track them, didn't attempt to apprehend the people they sold them to, and when Americans were killed by them their first reaction was to blame the American Manufacturers and Dealers and call for new laws. Makes me think twice about calling SS insane.

Now two years ago before the above scenario took place I might have agreed with you. Not today. That has shown the government is not above playing politics with the lives of Americans.

Obviously, I don't know the story behind the Aurora shootings but I don't jump to conclusions like "James Holmes, lone nut did it, end of story". Of course, the very same people who sneer at the idea that there may be more to it than meets the eye, are the same ones who would never believe our government would pull some shit like Fast & Furious. They would just assume that what they were told was true - American gun rights are the root of all evil in Mexico - until the truth inadvertently came to light. The Democrats, administration and the state dept were hammering that meme a year or two before they got busted in their GUN RUNNING TO MEXICAN PSYCHOS operation. Based upon that, alone, anyone politically aware and astute could have predicted something was going to be done to prove the case of those spreading the meme.

Governments have long histories of false flags and staged provocations to achieve political objectives. The US's entry into Vietnam was based upon one. The Israeli murder of American sailors on the USS Liberty was another. Operation Gladio's widespread terror, all over Europe, another. That some people are too stupid to know these things is exactly why we, as a constitutional republic, are going down the toilet. People care more about shopping and the next iPhone than they do about what's going on right under their own goddamn noses.

The airhead, username, seems to think it sinister that I would predict it will happen again. Well, I do predict it will, just as I (and many others) did after the Beltway Snipers failed to bring about gun control, as Columbine failed, as VA Tech failed, etc. It's 100% predictable that it will happen again.

Now, what's the deal with the psychiatrist who was 'treating' Holmes? Military or govt connections is it?

[username]

The airhead, username, seems to think it sinister that I would predict it will happen again. Well, I do predict it will, just as I (and many others) did after the Beltway Snipers failed to bring about gun control, as Columbine failed, as VA Tech failed, etc. It's 100% predictable that it will happen again.

Your reading comprehension sucks. Of course it will happen again. The difference between you and I is I don't think it will occur as the result of some evil plot to bring about gun control.

[ZEROSPHERES]

Now I don't believe the Aurora killings were a government plot.

But since the government sent arms to Mexico, didn't track them, didn't attempt to apprehend the people they sold them to, and when Americans were killed by them their first reaction was to blame the American Manufacturers and Dealers and call for new laws. Makes me think twice about calling SS insane.

Now two years ago before the above scenario took place I might have agreed with you. Not today. That has shown the government is not above playing politics with the lives of Americans.

I stayed with Timothy Leary for the summer of 1967 and began to feel I could not trust anyone, even the smiling guru who was asked to leave Harvard after innocently conducting LSD experiments with undergrads there. Finding out he had previous CIA connections and that his first wife committed suicide on his birthday made me think twice about where I could place my trust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_h...ted_States

In much later years as Tim grew reflective his new mantra was 'Don't Trust Authority'

[shitstorm]

Batman premiere shooting in Colorado: eyewitness account
By Stacey Leasca | 07/20/12

Local Aurora, Colorado residents Quentin Caldwell and Sharon Segura describe a brutally chaotic scene at the theater in the Denver suburbs where a gunman killed 12 and wounded 40 at the midnight premiere of the new Batman movie, “The Dark Night Rises.”

Segura told GlobalPost they were sitting in the third row, center of the theater next door to the shooting. Several minutes into the film, during an action scene, they heard gunshots that Segura thought sounded out of place.

“We get about 10 minutes into the movie and there is this big action scene and there’s lots of gunfire. And there is just maybe five or six really loud pops” she said. “So I freak out and I jump a little. And my husband laughs at me and I said, ‘no you don’t understand that wasn’t part of the movie, that was real. That was way too loud.’”

Segura went on to say she and her husband stayed in their seats for about a minute before she heard another one or two shots. Then someone screamed, “someone’s shooting up the movie theater.”

Segura said at this point she could see bullet holes in the wall from the theater next door.

Segura and her husband approached the lower exits to find them blocked. “We were yelled at ‘no no no, don’t go through the lobby.’”

Segura and her husband moved to the upper exits where she said they were met by two police officers, a man and a woman, who were shouting to everyone in the crowd to hold up their hands.

“The male cop starts screaming at someone ‘can they go?’ The female officer just said ‘just go, go get out of here.’”

Segura said she and her husband then ran down the stairs where they began to assist others out of the theater, in what she described as a “triage area.” Once outside, Segura said all she could see was blood.

“There are just people everywhere bleeding. Their legs just looked like they were made out of meat. There was no skin left on them, just full of holes.” Segura, who had first aid training, and Quentin, who is an ex-Marine, said “well, we’ve got to help these people.”

She described seeing a cop “who’d been shot through the chest. He looked terrified.” That’s when the couple decided to flee the scene. “If the gunmen are going to kill cops, there’s no way they’re going to be stopped,” she recalled thinking. She didn’t know at the time that a lone gunman was to blame.

She said that the cop was still alive when they left, but based on where he was shot, “I doubt that he would make it. There was just so much blood.”

http://www.minnpost.com/global-post/2012...ss-account

I don't remember any officers getting shot. ???

[koko]

SS,

followed the video to youtube, where someone asks about it in the comments, and she (I assume it's her, it's the same user who uploaded the vid.) responds. Apparently she wasn't exactly quoted right...(i removed part of the first person's comment bc they're trying to get ppl to visit their site...spammy)



I read in GLP forum that you'd helped a policer officer who had been shot at the Theater...is this true?
I listend to this video but heard nothing about this officer, can you tell what went on with him or if anything at all on this claim?
thanks and much appreciated

connectingdots2 2 weeks ago


I didn't help a cop. There was some one in a costume, that myself and several other people had mistaken to be an officer, but I had only seen him in the back of a squad car. I don't know who reported that, but when I saw that person my husband and I decided to leave so I had no contact with that person.

TheCrimsonReign in reply to connectingdots2 2 weeks ago

[HairOfTheDog]

The media convinced a judge to mandate the University of Colorado to release over 2,000 documents related to James Holmes's year at the school. This was after the District Attorney's Office asked for the records to be kept from the public in order to preserve Holmes's right to a fair trial.

Looks like no new significant information was gained from the docs anyway because they had to be so heavily redacted to adhere to laws prohibiting release of medical and academic records.

Motion hearings begin Monday, January 7^th, after which his plea will be entered.


Full story here:
http://news.msn.com/us/school-records-ma...olo-gunman

[Duchess]

Police officers who arrested James Holmes after the Colorado movie theater massacre described on Monday the suspected gunman, clad in body armor, as unusually relaxed but fidgety at times.

Holmes didn't resist arrest behind the theater and volunteered that his apartment had been booby trapped, the officers testified during the opening of a hearing in which prosecutors began laying out their case against the former neuroscience graduate student.

Officer Jason Obiatt said Holmes seemed "very, very relaxed" and didn't seem to have "normal emotional reactions" to things.

"He seemed very detached from it all," he said.

When Obiatt first saw Holmes in his gear standing next to his car behind the theater, he thought he was a fellow officer but then realized Holmes was standing still, and not rushing toward the theater.

Obiatt pointed his gun at him, handcuffed him and searched him. He said he found two knives and a semi-automatic handgun on top of Holmes' car. Obiatt said an ammunition round also fell out of Holmes' pocket and he found another one on the ground.

Officer Aaron Blue said Holmes was fidgeting around after he and Obiatt put him in a patrol car, prompting them to stop and search Holmes again. They were worried they might have missed something because of Holmes' bulky outfit.

Investigators say Holmes tossed two gas canisters and then opened fire during the midnight showing of the Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises" on July 20, killing 12 people and wounding dozens.

The preliminary hearing is expected to last all week. It will allow the judge to determine whether the prosecution's case is strong enough to warrant a trial but it's rare for a judge not to order a trial if a case gets this far.

Whatever details emerge at the preliminary hearing, they will do so in a nation that has changed dramatically since the July 20 attack that pushed the problems of gun violence and mental illness into the forefront before receding.

That debate reignited last month when a gunman killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Conn., spawning calls for better psychiatric care, tougher gun laws and the arming of teachers.

Holmes is charged with more than 160 counts, including murder and attempted murder.

Legal analysts say that evidence appears to be so strong that Holmes may well accept a plea agreement before trial.

In such cases, the preliminary hearing can set the stage for a deal by letting each side assess the other's strengths and weaknesses, said Laurie Levenson, a former federal prosecutor and now a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.

They "are often the first step to resolving the case, a mini-trial so both sides can see the writing on the wall," she said.

In general, plea agreements help prosecutors avoid costly trials, give the accused a lesser sentence like life in prison rather than the death penalty, and spare the victims and their families from the trauma of going through a lengthy trial.

At this stage, prosecutors must only meet a "probable cause" standard — much lower than the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard for a guilty verdict, said Mimi Wesson, a professor of law at the University of Colorado Law School.

Many of the survivors and family members of the dead attended the hearing.

The hearing is the first extensive public disclosure of the evidence against Holmes. Three days after the shooting, District Judge William Sylvester forbade attorneys and investigators from discussing the case publicly, and many court documents have been under seal.

It took this long to get to the preliminary hearing because lawyers have been debating what physical evidence should be made available to one side or the other, whether a psychiatrist who met with Holmes is barred from testimony by doctor-patient privilege, who was responsible for leaks to the media, and other issues.

Police say Holmes, now 25, had stockpiled weapons, ammunition, explosives and body armor. He was a first-year student in a Ph.D. neuroscience program at the University of Colorado, Denver, but he failed a year-end exam and withdrew in June, authorities have said.

The shootings happened six weeks later.

Federal authorities have said Holmes entered the theater with a ticket and is believed to have propped open a door, slipped out to his car and returned with his weapons. Police arrested him outside the theater shortly after the shootings ended.

Holmes' mental health could be a significant issue — and possibly a contentious one — in the preliminary hearing.

His attorneys have told the judge Holmes is mentally ill, but they have not said whether they plan to employ an insanity defense. He had seen a university psychiatrist, and his lawyers have said he tried to call the psychiatrist nine minutes before the killing began.

Defense lawyers have said they plan to call at least two people, described as "lay witnesses," who could testify about Holmes' mental health. Prosecutors asked Sylvester to block the witnesses, but he refused.

[Sphincter Cop]

Fucking nut job..........

Misty Benjamin, James Holmes Fan, Is 'Physically Attracted' To Murder Suspect; 'Holmies' Fanclub Exists
The Huffington Post | By Andy Campbell

When Misty Benjamin feels upset, she need only conjure up the image of suspected mass murderer James Holmes, and she feels at ease.

The 30-year-old Aurora, Colo. resident dyed her hair orange and showed up at three of Holmes' preliminary hearings because she loves the man who allegedly shot up a theater full of people at a screening of The Dark Knight Rises on July 20, Business Insider reports.

"Tons of people are hating me because I'm deciding to be compassionate and show compassion for a person that committed a horrendous crime," she reportedly told the Daily Beast.

"When I first saw him, I was physically attracted to him," she said. "When I get upset, I look at his picture and I calm down."

She added that she doesn't think Holmes is a bad guy, but "what he did was bad."

Holmes faces more than 160 charges in the mass shooting and for allegedly setting up a series explosive traps in his home for police.

Meanwhile, a Facebook page has been set up for James Holmes fandom. It's unclear whether the site is satire, but "Holmies For James Holmes" has already enraged other Facebook users. It features photoshopped pictures of the suspect, as well as user-submitted drawings and calls for a not-guilty verdict in the case.

"We all sin, some of us rape, some of us kill, in the end, it's all the same <3," a moderator wrote on the page.

[Duchess]

*ahem* MS, see what I mean? They are EVERYWHERE.

[Duchess]

The widow of a U.S. Navy veteran killed in the shooting rampage at a Colorado movie theater has sued a psychiatrist who treated accused gunman James Holmes, saying he should have been held in a mental health facility to protect the public.

The lawsuit, filed in Denver on Monday, is the first shooting-related suit against psychiatrist Dr. Lynne Fenton and her employer, the University of Colorado at Denver, according to college spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery.

Holmes, a former neuroscience doctoral student at the University of Colorado, is accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 others at the July screening of a Batman movie in one of the worst cases of U.S. gun violence in recent years.

Chantel Blunk, whose 26-year-old husband Jonathan Blunk was killed in the shooting in a Denver suburb said in the suit that Fenton knew Holmes "was dangerous" and had a "duty to use reasonable care to protect the public at large" from him.

Colorado media, including the Denver Post, reported last month that Fenton rejected a law enforcement offer to involuntarily confine Holmes for 72 hours after he told her six weeks before the shooting that he fantasized about killing "a lot of people."

"Fenton was presented with the opportunity to use such reasonable care when the Colorado University Police offered to apprehend James Holmes on a psychiatric hold," the lawsuit stated. "Fenton breached her duty to use reasonable care."

Fenton's attorney declined to comment on the lawsuit, which brings a claim of negligence and wrongful death against Fenton and names the University of Colorado as a defendant because it employed her.

Story

[NightOwl]

Thanks! Duchess for this article, this woman has 2 small children and seeing her husband hold them is heartbreaking, daddy is gone over a Batman Movie it's outragious!!!

[Duchess]

A psychiatrist who treated James Holmes told campus police a month before the Colorado theater attack that Holmes had homicidal thoughts and was a danger to the public, according to documents released Thursday.

Dr. Lynne Fenton, a psychiatrist at the University of Colorado, Denver, told police in June that the shooting suspect also threatened and intimidated her. It was more than a month before the July 20 attack at a movie theater that killed 12 and injured 70.

In the days after the attack, campus police said they had never had contact with Holmes, who was a graduate student at the university.

But campus police Officer Lynn Whitten told investigators after the shooting that Fenton had contacted her. Whitten said Fenton was following her legal requirement to report threats to authorities, according to a search warrant affidavit.

"Dr. Fenton advised that through her contact with James Holmes she was reporting, per her requirement, his danger to the public due to homicidal statements he had made," the affidavit said.

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[SIXFOOTERsez]

Stupid bastards, get the crazy motherfuckers off the street and leave me and my leagal weapons alone.

[HairOfTheDog]

More Legal Delays - a Matter of Life or Death



Will this joker ever get tried?

Snip:
CENTENNIAL, Colo. (AP) — The judge in the Colorado theater shootings case on Thursday indefinitely postponed the trial of James Holmes so attorneys can argue whether he should undergo another psychiatric evaluation. Holmes' trial had been set to begin in February.

Holmes pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to charges of killing 12 people and injuring 70 at an Aurora theater in July 2012. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty, and they want Holmes to undergo further evaluation of his sanity.

Holmes' attorneys don't dispute that he committed the shootings, but his plea makes psychiatric evaluations — which assess whether Holmes was sane at the time of the shootings — the most important pieces of evidence.

If doctors who evaluated Holmes concluded he was insane, it would be much harder for prosecutors to persuade a jury to convict him of murder and sentence him to death.

If jurors agreed Holmes was insane, he would be committed indefinitely to the state hospital. He could one day be released If doctors there ever concluded Holmes' sanity had been restored, he could one day be released, but that is considered unlikely.

Colorado law defines insanity as the inability to tell right from wrong because of a mental disease or defect. An evaluation by the state mental hospital is mandatory for anyone who pleads insanity. Holmes underwent his last summer.

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Sounds like the psychiatric eval Holmes took back in September rendered an "insane" diagnosis. The results haven't been disclosed to the public; that's JMO based on the fact that it's the prosecution, not the defense, who are delaying the trial and asking for more psych eval.

If Holmes is found to be insane by several credible unbiased psychiatrists, I don't think prosecutors will be able to get a death penalty sentence for Holmes from the jury.

What Holmes did was horrendous - he should never be released back into society. If he knew what he was doing at the time of the shooting, even if he was mentally defective, then of course he knew it was wrong. In that case, I don't care if he gets LWOP or the death penalty.

If he was instead truly living some psychotic scenario and didn't realize the reality of what he was doing, he belongs in a max security mental facility for life, IMO. Just don't let him out, ever.

[nrkerr]

Isn't he the guy that is some kind of genius? He had put several things in motion to make it seem that he was insane.

I personally think it's an act, so he will end up in the mental hospital. He knows he could possibly get out someday.

I hope that motherfucker fries!!!

[HairOfTheDog]

Insane doesn't mean unintelligent, nor does it preclude one from premeditating.

If Holmes is putting on an act and he fries, fine by me.

But, I don't think killing criminals who are consistently deemed "insane" by credible psychiatric professionals accomplishes much. I see it more like punishing them for being sick and untreated than delivering appropriate justice.

Still, I understand the "fry him!" mentality when the crimes are as horrendous as those perpetrated by Holmes, even if he is insane.

Anyway, interested to see how this plays out. It's probably gonna be a while before we learn any more, though.