Posts: 26,248
Threads: 228
Joined: Dec 2008
(02-22-2022, 07:11 PM)rothschild Wrote: (02-22-2022, 06:43 PM)sally Wrote: (02-22-2022, 05:05 PM)rothschild Wrote: (02-22-2022, 10:07 AM)BigMark Wrote: I think getting serotonin highs by killing people in video games is not good.
With violence I think you get an adrenaline rush. With most other addictive behaviors that don't involve substance abuse, it's a dopamine high.
What's really disturbing to me is that so much of what is promoted in our society is addictive by design, and that's where the big money is made in psychology. That, IMO, is why treating/preventing mental illness isn't a priority.
Anyway, I agree with you that's it's problematic.
You're contradicting yourself. Above you said that people blame other things instead of addressing the problem. Millions of people play violent video games and realize it's just a game and form of entertainment. Playing grand theft auto doesn't make people want to go out and kill, if it does then there is some other deep rooted problem going on and they'd do it regardless.
No competent psychologist has ever asserted that violent videogames transform people into mass murderers. What they have done is to conclusively prove that they are not "harmless" -- which shouldn't be the least bit surprising to anyone since there is just about nothing in this world that is perfectly harmless. It doesn't work that way. Beyond that, science has given us quite a bit of insight into *how* media saturated with violence and sex impacts the human mind, and the primary finding is that we become desensitized; furthermore, people who have severe mental illness are far more susceptible to such media, so it's pretty much a certainty that a tiny segment of the general population are predisposed to acting out what they are constantly exposed to, and that tiny segment is all it takes for things to go horribly wrong.
A tiny segment of the general population has always acted out regardless. People were committing violent acts when the only entertainment was the Howdy Doody show.
Posts: 7,566
Threads: 36
Joined: Mar 2011
(02-22-2022, 08:28 PM)sally Wrote: (02-22-2022, 07:11 PM)rothschild Wrote: (02-22-2022, 06:43 PM)sally Wrote: (02-22-2022, 05:05 PM)rothschild Wrote: (02-22-2022, 10:07 AM)BigMark Wrote: I think getting serotonin highs by killing people in video games is not good.
With violence I think you get an adrenaline rush. With most other addictive behaviors that don't involve substance abuse, it's a dopamine high.
What's really disturbing to me is that so much of what is promoted in our society is addictive by design, and that's where the big money is made in psychology. That, IMO, is why treating/preventing mental illness isn't a priority.
Anyway, I agree with you that's it's problematic.
You're contradicting yourself. Above you said that people blame other things instead of addressing the problem. Millions of people play violent video games and realize it's just a game and form of entertainment. Playing grand theft auto doesn't make people want to go out and kill, if it does then there is some other deep rooted problem going on and they'd do it regardless.
No competent psychologist has ever asserted that violent videogames transform people into mass murderers. What they have done is to conclusively prove that they are not "harmless" -- which shouldn't be the least bit surprising to anyone since there is just about nothing in this world that is perfectly harmless. It doesn't work that way. Beyond that, science has given us quite a bit of insight into *how* media saturated with violence and sex impacts the human mind, and the primary finding is that we become desensitized; furthermore, people who have severe mental illness are far more susceptible to such media, so it's pretty much a certainty that a tiny segment of the general population are predisposed to acting out what they are constantly exposed to, and that tiny segment is all it takes for things to go horribly wrong.
A tiny segment of the general population has always acted out regardless. People were committing violent acts when the only entertainment was the Howdy Doody show.
You left out one important thing -- the most important, in fact: the prevalence of mental illness isn't static. Hasn't COVID demonstrated this? Yeah, it has.
Synergy comes in two flavors, positive, and negative. What we're seeing today is a "perfect storm" of negative synergy, which is precisely what's to be expected in a world where corruption has become entrenched.
Posts: 26,248
Threads: 228
Joined: Dec 2008
I agree with that, we better put a stop to it now. But we're not going to.
Posts: 7,566
Threads: 36
Joined: Mar 2011
(02-22-2022, 10:14 PM)sally Wrote: I agree with that, we better put a stop to it now. But we're not going to.
That's your choice, but I choose to think we can do it. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Posts: 26,248
Threads: 228
Joined: Dec 2008
(02-22-2022, 10:34 PM)rothschild Wrote: (02-22-2022, 10:14 PM)sally Wrote: I agree with that, we better put a stop to it now. But we're not going to.
That's your choice, but I choose to think we can do it. Where there's a will, there's a way.
There isn't a will when the majority accepts it as normalcy.
Posts: 7,566
Threads: 36
Joined: Mar 2011
(02-23-2022, 12:24 AM)sally Wrote: (02-22-2022, 10:34 PM)rothschild Wrote: (02-22-2022, 10:14 PM)sally Wrote: I agree with that, we better put a stop to it now. But we're not going to.
That's your choice, but I choose to think we can do it. Where there's a will, there's a way.
There isn't a will when the majority accepts it as normalcy.
I guess that freedom convoy up in Canada didn't get the memo. Ditto the millions of Canadians who support it. And this is happening all around the globe. So no, it isn't over. Powerful forces are at work, and no matter how you conceptualize them, and who -- or what -- prevails, almost everything we're familiar with will soon be swept away, and the only people who are likely to survive are those who have the ability to adapt.
Posts: 26,248
Threads: 228
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,756
Threads: 42
Joined: Jul 2010
(02-23-2022, 12:24 AM)sally Wrote: (02-22-2022, 10:34 PM)rothschild Wrote: (02-22-2022, 10:14 PM)sally Wrote: I agree with that, we better put a stop to it now. But we're not going to.
That's your choice, but I choose to think we can do it. Where there's a will, there's a way.
There isn't a will when the majority accepts it as normalcy.
we don't need a majority (even though we have one); we only need a determined minority. during the revolutionary war, 1⁄3 of citizens remained loyal to the crown, 1⁄3 remained neutral and just wanted to be left alone and 1⁄3 fought and beat the best army on the planet with squirrel guns and sheer guts.
COSP's latest polls show over 70% of likely voters (across the entire political spectrum (dems, pubs and indies) are fed up; don't listen to the news, they are in cahoots with the elitists in DC trying to divide us. They want you to feel hopeless and alone; you are not.
Posts: 86,987
Threads: 2,951
Joined: Jun 2008
"during the revolutionary war"
Posts: 1,756
Threads: 42
Joined: Jul 2010
(02-23-2022, 06:16 AM)Duchess Wrote: "during the revolutionary war"
póg mo thóin
Posts: 7,566
Threads: 36
Joined: Mar 2011
(02-23-2022, 12:56 AM)sally Wrote: And us in florida.
With Trump in Mar-a-Lago, your salvation is assured.
Posts: 86,987
Threads: 2,951
Joined: Jun 2008
The Sandy Hook kids would be starting college this Fall.
Posts: 10,755
Threads: 417
Joined: Jul 2010
(09-02-2024, 05:10 PM)Duchess Wrote: The Sandy Hook kids would be starting college this Fall.
Must be lots of current ears in the eyes of their parents realizing that.
Carsman: Loves Living Large
Home is where you're treated the best, but complain the most!
Life is short, make the most of it, get outta here!
Posts: 10,755
Threads: 417
Joined: Jul 2010
(09-02-2024, 05:39 PM)Carsman Wrote: (09-02-2024, 05:10 PM)Duchess Wrote: The Sandy Hook kids would be starting college this Fall.
Must be lots of current ears in the eyes of their parents realizing that.
Damn auto correct, "TEARS".
Carsman: Loves Living Large
Home is where you're treated the best, but complain the most!
Life is short, make the most of it, get outta here!
|