GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[F.U.]

Well, she's obviously trying to use this incident as an opportunity to push a gun rights agenda and minimize her own gross negligence, which could have rendered fatal results, but she's just another irresponsible dumbass with a gun, IMO.



Rep. Leslie Combs says she “accidentally discharged a firearm” in her legislative office in the Capitol Annex in Frankfort, Ky., Tuesday, in a statement obtained by CBS News’ Crimesider.

No one was injured in the incident, which was investigated by the Kentucky State Police’s legislative detail.

Combs said she followed “standard safety procedures when the accident occurred” and that police found no evidence that any portion of the round traveled outside her office.

She said she has a concealed-carry permit which she obtained several years ago.

“I strongly support our Second Amendment rights and our state’s concealed-carry law, and believe just as strongly that gun safety and education must be part of that equation,” she said. “I urge everyone to be extremely cautious with their firearm. I know from personal experience how easy it is to discharge a firearm accidentally.”

“Hi I'm an irresponsible asshole my gross negligence is proof that I should be allowed to carry a concealed gun at all times!, God bless America!”

Take a sip of NRA koolaid and relax.

She obviousley did not follow proper unloading procedures for the firearm. I believe I read that the firearm in question is a Ruger LCP. That is a very small 380 cal semiauto handgun. Proper unloading consists of magazine removal, Racking the slide to eject the round that is in the chamber, WHILE keeping the booger hook off the bang stick. The LCP has a very long and heavy trigger pull as its only safety. That is not uncommon with the semiautos of today. To have a negligent discharge with this firearm one must deliberately pull that heavy long trigger. This was no accident. The idiot pulled the trigger and then blamed it on the gun.
Her response to this was , its the guns fault. I wont carry it anymore. From now on I will carry a revolver.
What a dumb ass !!!!!!

[Cynical Ninja]

So she must have deliberately squeezed the trigger quite hard?

You're right she is a dumbass.

I can remember holidaying in Prague years ago before it became fashionable and one of the “bloke” things to do was go shooting. They have these country villas where you can go clay pigeon shooting with crazy ass guns like AKs and M16s. If you as much as hinted at not following the gun guidelines the Czech guys would grab the gun off you and tell you to fuck off. I can remember shooting a massive elephant gun that nearly dislocated my shoulder when it kicked, the rapport was like a fucking thunderclap.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Well, she's obviously trying to use this incident as an opportunity to push a gun rights agenda and minimize her own gross negligence, which could have rendered fatal results, but she's just another irresponsible dumbass with a gun, IMO.



Rep. Leslie Combs says she “accidentally discharged a firearm” in her legislative office in the Capitol Annex in Frankfort, Ky., Tuesday, in a statement obtained by CBS News’ Crimesider.

No one was injured in the incident, which was investigated by the Kentucky State Police’s legislative detail.

Combs said she followed “standard safety procedures when the accident occurred” and that police found no evidence that any portion of the round traveled outside her office.

She said she has a concealed-carry permit which she obtained several years ago.

“I strongly support our Second Amendment rights and our state’s concealed-carry law, and believe just as strongly that gun safety and education must be part of that equation,” she said. “I urge everyone to be extremely cautious with their firearm. I know from personal experience how easy it is to discharge a firearm accidentally.”

“Hi I'm an irresponsible asshole my gross negligence is proof that I should be allowed to carry a concealed gun at all times!, God bless America!”

Take a sip of NRA koolaid and relax.

She obviousley did not follow proper unloading procedures for the firearm. I believe I read that the firearm in question is a Ruger LCP. That is a very small 380 cal semiauto handgun. Proper unloading consists of magazine removal, Racking the slide to eject the round that is in the chamber, WHILE keeping the booger hook off the bang stick. The LCP has a very long and heavy trigger pull as its only safety. That is not uncommon with the semiautos of today. To have a negligent discharge with this firearm one must deliberately pull that heavy long trigger. This was no accident. The idiot pulled the trigger and then blamed it on the gun.
Her response to this was , its the guns fault. I wont carry it anymore. From now on I will carry a revolver.
What a dumb ass !!!!!!

Haven't seen this first hand, but have heard that some of these things will drop the hammer from half cock. If she was racking the slide to clear the chamber round and let it slip before pulling it all the way back it nave have sent the chambered round down range. I have seen a lot of women (weak hands) do this. Damn lucky she didn't put a round into somebody. She is a dumbass. Exactly the type that should not carry a weapon like this.
The LCP is a really small gun, difficult to handle with large paws, but it still takes some relative hand strength to operate. My other half carries a featherweight 38 for just that reason.

[F.U.]

Correct OP. The trigger pull is VERY long on the LCP and the weight is something like 10 lbs of pressure. If you have ever shot a revolver , it is real similar. The trigger has to travel from the forward most point all the way back until it just about hits the frame. They are designed that way because they do not have a manual safety. That very long very heavy trigger pull IS the safety. These are designed to be a pocket carry handgun. The trigger is anything but easy to pull, or , as we all have heard before, a hair trigger.

Here are a couple pics that may explain exactly how far the trigger has to be pulled. The first one is of the gun as it sits at rest [starting point]

The second shows the trigger at the point that it gust tripped the disconnecter. That is the point it needs to be in before the gun goes bang.

[F.U.]

Well, she's obviously trying to use this incident as an opportunity to push a gun rights agenda and minimize her own gross negligence, which could have rendered fatal results, but she's just another irresponsible dumbass with a gun, IMO.



Rep. Leslie Combs says she “accidentally discharged a firearm” in her legislative office in the Capitol Annex in Frankfort, Ky., Tuesday, in a statement obtained by CBS News’ Crimesider.

No one was injured in the incident, which was investigated by the Kentucky State Police’s legislative detail.

Combs said she followed “standard safety procedures when the accident occurred” and that police found no evidence that any portion of the round traveled outside her office.

She said she has a concealed-carry permit which she obtained several years ago.

“I strongly support our Second Amendment rights and our state’s concealed-carry law, and believe just as strongly that gun safety and education must be part of that equation,” she said. “I urge everyone to be extremely cautious with their firearm. I know from personal experience how easy it is to discharge a firearm accidentally.”

“Hi I'm an irresponsible asshole my gross negligence is proof that I should be allowed to carry a concealed gun at all times!, God bless America!”

Take a sip of NRA koolaid and relax.

She obviousley did not follow proper unloading procedures for the firearm. I believe I read that the firearm in question is a Ruger LCP. That is a very small 380 cal semiauto handgun. Proper unloading consists of magazine removal, Racking the slide to eject the round that is in the chamber, WHILE keeping the booger hook off the bang stick. The LCP has a very long and heavy trigger pull as its only safety. That is not uncommon with the semiautos of today. To have a negligent discharge with this firearm one must deliberately pull that heavy long trigger. This was no accident. The idiot pulled the trigger and then blamed it on the gun.
Her response to this was , its the guns fault. I wont carry it anymore. From now on I will carry a revolver.
What a dumb ass !!!!!!

Haven't seen this first hand, but have heard that some of these things will drop the hammer from half cock. If she was racking the slide to clear the chamber round and let it slip before pulling it all the way back it nave have sent the chambered round down range. I have seen a lot of women (weak hands) do this. Damn lucky she didn't put a round into somebody. She is a dumbass. Exactly the type that should not carry a weapon like this.
The LCP is a really small gun, difficult to handle with large paws, but it still takes some relative hand strength to operate. My other half carries a featherweight 38 for just that reason.

I havent heard of this 6. I will have to go do some research about it. We have sold hundreds of these little pocket guns. They run around $325.00 new.


I just spent the last 10 minutes searching for this and found nothing about it. All I am seeing is that it will jam the gun , nothing about it going off. I will keep looking and if you should find anything please let me know.

[Cynical Ninja]

I just dont like the extra risks that are involved with putting a loaded firearm in the hands of the sightless.

Yeah I have to agree with you there.

There are enough accidents with sighted hunters without having blind people added to the mix.

[Cynical Ninja]

Correct OP. The trigger pull is VERY long on the LCP and the weight is something like 10 lbs of pressure. If you have ever shot a revolver , it is real similar. The trigger has to travel from the forward most point all the way back until it just about hits the frame. They are designed that way because they do not have a manual safety. That very long very heavy trigger pull IS the safety. These are designed to be a pocket carry handgun. The trigger is anything but easy to pull, or , as we all have heard before, a hair trigger.

Here are a couple pics that may explain exactly how far the trigger has to be pulled. The first one is of the gun as it sits at rest [starting point]

The second shows the trigger at the point that it gust tripped the disconnecter. That is the point it needs to be in before the gun goes bang.

She obviously gave that trigger a damn good squeeze.

Irresponsible bitch.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

If its prone to jamming thats probably what happened, she had her finger on the trigger when the slide finally closed. Don't really see another to drop the hammer

[Maggot]

She should have been looking down the barrel. Last words would be "what's in there?"

[Cynical Ninja]

She probably uses the barrel of a loaded rifle to poke her ear when its itchy.

[HairOfTheDog]

IT NEVER ENDS...

A 4-year-old boy was shot and killed by his 4-year-old female cousin while they were playing with a gun, Detroit police said. The shooting happened Thursday in a home on the city's west side.

There were three children -- all cousins -- at the home at the time of the incident, said Detroit Deputy Chief Rodney Johnson. The third child was 5, he said.

Detroit Police Public Information Officer Adam Madera said the children found a "long gun" under a bed, pulled it out and began to play with it.

"At this time, although it's early in the investigation, this appears to be a tragic accident," Madera said.

There was an adult present in the house, but that person was a family friend and unrelated to the children, Johnson said.

"It's too early to say if charges will be filed in this case," Johnson said.

This is the latest incident involving children who accidentally shoot someone or die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

In October, a babysitter in Vidor, Texas, was charged after her 5-year-old charge fatally shot himself with her gun, police said.

Two weeks earlier, a 2-year-old girl fatally shot herself in Fayetteville, North Carolina, and the toddler's father faced involuntary manslaughter charges, police said.

In New Orleans, a 5-year-old girl died June 23 after she came into contact with a .38-caliber revolver and accidentally shot herself in the head while her mother was at a store, police said.

Last August, a 3-year-old boy in Dundee, Michigan, found a .40-caliber handgun belonging to a family friend on a closet floor in his home. He died after accidentally shooting himself in the head, police said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/16/us/det...-shooting/
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Just from following the news, it seems to me that more and more of the adults in these types of cases are being charged.

All of the adults who owned the guns and/or placed the guns where they could be reached by children deserve to be charged with negligence, at the very least. IMO. Yeah, it's sad as hell that they lost their kids to these "accidents" but it's sadder that these kids lost their lives because of such gross negligence. No excuses.

[Cynical Ninja]

All of the adults who owned the guns and/or placed the guns where they could be reached by children deserve to be charged with negligence, at the very least.

I agree, FU should be charged with negligence for putting a loaded gun on the table when he is having breakfast with his grandson.

[HairOfTheDog]

F.U. isn't involved in any of the cases of accidental child shootings/fatalities and I believe he said that he never left the kid and the gun unsupervised over breakfast.

[HairOfTheDog]

Laxer background check laws linked to increase in murders

In 2007, the state of Missouri repealed a law mandating that all handgun purchasers pass a background check. Now, a study by researchers at John Hopkins University shows that in the five years after the repeal, murders in the state rose by 16 percent.

The permit-to-purchase law, which had been in effect since 1921, had mandated that a Missouri gun buyer obtain a license stating he or she had passed a background check in order to purchase a handgun, whether from a licensed dealer or in a private sale.. Federal law already requires a background check to purchase a handgun from a federally licensed dealer, and fifteen states require a background check for a private sale, according to the Hopkins study.

Researchers at the John Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research examined state murder data from 1999-2012 and found that the repeal of the mandatory background check law “was associated with an additional 55-63 murders per year between 2008 and 2012” in Missouri.

The study, which is forthcoming in the Journal of Urban Health, found that the rise in gun violence during the period examined was unique in Missouri: “none of the states bordering Missouri experienced significant increases in murder rates and the U.S. murder rate actually declined by over five percent.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-gun-mu...ck-repeal/
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Interesting. Of course, it's possible that there were other Missouri-unique factors that could account for part or all of the murder increase since the license repeal. Looking forward to the full report.

Even if the stats hold up and the link is valid, it may not make a difference to policy makers in the state. Yesterday, a provision to require gun owners to report the theft of a firearm within 72 hours of when they notice it missing was stripped from a broader state gun bill after pressure by the NRA.

[Duchess]

You would think that states would support background checks. Why wouldn't anyone support something that would help to insure that guns don't get into the wrong hands. I do not understand why anyone would oppose that. Goddamn.

[Cynical Ninja]

F.U. isn't involved in any of the cases of accidental child shootings/fatalities and I believe he said that he never left the kid and the gun unsupervised over breakfast.

I'm saying that it is irresponsible to have the gun out on the table in the first place.

I wouldn't have a loaded gun on my breakfast table with my grandkid sitting there if I lived in Compton or Iraq. Wouldn't happen and shouldn't happen.

[BlueTiki]

Of course, it's possible that there were other Missouri-unique factors that could account for part or all of the murder increase since the license repeal. Looking forward to the full report.

The report will state that Missouri had an increase of Chicago niggers now calling the "Show Me State": Home.

[HairOfTheDog]

Hey baby, let me show you how safe this gun is...

A man from Independence Township, Michigan accidentally shot and killed himself on Monday while teaching his girlfriend about gun safety.

The 36-year-old was showing his girlfriend how his three handguns are safe when they aren’t loaded. He was attempting to demonstrate the safety of the handguns by holding them to his head and pulling the trigger.

The third gun fired, and the man was struck in the head. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Three children ages 7, 10, and 12 were in the home but did not witness the shooting, according to reports. The man's girlfriend told authorities he had been drinking most of the day before the incident took place.

This guy joins the ranks of a few other dipshit dead guys who were definitely not qualified to home school and lacked the common sense to adhere to a few simple rules.



Others who've lost their heads performing asinine gun safety demonstrations: In January 2013, 18-year-old Florida resident Alexander Xavier Shaw died doing a similar demonstration. Richard M. McLean, a 22-year-old from Michigan, died in a similar fashion in June 2012. Missouri resident James Looney, 40, was also teaching his girlfriend about gun safety when he shot himself in the head in September 2009.

Refs:
http://www.freep.com/article/20140224/NE...lf-in-head
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25...53983.html

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Others who've lost their heads performing asinine gun safety demonstrations: In January 2013, 18-year-old Florida resident Alexander Xavier Shaw died doing a similar demonstration. Richard M. McLean, a 22-year-old from Michigan, died in a similar fashion in June 2012. Missouri resident James Looney, 40, was also teaching his girlfriend about gun safety when he shot himself in the head in September 2009.

See? Its them fucking girlfriends!

LOL, Darwin is a motherfucker

[Duchess]

It boggles the mind knowing they are just the tip of the iceberg.