GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[ZEROSPHERES]

Lie all you want, that huge soda mug in your avatar is blocking the made in China, belt buckle that you bought from the flea market and we all know it.

Here's proof

[sally]

I knew you were going to do that .

[Maggot]

A quick scenario:
A hurricane blasts through the city or town you live in, you seek shelter and when you go back home you find your house is almost destroyed. The police are very busy and looters are everywhere taking anything of value that's still good. How do you guard your house?

[Duchess]

A quick scenario:
A hurricane blasts through the city or town you live in, you seek shelter and when you go back home you find your house is almost destroyed. The police are very busy and looters are everywhere taking anything of value that's still good. How do you guard your house?

A quick scenario:

Call whine-one-one

[Cynical Ninja]

A quick scenario:
A hurricane blasts through the city or town you live in, you seek shelter and when you go back home you find your house is almost destroyed. The police are very busy and looters are everywhere taking anything of value that's still good. How do you guard your house?

I don't.

I call my insurance company my policy includes coverage for natural disasters such as flooding etc.

I have no desire to shoot someone in the face because they are stealing my TV.

[Cynical Ninja]

You ain't doing to good here darlin.

You have to be superior to someone in order to patronise them and you aren't superior to sal in any measurable way.

So I'd quit it if I was you meathead.

[Cynical Ninja]

Quick scenario:-

Looters are looting your house you pull a gun point it at them and say “stop looting my house niggers!”. Five of the looters pull their guns point them at you and say “we are gonna loot your house anyway cracker now all you have to decide is whether you want to have a looted house and live or have a looted house and be dead”. What in the name of good gravy would your response to that be?

[Duchess]

You don't take the time to tell them to stop. They are in your home! You shoot the worthless bastards.

[Cynical Ninja]

But but but, wait! The US was just cannon fodder, remember?

The truth is that the US did save the UK's ass. Without the financial support of America, the UK would have been unable to stay financially solvent. At the end of the war, when lend-lease ended the UK was financially fucked. It might frost your chaps, but unfortunately for your ego the US did help rebuild the UK via the Marshall Plan. The UK was the recipient of nearly 3 billion dollars for reconstruction - more than any other country in Europe! Not to mention additional loans the UK took from the US because the UK was on the balls of its ass.

Had the US not provided that postwar aid or those additional loans, the UK would have collapsed on itself financially. It had no way to rebuild or or stay solvent otherwise. You can groan on and on about it, but there is no changing the history of how things happened.

So yes Virgina, there was a Santa Claus in the UK during and after WW2. Her name was the United States of America.

You're welcome.

Santa claus? Balls!

The last time i checked Father Christmas didn't expect full repayment for every bow on every present he spirits down the chimneys of little kids every 25^th of December.

We repaid you, in full, every last frigging penny we British don't take handouts from people. Of course Britain was on the bones of its arse after WW2 we were on the frontline throughout the war, we endured the equivilent of Pearl Harbour EVERYDAY for MONTHS and YEARS.
That's why you yanks had a nationwide collective shitfit after ⁹⁄₁₁ you had never faced anything like it before well welcome to the real world motherfuckers! Only in America could a radio play about martians landing in New York could cause mass fucking hysteria you gullible little retards!

America would have been on the bones of its arse if it had been on the frontline. But as usual it wasn't so you can take your santa claus analogy and dangle.

[Cynical Ninja]

But but but, wait! The US was just cannon fodder, remember?

The truth is that the US did save the UK's ass. Without the financial support of America, the UK would have been unable to stay financially solvent. At the end of the war, when lend-lease ended the UK was financially fucked. It might frost your chaps, but unfortunately for your ego the US did help rebuild the UK via the Marshall Plan. The UK was the recipient of nearly 3 billion dollars for reconstruction - more than any other country in Europe! Not to mention additional loans the UK took from the US because the UK was on the balls of its ass.

Had the US not provided that postwar aid or those additional loans, the UK would have collapsed on itself financially. It had no way to rebuild or or stay solvent otherwise. You can groan on and on about it, but there is no changing the history of how things happened.

So yes Virgina, there was a Santa Claus in the UK during and after WW2. Her name was the United States of America.

You're welcome.

Santa claus? Balls!

The last time i checked Father Christmas didn't expect full repayment for every bow on every present he spirits down the chimneys of little kids every 25^th of December.

We repaid you, in full, every last frigging penny we British don't take handouts from people. Of course Britain was on the bones of its arse after WW2 we were on the frontline throughout the war, we endured the equivilent of Pearl Harbour EVERYDAY for MONTHS and YEARS.
That's why you yanks had a nationwide collective shitfit after ⁹⁄₁₁ you had never faced anything like it before well welcome to the real world motherfuckers! Only in America could a radio play about martians landing in New York cause mass fucking hysteria you gullible little retards!

America would have been on the bones of its arse if it had been on the frontline. But as usual it wasn't so you can take your santa claus analogy and dangle.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

You don't take the time to tell them to stop. They are in your home! You shoot the worthless bastards.

Place site on target, breath, squeeze...
Collect gold star

[Cynical Ninja]

You don't take the time to tell them to stop. They are in your home! You shoot the worthless bastards.

And what if they start shooting back? Are you willing to risk your life to save your DVD player?

I know you gun nuts all think you are dirty harry but in real life one person opening fire on a crowd of people who then start firing back get killed.

[Cynical Ninja]

Place site on target, breath, squeeze...
Collect gold star

Bwahahaha!

Do you honestly think it would be that easy in real life you deluded cretin?

I would like to point out at this stage that dirty harry and death wish weren't documentaries they were works of fiction.

What was it you once called me? A seriously stupid motherfucker? If the cap fits wear it yourself.

[Duchess]

And what if they start shooting back? Are you willing to risk your life to save your DVD player?

I know you gun nuts all think you are dirty harry but in real life one person opening fire on a crowd of people who then start firing back get killed.

I've never once thought I was Dirty Harry, not a single time. There are many nights that I am here alone, I live in the country, even though we have security it would take time for the police to arrive. I would be a pathetic individual to cower in fear or to hide. This isn't about a fucking DVD player, it's about someone entering my home uninvited in a threatening manner. You can wait for the cops & the insurance company, that's your prerogative but it's not my choice.

[Cynical Ninja]

Don't change the goalposts now, the scenario you are describing above is completely different to the one maggot postulated. Let's get back on track shall we? We were talking about a crowd of looters looting your home after a hurricane you say you would immediately open fire on them and I asked the question “what if they shoot back?”. I patiently await your answer.

[Duchess]

Don't change the goalposts now, the scenario you are describing above is completely different to the one maggot postulated. Let's get back on track shall we? We were talking about a crowd of looters looting your home after a hurricane you say you would immediately open fire on them and I asked the question “what if they shoot back?”. I patiently await your answer.

I'm not changing the goalposts. It's all the same to me. You're presuming I'd be stupid with a gun, do you think I'm going to stand in the open & start shooting? Jesus Christ.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

And what if they start shooting back? Are you willing to risk your life to save your DVD player?

I know you gun nuts all think you are dirty harry but in real life one person opening fire on a crowd of people who then start firing back get killed.

I've never once thought I was Dirty Harry, not a single time. There are many nights that I am here alone, I live in the country, even though we have security it would take time for the police to arrive. I would be a pathetic individual to cower in fear or to hide. This isn't about a fucking DVD player, it's about someone entering my home uninvited in a threatening manner. You can wait for the cops & the insurance company, that's your prerogative but it's not my choice.

I am not Dirty Harry either. I do have adequate training and the will to not be a victim. Also learned a long time ago that these types are not James Bond, Dirty Harry or Shaft. Drop the first one by whatever means necessary and the rest of the cowards melt.

[Duchess]

Drop the first one by whatever means necessary and the rest of the cowards melt.

That's precisely how I take it to be. People that prey on others in the scenario described have no balls.

[Cynical Ninja]

Drop the first one by whatever means necessary and the rest of the cowards melt.

You hope.

What if putting a cap in the ass of one them pisses the rest of them off and they ignore your house and turn on you instead?

Personally I think the days of crowds of scumbags being dispersed by a single shot are long gone especially if they are armed themselves which in your country almost inevitably they will be.

[HairOfTheDog]

IDK. Really depends on the scenario; like to think I'm smarter than to shoot a gun just because I have one without quickly assessing the situation first.

If I see it's only one looter and I can get a quick shot off, maybe I'd shoot, but only if I thought he presented a physical threat to me.

If the hurricane hasn't wiped out the trees or bushes surrounding the house, maybe I'd hide behind one, gun drawn, and shoot 'em as they attempted to run out with my 10 year old tv set and belt buckle collection. I really like my belt buckles. Tough call, are they worth killing over?

If I'm Six, F.U. or anyone else who has loaded guns in the house, for example, I'm gonna assume that there's more than one looter and they've got my weapons before I decide to go in, armed or not, to risk my life for "loot". Shoot one and the rest scramble is a comforting little mental picture; not a reliable reality though.

Now, if anyone entered my home uninvited in a normal daily life scenario and presented a threat to me or anyone staying with me, I'm shooting. No doubt.