GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE, OR DO THEY?

[Duchess]

Horrors like that never leave your mind's eye. Sorry for the dispatcher.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

I can't remember if I talked about it in here or not but I recently discovered there is 2 thousand rounds of ammo up in the stable. I was shocked I tell ya, shocked.

What caliber and is it for sale?

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Some kid that got arrested for drugs Monday just drove up to the police station today and stood in front of the camera and blew his head off. Windham N.H. I guess the police won't have him to kick around anymore. This just happened about 30 min ago. I know the dispatcher that watched it in the camera she's a little shaken up.

Well, that's one.

[F.U.]

I can't remember if I talked about it in here or not but I recently discovered there is 2 thousand rounds of ammo up in the stable. I was shocked I tell ya, shocked.

What caliber and is it for sale?

The Obummer ammo scare is over In my area. Ammo is everywhere and prices of both guns and ammo is coming down. Hell you can buy a ne AR-15 for about 500 now.

[Duchess]

What caliber and is it for sale?

I don't know, I didn't ask and I doubt it's for sale.

There are guns here so I'm aware that there is ammo as well but when I heard "2000 rounds" my very first thought was FU. I thought that sounded like a shit ton of ammo but apparently it's not.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

No, its really not.
Current thinking for the apocalypse crowd is at least 1k for every gun you have
That shit is heavy though
I have over 1000 rds for my Mosin Nagant. Its a 1928 Russian Main Battle Rifle, bolt gun
Blast to shoot, most guns go bang, this thing goes Fucking BOOOM

[SIXFOOTERsez]

So tell me again how the pro gun conservative crowd is the problem
This leftard is from the great state of Illinois, the state with the most restrictive gun laws
Will be interesting to see where he got his weapons

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/lawmake...&ocid=iehp

A gunman unleashed a barrage of gunfire Wednesday at a park in Alexandria, Va., as Republican members of Congress held a morning baseball practice, wounding at least five people, including House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (La.).

President Trump said the suspected gunman — identifed by multiple law enforcement officials as James T. Hodgkinson III, 66, from Illinois — was killed in a shootout with police, two of whom were wounded in the gun battle.

The wounded also included two Capitol Police officers, a congressional aide and a lobbyist.

As people offered prayers for the victims, a profile began to emerge of Hodgkinson, a onetime home inspector. A Facebook page belonging to a person with the same name includes pictures of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders and rhetoric against President Trump including a post that reads: “Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It’s Time to Destroy Trump & Co.”

In this April 17, 2012, photo, James Hodgkinson of Belleville protests outside of the United States Post Office in Downtown Belleville, Ill. A government official says the suspect in the Virginia shooting that injured Rep. Steve Scalise and several others has been identified Hodgkinson.© Derik Holtmann/Belleville News-Democrat/AP In this April 17, 2012, photo, James Hodgkinson of Belleville protests outside of the United States Post Office in Downtown Belleville, Ill. A government official…Scalise’s office said the congressman was wounded in the hip and had surgery at MedStar Washington Hospital Center. Capitol Police Chief Matthew Verderosa said his officers are in good condition and have not suffered any life-threatening injuries.

Alexandria Police Chief Michael Brown said two of his officers engaged in “gunfire and return fire” at Eugene Simpson Stadium Park.

The FBI is taking over as lead investigators; Verderosa said “it’s going to take a while to sort through all the details.” Tim Slater of the FBI said it is “too early to tell whether anyone was targeted. . . . It’s really raw now. We’re exploring all angles.”

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said it is conducting emergency traces on two firearms, one rifle and one handgun.

Scalise’s office, in a statement, said the congressman was out of surgery by 10:30 a.m. The statement described the whip, before surgery, as in good spirits and speaking to his wife, Jennifer, by phone. “He is grateful for the brave actions of U.S. Capitol Police, first responders, and colleagues,” the statement said.

Scalise, who has been in Congress since 2008, represents a district that includes some New Orleans suburbs and bayou parishes. Before entering Congress, he was a lawmaker in Louisiana for eight years. Scalise and his wife have two children and live in Jefferson, La.

Rep. Roger Williams (R-Tex.) said in a statement that one of his staff members is among the injured.

The shooting, which occurred in the popular park on East Monroe Avenue, was the final practice before Thursday night’s scheduled charity game between Republicans and Democrats at Nationals Park. The park is in the Del Ray neighborhood, near the Potomac Yard shopping center on Route 1 and Old Town Alexandria, adjacent to a YMCA and across the street from a CVS and an Aldi grocery store.

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) tweeted that a “shooter attacked a GOP baseball practice. Rifle. 50+ shots fired. 5 hit including Steve Scalise. I am not shot.” He estimated 50 to 100 shots were fired during batting practice. Two law enforcement officials said the initial indications from the scene do not suggest that the gunman had a connection to international terrorism, but cautioned that investigators are still gathering evidence.

Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.), the manager of the GOP team, said there were “dozens if not hundreds of shots fired.” Members of the team and onlookers took cover in dugouts, got down on the ground or beneath an SUV.

In addition to shooting at Scalise, the team’s second baseman, the shooter shot at third baseman Trent Kelly. Barton described the suspect as a middle-aged man wearing blue jeans and a blue shirt.

“I think he was anglo and he had a rifle and I think he had a semi-automatic pistol,” Barton said. “Luckily no one appeared to be killed,” he added.

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) saw the shooter and described the scene as “bedlam.” In an interview, Brooks said he heard two or three shots before he recognized the danger. He was stepping up to home plate with a baseball bat in his hand. Then he heard a scream from Steve Scalise, who he saw go down.

Brooks said he ran behind the batting cage and watched Scalise drag himself towards the outfield. Brooks laid down in the dirt behind the batting cage with two or three others, but then he said he realized that if the shooter moved “he’d have a clear shot.” So he ran to the first place dugout and dove into it.

About a dozen people were there, including one of his staff members who had been shot in the leg. Brooks said he took off his belt and applied a tourniquet. Then he saw a man with a gun appear above him and feared it was a second shooter. Instead it was a Capitol Police officer shooting back. He and another officer moved towards the shooter, who ran towards home plate and was shot down. “They were both wounded,” he said.

Scalise, 51, a representative from Louisiana, is the third-highest ranking House Republican and has a round-the-clock Capitol Police detail.

President Trump issued this statement: “The vice president and I are aware of the shooting incident in Virginia and are monitoring developments closely. We are deeply saddened by this tragedy. Our thoughts and prayers are with the members of Congress, their staffs, Capitol Police, first responders, and all others affected.”

Trump later tweeted: “Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, a true friend and patriot, was badly injured but will fully recover. Our thoughts and prayers are with him.”

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) told reporters that Scalise was awake after the shooting.

“He was coherent the whole time,” Flake said. He added that a female member of the Capitol Police security detail was airlifted out and a staffer was taken by ambulance to the hospital.

Flake said that it took almost 10 minutes to take down the shooter. Eventually, when the Capitol Police secured the area, Flake grabbed Scalise’s phone and called his wife to tell her what happened.

Still wearing his baseball uniform — a red and white baseball shirt with “Republicans” plastered on it — Flake gave this account:

“We were doing batting practice near the end of the practice, and all of us were on the field, either in line to bat or fielding balls and all of sudden, we heard just a very loud pop, and it sounded like gunfire. It was just one, then a few seconds later it was a rally [of gunfire]. And it was clear, I just remember seeing , he had a rifle.”

Flake said he was firing “at anybody he could hit. I don’t know if anybody was targeted, but I just remember seeing some of the gravel bounce up as gunfire hit. And so a lot of us went into the dugout, because we thought the gunfire was coming near the third base dugout, just to get some cover.”

He said Williams’ aide was in right field when he was hit in the leg, and he ran to the dugout. “We had to apply pressure to that wound to try to keep the bleeding down.”

Flake said that at one point, “I looked up .. and saw the gunman. He had come around the back, near home plate and had a clear line of sight into the dugout and so, we had to get down again.” She said Scalise dragged himself off of the field, leaving a trail of blood.”

Flake said he didn’t hear the gunman say anything. He said one of the security officers used the dugout for cover as he fired at the gunman. At first, Flake said he didn’t know if the security officer was friend of foe. “And I kept yelling: ‘Are you friendly? Are you friendly?’ And he yelled back: ‘Yes.’ And then I could see him come around the dugout, but he was wounded. I’m not sure when he got shot. But he had a wound by his ankle.”

The congressman also said a second officer had been shot, a member of the Capitol police force. “I saw her afterwards, and saw her being taken to the helicopter,” Flake said.

Alexandria resident Owen Britton described the shooter as a middle aged man, perhaps between 55 and 65 years old, with white facial hair and wearing a blue polo shirt. Britton witnessed the man exchanging fire with police over a black SUV, before the man was apparently shot and then handcuffed while lying on the ground.

Katie Fillus of Alexandria had just gotten out of her car to walk her dogs in the park nearby when she said she heard “very, very loud popping sounds.”

“And I knew a baseball team was practicing, and everybody started screaming, ‘Hit the ground! Hit the ground!’ ”

She said she lay flat in the field as the gunshots grew louder — “like he was walking across the field toward all of us, the gunman, and I was screaming: ‘Can someone help me? I have my dogs and I can’t get behind anything.’ ”

Fillus said a police agent pulled out a gun and tried to shoot back. She was screaming, “ ‘Drop your weapon!’ And he shot her and she fell on the ground.

“She fell on the ground in front of us, and we were all just trying to lay as flat we could. And I belly crawled, dragging through the mud. I got to the car and I ducked under the car and I laid as close as I could under the car to hide from the person. Then the police seemed to come.”

Susanne Stratton, a 28-year-old Alexandria resident, was playing with her dog in the dog park next to the baseball field when the shooting began.

“We heard people yelling to get down. We saw people running, some into the dog park, some jumping over the fence,” she said. She said the people in the dog park immediately got down on the ground and pushed their dogs down, as well.

She said there was a burst of shots, then a brief pause, then more shots — she estimated about 20. “It must have been a semiautomatic,” she said.

Reba Winstead, 43, who lives on street adjacent to ballpark, said she heard about 30 shots fired in bursts and saw two people running down her street in exercise clothes.

“One of the bullets whizzed down our street. That’s when I jumped inside, when I heard the whiz,” she said. “It’s just scary, because you don’t hear shots fired in Alexandria very often.”

Charles Halloran, who lives in Del Ray about a block from the park, arrived at a YMCA at 7:30 a.m. next to the baseball field, to discover the scene unfolding.

“Bullet holes in the glass and people were shaking,” Halloran, a former congressional staffer, said in a telephone interview from inside the YMCA. Bullets went through the YMCA’s building and across the building into the pool.

Reports of violence are extremely rare in Del Ray, a quiet, upscale neighborhood known for its shops and art and craftsman-style homes.

Anger about his own colleagues being attacked was evident in the words of Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), who, suit in tie, stopped by the crime scene to pray, was viscerally angry about his own colleagues being attacked.

“America has been divided,” he said, “and the center of America is disappearing, and the violence is appearing in the streets, and it’s coming from the left.” King did indicate it was impossible to separate the hyperpartisan climate in Washington — especially people protesting President Trump — with Republican members of Congress being gunned down at a baseball scrimmage.

“The divisions within the country, people that can’t accept the results of the election that are determined to try to take this country down, take this organization down,” King said. “This city was filled up with demonstrations the day after the inauguration, where you couldn’t drive down the streets.”

Brooks said he believed the shooting was targeted.

“I can’t imagine him going here for Amy other reason Than to kill as many congressmen as they can,” he said. “We understand we’re high profile targets.”

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) was at the gym on Capitol Hill when he was informed of the shooting, according to two GOP lawmakers who saw him there. They said he immediately stopped his workout and headed out, guided by his own Capitol Police detail, which is always at his side. The lawmakers spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the speaker’s movements.

As Ryan left — and Capitol Police briefly told members about the shooting — the gym quickly quieted and members packed up their belongings to also head to their offices, the lawmakers said.

“Nobody knew what the hell was going on,” one of the Republicans said. “People just left.”

There was one notable departure from the normal level of protection inside the building: Three uniformed officers stood watch outside the first-floor office of House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.).

In Washington, heavily armed Capitol Police cleared the East Plaza in front of the Capitol. Tourists and visitors were redirected and only staff were being allowed.

[Duchess]

It's all over the news around here, nonstop. The shooter specifically targeted Republicans. I wonder if the GOP will have a little more to say than "my thoughts & prayers are with them".

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Yea I have been reading it all morning
The silence from the left is deafening

[Duchess]

Really. Odd, I just saw Bernie Sanders on the House floor address it. Adam Schiff & Nancy Pelosi have as well. Your article quotes Republicans only.

This is trump's 'merica.

[Duchess]

The shooter - James T. Hodgkinson



Scalise (left), congressional staffer Zachary Barth (center) and lobbyist Matt Mika (right) were all shot

[Duchess]

Jesus. There's been another mass shooting. This time in San Francisco.

[SIXFOOTERsez]

Yea just saw that one too.
Haven't seen any of the posts from the dems, I would have hoped they would get in there and not say something stupid

[Maggot]

A candlelight vigil is needed here.

[Midwest Spy]

I'm flabbergasted.

Congress has a baseball team?

[SIXFOOTERsez]

I'm flabbergasted.

Congress has a baseball team?

Who Knew?

[Duchess]

I'm flabbergasted.

Congress has a baseball team?

Some of them play b'ball too.

[Duchess]

A candlelight vigil is needed here.

[Midwest Spy]

I'm flabbergasted.

Congress has a baseball team?

Some of them play b'ball too.

I'd be a star on either of those teams.

[Blindgreed1]

Yea just saw that one too.
Haven't seen any of the posts from the dems, I would have hoped they would get in there and not say something stupid

One of them just blamed the GOP for this shooting because "The GOP is pushing people past their breaking point."